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if sc2 was called space wars maybe about 20% of the player base would have even bought it. the only reason people bought it in the first place was because of sc1's legacy (they either played bw and wanted to see it's successor, or didn't play bw and heard about it online or through a friend who did play bw)
Obviously. Wasn't really the point I was making.
More that they are trying so hard with those 2 games to differentiate from the previous when it isn't really needed.
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On December 27 2012 12:12 iPAndi wrote: And for the people telling other people to just play broodwar:
3. Broodwar has a color error on w7 and w8. Theres a workaround though.
Could you elaborate on this workaround please? I recently started playing on my Windows 7 machine and am getting weird color errors.
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On December 27 2012 13:15 Kal_rA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 12:54 Sinensis wrote:On December 27 2012 12:12 iPAndi wrote: And for the people telling other people to just play broodwar:
1. Broodwar wont work on a Mac. 2. Broodwar will crash and make your computer NOT RESPOND after a random interval on Windows 7 and Windows 8 3. Broodwar has a color error on w7 and w8. Theres a workaround though. 4. Broodwar public serverds filled with hackers 5. You have to go into iccup to play a decent match (or fish)
That said, if Blizzard decided to make an HD version of SCBW with bnet2, and proper OS support, i would jump in, no questions asked.
1. Broodwar does work on Mac. ICCUP launcher does not. I thought bw was unsupported by lion.. Edit wrong link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=246868#10Edit 2: skimmed through the rest of the thread.. guess its 'technically' possible, but kinda seems like a pain. bootcamp is much easier, but xp is no longer supported with lion either... lolllll thanks apple
Forgot about that. I've got BW installed on an old macbook but that must be an old Apple OS.
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On December 27 2012 13:24 FLuE wrote:Show nested quote +if sc2 was called space wars maybe about 20% of the player base would have even bought it. the only reason people bought it in the first place was because of sc1's legacy (they either played bw and wanted to see it's successor, or didn't play bw and heard about it online or through a friend who did play bw) Obviously. Wasn't really the point I was making. More that they are trying so hard with those 2 games to differentiate from the previous when it isn't really needed. People wouldn't have bought it if it was effectively the same game.
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On December 27 2012 13:26 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:15 Kal_rA wrote:On December 27 2012 12:54 Sinensis wrote:On December 27 2012 12:12 iPAndi wrote: And for the people telling other people to just play broodwar:
1. Broodwar wont work on a Mac. 2. Broodwar will crash and make your computer NOT RESPOND after a random interval on Windows 7 and Windows 8 3. Broodwar has a color error on w7 and w8. Theres a workaround though. 4. Broodwar public serverds filled with hackers 5. You have to go into iccup to play a decent match (or fish)
That said, if Blizzard decided to make an HD version of SCBW with bnet2, and proper OS support, i would jump in, no questions asked.
1. Broodwar does work on Mac. ICCUP launcher does not. I thought bw was unsupported by lion.. Edit wrong link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=246868#10Edit 2: skimmed through the rest of the thread.. guess its 'technically' possible, but kinda seems like a pain. bootcamp is much easier, but xp is no longer supported with lion either... lolllll thanks apple Forgot about that. I've got BW installed on an old macbook but that must be an old Apple OS. As this link clearly suggests, BW does not install on an OS higher than 10.6.8. Technically speaking, anyone with an updated system = no bw. Unless you resort to virtualization or bootcamp, which is a hassle just to get a game working. That said, that's my current setup.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/4253967692
Mac System Requirements 16 MB RAM Mac OS X 10.3.9 to OS X 10.6.8 PowerMac or compatible 2X CD-ROM drive 256 color, 640x480 display or better
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People wouldn't have bought it if it was effectively the same game.
How do you explain the COD franchise?
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On December 27 2012 13:28 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:24 FLuE wrote:if sc2 was called space wars maybe about 20% of the player base would have even bought it. the only reason people bought it in the first place was because of sc1's legacy (they either played bw and wanted to see it's successor, or didn't play bw and heard about it online or through a friend who did play bw) Obviously. Wasn't really the point I was making. More that they are trying so hard with those 2 games to differentiate from the previous when it isn't really needed. People wouldn't have bought it if it was effectively the same game.
Dota --> Dota2
Basically the same game, people are still getting hyped for it.
I honestly think they should have just remade SC:BW with better graphics.
This thread makes me actually want to get on SC2 and play it again, in the BW mod of course.
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On December 27 2012 13:25 Coppermantis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 12:12 iPAndi wrote: And for the people telling other people to just play broodwar:
3. Broodwar has a color error on w7 and w8. Theres a workaround though.
Could you elaborate on this workaround please? I recently started playing on my Windows 7 machine and am getting weird color errors. Here's a thread that has a solution to the color problem.
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soooooo this is amazing. No need for HOTS anymore. Way rather play old school bw sc2 styles
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On December 27 2012 13:28 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:24 FLuE wrote:if sc2 was called space wars maybe about 20% of the player base would have even bought it. the only reason people bought it in the first place was because of sc1's legacy (they either played bw and wanted to see it's successor, or didn't play bw and heard about it online or through a friend who did play bw) Obviously. Wasn't really the point I was making. More that they are trying so hard with those 2 games to differentiate from the previous when it isn't really needed. People wouldn't have bought it if it was effectively the same game.
call of duty? dota? madden?
the only reason people bought sc2 in the first place was because of the name (same reason i bought diablo 3 having never played d1 or d2. boy did i regret that...)
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Is it called sc2bw rebalanced on eu?
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On December 27 2012 13:32 beamer159 wrote:Here's a thread that has a solution to the color problem.
Thanks.
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On December 27 2012 13:28 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:24 FLuE wrote:if sc2 was called space wars maybe about 20% of the player base would have even bought it. the only reason people bought it in the first place was because of sc1's legacy (they either played bw and wanted to see it's successor, or didn't play bw and heard about it online or through a friend who did play bw) Obviously. Wasn't really the point I was making. More that they are trying so hard with those 2 games to differentiate from the previous when it isn't really needed. People wouldn't have bought it if it was effectively the same game.
proof?
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On December 27 2012 14:22 L0L wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:28 Zenbrez wrote:On December 27 2012 13:24 FLuE wrote:if sc2 was called space wars maybe about 20% of the player base would have even bought it. the only reason people bought it in the first place was because of sc1's legacy (they either played bw and wanted to see it's successor, or didn't play bw and heard about it online or through a friend who did play bw) Obviously. Wasn't really the point I was making. More that they are trying so hard with those 2 games to differentiate from the previous when it isn't really needed. People wouldn't have bought it if it was effectively the same game. proof? "This game you all loved, and have been waiting for the sequal for a decade? Well we're about done making it, AND IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME THING!!!!!! :D:D:D:D"
Dat hype.
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On December 27 2012 14:26 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 14:22 L0L wrote:On December 27 2012 13:28 Zenbrez wrote:On December 27 2012 13:24 FLuE wrote:if sc2 was called space wars maybe about 20% of the player base would have even bought it. the only reason people bought it in the first place was because of sc1's legacy (they either played bw and wanted to see it's successor, or didn't play bw and heard about it online or through a friend who did play bw) Obviously. Wasn't really the point I was making. More that they are trying so hard with those 2 games to differentiate from the previous when it isn't really needed. People wouldn't have bought it if it was effectively the same game. proof? "This game you all loved, and have been waiting for the sequal for a decade? Well we're about done making it, AND IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME THING!!!!!! :D:D:D:D" Dat hype.
"the game you all loved. now featuring rocks, colossus, infestors, roaches, 200/200 deathballs and many more!"
sounds much better
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On December 27 2012 13:58 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:28 Zenbrez wrote:On December 27 2012 13:24 FLuE wrote:if sc2 was called space wars maybe about 20% of the player base would have even bought it. the only reason people bought it in the first place was because of sc1's legacy (they either played bw and wanted to see it's successor, or didn't play bw and heard about it online or through a friend who did play bw) Obviously. Wasn't really the point I was making. More that they are trying so hard with those 2 games to differentiate from the previous when it isn't really needed. People wouldn't have bought it if it was effectively the same game. call of duty? dota? madden? the only reason people bought sc2 in the first place was because of the name (same reason i bought diablo 3 having never played d1 or d2. boy did i regret that...)
It's not just the name man. Blizzard loyalists buy the company's latest game all the time.
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On December 27 2012 13:58 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:28 Zenbrez wrote:On December 27 2012 13:24 FLuE wrote:if sc2 was called space wars maybe about 20% of the player base would have even bought it. the only reason people bought it in the first place was because of sc1's legacy (they either played bw and wanted to see it's successor, or didn't play bw and heard about it online or through a friend who did play bw) Obviously. Wasn't really the point I was making. More that they are trying so hard with those 2 games to differentiate from the previous when it isn't really needed. People wouldn't have bought it if it was effectively the same game. call of duty? dota? madden? the only reason people bought sc2 in the first place was because of the name (same reason i bought diablo 3 having never played d1 or d2. boy did i regret that...) Counter-Strike from like 1.3 to 1.6. Some different game mechanics but still held the same core pretty much. Then look what happened when Valve(?) started to release new different versions like CS:CZ and CSS. Fucking failed hard because they wanted to make their own new Counter-Strike so they broke away from the core of CS, the things that made CS what it is. Just like how the sc2 team did when they made sc2.
On December 27 2012 14:26 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 14:22 L0L wrote:On December 27 2012 13:28 Zenbrez wrote:On December 27 2012 13:24 FLuE wrote:if sc2 was called space wars maybe about 20% of the player base would have even bought it. the only reason people bought it in the first place was because of sc1's legacy (they either played bw and wanted to see it's successor, or didn't play bw and heard about it online or through a friend who did play bw) Obviously. Wasn't really the point I was making. More that they are trying so hard with those 2 games to differentiate from the previous when it isn't really needed. People wouldn't have bought it if it was effectively the same game. proof? "This game you all loved, and have been waiting for the sequal for a decade? Well we're about done making it, AND IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME THING!!!!!! :D:D:D:D" Dat hype.
I don't get this? Care to explain dota 2 then? If they would have gone the route of Valve and dota 2 we would have gotten the game we all loved, updated graphics to fit todays standard (1080p), some improvements on some of the mechanics and improved lobby features and social networking stuff (which is something blizzard managed to do worse in sc2 than sc1 and wc3). While doing this they would have gotten the whole existing playerbase plus bring in people who played sc1 in their child hood and I'm pretty sure the same people that got into sc2 by the release hype would have gotten into Starcraft from Brood War 2 just as easy. I would be pretty hyped for a Brood War 2.
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