Apparently you cant read the title?

This is not "best mannered player from Sweden"

Anyways, Naniwa with 2 back to back ro8, thorzain didnt even win a match in the GSL did he?

revel8

United Kingdom3022 Posts

January 03 2013 18:19 GMT

#42

Thorzain was much more consistent in 2012 so he gets my vote over Naniwa. Sweden has some very strong players though.

Boucot

France15997 Posts

January 03 2013 18:19 GMT

#43

I don't know why Seiplo is in the poll over StarNaN who reached semifinals in DH Bucarest (not a great DH but still a better run than Seiplo's ones).

Serinox

Germany5224 Posts

January 03 2013 18:21 GMT

#44

On January 04 2013 03:17 .Wraath wrote:

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Apparently you cant read the title?

This is not "best mannered player from Sweden"

Anyways, Naniwa with 2 back to back ro8, thorzain didnt even win a match in the GSL did he?

He won against GuMiho in his Code S group.

Fus

Sweden1112 Posts

January 03 2013 18:22 GMT

#45

Naniwa is clearly the best, thorzain and sase are pretty equal i would say, they come in on 2nd place.

Mikah

Finland230 Posts

January 03 2013 18:22 GMT

#46

naniwa by far

DarkPlasmaBall

United States45923 Posts

January 03 2013 18:32 GMT

#47

For 2012, Naniwa's GSL Code S runs were the most amazing feats between these guys.

A close second to Naniwa is Thorzain. The other players don't come close to Naniwa and Thorzain.

Cauldron

Finland125 Posts

January 03 2013 18:34 GMT

#48

I would say Naniwa

Eee

Sweden2712 Posts

January 03 2013 18:35 GMT

#49

1. Naniwa
2. SaSe
3. ThorZaIN
4. SortOf
5. Seiplo

GoingGoingGone

Slovakia529 Posts

January 03 2013 18:37 GMT

#50

Naniwa had higher peaks, Thorzain is a lot more consistent. SaSe and SortOf are great as well, but I'd say they are ever so slightly behind the first two.

I'd say Naniwa - thanks to those GSL accomplishments - had a better year than Throzain, but by a very tiny margin.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States45923 Posts

January 03 2013 18:38 GMT

#51

On January 04 2013 03:35 Eee wrote:
1. Naniwa
2. SaSe
3. ThorZaIN
4. SortOf
5. Seiplo

While I love SaSe, and he's fantastic, I don't think he's accomplished nearly as much as Thorzain has in 2012, so I'd switch them. I agree with the rest of your list

Heartland

Sweden24603 Posts

January 03 2013 18:38 GMT

#52

I was thinking of writing something somewhere else but it might be better received in this thread. So pardon me for going somewhat OT here. It's been a good year for Swedish sc2 (and esports in general). The three kings have cemented their positions from 2011 with Thorzain and Naniwa constantly battling for the top spot. Sase is still looking for that big break-out victory but his amazing flashes of brilliant micro and his build-maker character is just saying that it's a matter of time rather than anything else until Sase takes something big. SortOf has tried to ascend the scene of the big three but hasn't quite made it after an impressive summer run.

Naniwa and Thorzain have slumped dreadfully both of them only to return and do very well. It's probably just going to continue to be like that. In the end I think Nani wins out over Thorzain for sheer power of his play. When Naniwa is good, he's one of the absolute best quite simply. It's just not taken him all the way through in 2012.

Meanwhile the Swedish middle class of players has been exchanged and renewed with Haypro and Jinro retiring. Sjow's disappearance into the shadows is part of the same trend. Morrow remains stabile in the middle. Starnan and Seiplo are the newcomers who have done quite well but are rather far from the absolute top.

It's been a great year for swedish players, and probably an even better year for Swedish production (ie, DH and WCS Europe).

Wrathsc2

United States2025 Posts

January 03 2013 18:43 GMT

#53

On January 04 2013 03:22 Fus wrote:
Naniwa is clearly the best, thorzain and sase are pretty equal i would say, they come in on 2nd place.

thorzain beat nani the last time they played...

Wrathsc2

United States2025 Posts

January 03 2013 18:45 GMT

#54

thorzain is the best for 2012

yeah naniwa got to ro8 gsk but he did that only on his pvp mostly and he chose to play in gsl knowing that he prob wouldnt get far.

thorzain has better results and beats him most of the time.

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

January 03 2013 18:48 GMT

#55

Thorzain. He won DH Stockholm, WCS Sweden, Asus ROG Invite at the GD Studio. Hell he even took out Naniwa at multiple tournaments.

Naniwa's GSL runs were done on his PvP. And pretty much outside of GSL he did horrible.

StarStruck

25339 Posts

January 03 2013 18:49 GMT

#56

On January 04 2013 03:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
For 2012, Naniwa's GSL Code S runs were the most amazing feats between these guys.

A close second to Naniwa is Thorzain. The other players don't come close to Naniwa and Thorzain.

Considering it was 2012 and not prior yeah Naniwa going back-to-back deep is quite something. If it were the early days, well hm... I guess some strats are better depending on the time, but the early games really didn't leave much to the imagination even though it's supposed to be the time we see all sorts of things, meh.

On January 04 2013 03:48 jmbthirteen wrote:
Thorzain. He won DH Stockholm, WCS Sweden, Asus ROG Invite at the GD Studio. Hell he even took out Naniwa at multiple tournaments.

Naniwa's GSL runs were done on his PvP. And pretty much outside of GSL he did horrible.

An eight man tournament and a national. -_- Albeit Sweden does have a handful of respectable players.

ThomasjServo

15244 Posts

January 03 2013 18:50 GMT

#57

On January 04 2013 03:15 Mortal wrote:

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The problem is SaSe is about as consistent as a high school romance. One week it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but next week there's shit flying around and scathing videos being posted on the internet. I'm a big SaSe fan, but he's not consistent enough to make nearly the dent he deserves.

That about sums it up, he is Code S class in a coin flip. I am a fairly big Sase fanboy and have missed many a bet backing my heart on that crazy Swede.

StarStruck

25339 Posts

January 03 2013 18:52 GMT

#58

On January 04 2013 03:50 ThomasjServo wrote:

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That about sums it up, he is Code S class in a coin flip. I am a fairly big Sase fanboy and have missed many a bet backing my heart on that crazy Swede.

He reminds me of Demu.

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

January 03 2013 18:54 GMT

#59

On January 04 2013 03:49 StarStruck wrote:

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An eight man tournament and a national. -_- Albeit Sweden does have a handful of respectable players.

the national that naniwa was supposed to win... but didnt. If Naniwa would have put up decent results outside of those two GSL runs then he would be the best Swedish player. But he didn't. He flamed out of quite a few tournaments. JYPs hand? And then he completely bombed out of GSL.

Winning some PvPs in code S doesnt make you the best player.