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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 00:03:07
December 27 2012 08:32 GMT
#61
Most likely will be good games:
TaeJa vs. Bogus
FanTaSy vs. Flash
Flash vs. Bogus
Zenio vs. Sacsri (Zenio vs. Zerg is usually >ep-ic!<... I highly recommend the two linked games if you have a hour.)
PuMa vs. FanTaSy (I know his game against sOs was disappointing, but this is PuMa vs. Terran.)
JYP vs. soO (I know it's PvZ, but it's JYPvZ. Not standard [Immortal Sentry/Infestor Brood Lord] PvZ.)
EffOrt vs. Jaehoon (If you like watching a hilariously bad ZvP player.)
sKyHigh vs. BaBy

Most likely will be good games if the series gets past game 4:
ThorZaIN vs. Classic
PuMa vs. Last
HerO vs. Rain

(Yes, I'm EG-TL biased in terms of good games, but I haven't seen enough of the other players to know if they're good.)

On December 27 2012 16:13 Adersick wrote:
Thorzain on Arkanoid in TvT... I anxiously await to see how this pans out. I don't care what statistics say- Thorzain has this! EG-TL fighting!

If it even gets to game 5... I see a possible sweep for EG-TL... HerO's PvP has been amazing lately... JYP has to play Mini, which if JYP scouts the proxy 2gate coming, he'll win, and he usually scouts... Watch the Jaedong vs. ZerO VOD if you have any doubts in his ZvZ... and It's TaeJa... How can you doubt TaeJa? Even if it is Bogus, man...
jeffvip
Profile Joined June 2011
211 Posts
December 27 2012 08:41 GMT
#62
My 2 favourite kespa player coliding, FvF

LOL (lots of Love)
Marine is Terran strongest unit but it might be Terran's biggest weakness. Bcos of Marine so OP, other Terran unit regrettably have to be weak..
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 08:47:54
December 27 2012 08:47 GMT
#63
On December 27 2012 15:04 geno wrote:
So uhhh.. this mirror thing could start to become a problem. Can't wait for the all-kill format next round, lol.

Phasing out maps like Antiga, Ohana and Tal'Darim Altar could also fix it in future non all-kill rounds.

I know Arkanoid and Caldeum are TvT and PvP prone respective, but those are newer maps and it'll be nice to see them stick around for longer. Plus TvTs and TvZs on Arkanoid are really really fun.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6295 Posts
December 27 2012 08:53 GMT
#64
Thorzain for neo-Assem!
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
December 27 2012 08:55 GMT
#65
I think mirror matches are fun as hell.Can't wait
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Ophe
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden388 Posts
December 27 2012 09:03 GMT
#66
Great games for entertainment. Fucking terrible for my FPL.
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
December 27 2012 09:13 GMT
#67
If SKT vs KT reaches ACE Im glad to see Rain winning over Flash.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
December 27 2012 09:20 GMT
#68
How in the world will we ever see a DRAW (decided by kespa) SC2 game?
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
December 27 2012 09:22 GMT
#69
On December 27 2012 18:13 elmerpogs wrote:
If SKT vs KT reaches ACE Im glad to see Rain winning over Flash.

Well you can dream... But seriously it will go to the ace match... and the god will take it ^^
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
December 27 2012 09:24 GMT
#70
On December 27 2012 18:22 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 18:13 elmerpogs wrote:
If SKT vs KT reaches ACE Im glad to see Rain winning over Flash.

Well you can dream... But seriously it will go to the ace match... and the god will take it ^^


Ever watched the SKT vs KT pregame? Flash was not impressed and GGed.Im sure there will be a rewind if ACE happens this 29th.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 27 2012 09:26 GMT
#71
God... Fantasy vs Flash then vs Bogus... KT will have a hard time for first play but i chear for them anyway !
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
December 27 2012 09:40 GMT
#72


Also watch this!
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
snorlax1
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore233 Posts
December 27 2012 09:46 GMT
#73
(T)Fantasy vs (T)Flash, (P)Rain vs (P)HerO, so looking forward to it
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 27 2012 09:58 GMT
#74
On December 27 2012 17:47 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 15:04 geno wrote:
So uhhh.. this mirror thing could start to become a problem. Can't wait for the all-kill format next round, lol.

Phasing out maps like Antiga, Ohana and Tal'Darim Altar could also fix it in future non all-kill rounds.

I know Arkanoid and Caldeum are TvT and PvP prone respective, but those are newer maps and it'll be nice to see them stick around for longer. Plus TvTs and TvZs on Arkanoid are really really fun.


Well, which maps would you place them with? WW and Abyssal aren't that great. Adding even more new maps would really tax the players in learning new maps. Remember that this current month is actually really good for players to learn new maps due to not many other tournaments going on. Start January, GSL will be starting and you will get foreign tournaments as well. Not sure if you want to throw in 3-4 new maps in Round 2. Maybe for Round 3, we can see some new maps.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
December 27 2012 10:13 GMT
#75
so many mirrors, go EGTL and KT !!
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
December 27 2012 10:28 GMT
#76
Those TvTs will be the most heartwarming thing for me.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
December 27 2012 10:40 GMT
#77
On December 27 2012 18:58 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 17:47 pdd wrote:
On December 27 2012 15:04 geno wrote:
So uhhh.. this mirror thing could start to become a problem. Can't wait for the all-kill format next round, lol.

Phasing out maps like Antiga, Ohana and Tal'Darim Altar could also fix it in future non all-kill rounds.

I know Arkanoid and Caldeum are TvT and PvP prone respective, but those are newer maps and it'll be nice to see them stick around for longer. Plus TvTs and TvZs on Arkanoid are really really fun.


Well, which maps would you place them with? WW and Abyssal aren't that great. Adding even more new maps would really tax the players in learning new maps. Remember that this current month is actually really good for players to learn new maps due to not many other tournaments going on. Start January, GSL will be starting and you will get foreign tournaments as well. Not sure if you want to throw in 3-4 new maps in Round 2. Maybe for Round 3, we can see some new maps.

WW, Daybreak (even though it's kinda outdated) and Abyssal are all probably better than Ohana and Tal'Darim IMO.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
ngri
Profile Joined October 2010
Luxembourg136 Posts
December 27 2012 10:42 GMT
#78
On December 27 2012 17:28 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 16:36 Hoonose wrote:
On December 27 2012 16:19 omnikaush wrote:
only about half of the matches are mirror matches (which is theoretically the correct proportion since there are 3 mirror matchups and 3 non-mirror matchups in starcraft). It just seems like there are a lot of mirror matches since the eg-stx matchup has all mirror matchups and that is listed first.


Statistically, there should be 1/3 mirror matchups, assuming that each race in a matchup with picked uniformly at random (you can see this since ZvP can come up ZP or PZ, making it twice as likely as a ZvZ, which can only happen as ZZ).

On the other hand, you can't assume that the races are picked uniformly at random, since, for example, teams are going to pick Terran on Arkanoid.



So far, it seems like

TDA is mainly Z (~90%)
Arkanoid is mainly T (~80%)
Caldeum is mainly P (~80%)


It feels like there's a bit of an issue with the maps, too many maps favor a certain race so hopefully they'll soon change the maps up a bit. I think also Ohana we see Protoss a lot (possibly Cloud Kingdom as well). Then Antiga mostly Terrans as well. I think people said somewhere Kespa doesn't mind changing the maps quickly, hopefully that's true.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 27 2012 10:44 GMT
#79
On December 27 2012 19:40 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 18:58 vthree wrote:
On December 27 2012 17:47 pdd wrote:
On December 27 2012 15:04 geno wrote:
So uhhh.. this mirror thing could start to become a problem. Can't wait for the all-kill format next round, lol.

Phasing out maps like Antiga, Ohana and Tal'Darim Altar could also fix it in future non all-kill rounds.

I know Arkanoid and Caldeum are TvT and PvP prone respective, but those are newer maps and it'll be nice to see them stick around for longer. Plus TvTs and TvZs on Arkanoid are really really fun.


Well, which maps would you place them with? WW and Abyssal aren't that great. Adding even more new maps would really tax the players in learning new maps. Remember that this current month is actually really good for players to learn new maps due to not many other tournaments going on. Start January, GSL will be starting and you will get foreign tournaments as well. Not sure if you want to throw in 3-4 new maps in Round 2. Maybe for Round 3, we can see some new maps.

WW, Daybreak (even though it's kinda outdated) and Abyssal are all probably better than Ohana and Tal'Darim IMO.


Daybreak > Tal'Darim, no question about it.
Abyssal City is too anti protoss, Ohana is is the better choice imo.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 27 2012 12:10 GMT
#80
On December 27 2012 19:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 19:40 pdd wrote:
On December 27 2012 18:58 vthree wrote:
On December 27 2012 17:47 pdd wrote:
On December 27 2012 15:04 geno wrote:
So uhhh.. this mirror thing could start to become a problem. Can't wait for the all-kill format next round, lol.

Phasing out maps like Antiga, Ohana and Tal'Darim Altar could also fix it in future non all-kill rounds.

I know Arkanoid and Caldeum are TvT and PvP prone respective, but those are newer maps and it'll be nice to see them stick around for longer. Plus TvTs and TvZs on Arkanoid are really really fun.


Well, which maps would you place them with? WW and Abyssal aren't that great. Adding even more new maps would really tax the players in learning new maps. Remember that this current month is actually really good for players to learn new maps due to not many other tournaments going on. Start January, GSL will be starting and you will get foreign tournaments as well. Not sure if you want to throw in 3-4 new maps in Round 2. Maybe for Round 3, we can see some new maps.

WW, Daybreak (even though it's kinda outdated) and Abyssal are all probably better than Ohana and Tal'Darim IMO.


Daybreak > Tal'Darim, no question about it.


Daybreak is the boringest map ever made that promotes cookie cutter builds leading into terrible deathball games in almost every matchup and I'd rather watch games on Steppes of War, let alone Tal Darim.

I'm down with replacing Ohana with Abyssal though.
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