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Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
December 17 2012 15:23 GMT
#21
Oh, I didn't except this. It's strange to join a team and retire soon afterwards.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
December 17 2012 15:24 GMT
#22
Bosung T____T

good luck!
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 15:28:20
December 17 2012 15:25 GMT
#23
On December 18 2012 00:17 zerious wrote:
Anyone else think Bisu will be next?


I actually expected a lot more of the BW guard of players to quit instead of switching to SC2. If someone told me I wasn't allowed to make a living off of playing a game I did for as long as a lot of those guys did and switch to a new game. I'd give them the finger.

On December 18 2012 00:20 a176 wrote:
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On December 18 2012 00:17 zerious wrote:
Anyone else think Bisu will be next?


doubt it. bisu is the marketing face of skt1.


Don't put BunkiE out of a job please. Bisu will retire when he wants. I'm sure he'll keep practicing in the meantime to try and improve.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
December 17 2012 16:02 GMT
#24
Good luck Sea, you were one of the coolest progamers !


On December 18 2012 00:25 StarStruck wrote:
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On December 18 2012 00:17 zerious wrote:
Anyone else think Bisu will be next?


I actually expected a lot more of the BW guard of players to quit instead of switching to SC2. If someone told me I wasn't allowed to make a living off of playing a game I did for as long as a lot of those guys did and switch to a new game. I'd give them the finger.


Maybe players are just waiting for their contracts to end. When you have a huge contract like Bisu, it's definitely wiser to wait for the contract to end. I can imagine that after defeating Flash during the PL finals in April he may have got a decent salary raise.
I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to retire when his contract ends. I would be disappointed not to see him destroy everyone at SC2 though
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Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
December 17 2012 16:06 GMT
#25
On December 18 2012 00:09 Caihead wrote:
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On December 18 2012 00:07 PulseKane wrote:
On December 18 2012 00:05 Caihead wrote:
On December 18 2012 00:02 PulseKane wrote:
gotta wonder how he's gonna make a living after this.

would a progamer have savings or did he have education that he can go find a job with? or will he go and get one now if he didn't already?


From what I've seen, most progamers either return to esports in some capacity with their name recognition, or do work that doesn't require a degree. Rarely are people able to return to fully finish their academic degrees.


ooo okay, thanks! it's a shame though, i think getting an education is pretty important in its own right. not just for working


Alot of progamers don't even have a high school diploma, it's extremely hard to reintegrate into an academic career because they spent that high school period being a progamer.

While I've argued that people in university can do what they want, it does seem that a lot of Korean progamers are too young to just drop out of school like that. Are there any mainstream sports in which people go pro out of high school?
BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
December 17 2012 16:07 GMT
#26
Honestly really surprising. He /just/ signed with Liquid.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 17 2012 16:11 GMT
#27
To bad, really liked Sea and hoped to see him play some more. Wishing him the best !
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 17 2012 16:12 GMT
#28
Wish him luck with his future!
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 17 2012 16:14 GMT
#29
On December 18 2012 01:06 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 00:09 Caihead wrote:
On December 18 2012 00:07 PulseKane wrote:
On December 18 2012 00:05 Caihead wrote:
On December 18 2012 00:02 PulseKane wrote:
gotta wonder how he's gonna make a living after this.

would a progamer have savings or did he have education that he can go find a job with? or will he go and get one now if he didn't already?


From what I've seen, most progamers either return to esports in some capacity with their name recognition, or do work that doesn't require a degree. Rarely are people able to return to fully finish their academic degrees.


ooo okay, thanks! it's a shame though, i think getting an education is pretty important in its own right. not just for working


Alot of progamers don't even have a high school diploma, it's extremely hard to reintegrate into an academic career because they spent that high school period being a progamer.

While I've argued that people in university can do what they want, it does seem that a lot of Korean progamers are too young to just drop out of school like that. Are there any mainstream sports in which people go pro out of high school?


The NBA, before the 'one and done' rule. A lot of football (futbol) players enter football academies instead of traditional schools.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
December 17 2012 16:15 GMT
#30
Good bye, Sea. I loved all of your great games.
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
December 17 2012 16:15 GMT
#31
This is so sad.

As I said in the other thread. Sea always had a special place in my hart: at first I hated him because he beat all my favorite players in PL. Then I started loving him for his skill and his openness towards the community.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
December 17 2012 16:19 GMT
#32
Disappointing, but understandable. Good for Nazgul to accept Sea's decision. All the best for both parties.
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 16:24:08
December 17 2012 16:23 GMT
#33
Now I'm sad indeed, first Horang2 now Sea, next week Bisu, Jangbi, Leta? I can just point at anybody.

I wonder would he ever retire if he still played BW? I don't want to speculate about this, cause only time will tell, but so far everything is exactly the way I was afraid it would be.
di4m0nd
Profile Joined June 2010
United States297 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 16:27:48
December 17 2012 16:27 GMT
#34
Sad to see Sea leave he was one of my fav BW players..

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ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
December 17 2012 16:27 GMT
#35
Horang2 and now Sea? SECOND PLAYER ON MY FPL TEAM TO RETIRE ugh lol. Will miss him though, I was hoping to see him take off in SC2 but I guess it wasn't for him.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 16:29:21
December 17 2012 16:28 GMT
#36
On December 18 2012 01:06 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 00:09 Caihead wrote:
On December 18 2012 00:07 PulseKane wrote:
On December 18 2012 00:05 Caihead wrote:
On December 18 2012 00:02 PulseKane wrote:
gotta wonder how he's gonna make a living after this.

would a progamer have savings or did he have education that he can go find a job with? or will he go and get one now if he didn't already?


From what I've seen, most progamers either return to esports in some capacity with their name recognition, or do work that doesn't require a degree. Rarely are people able to return to fully finish their academic degrees.


ooo okay, thanks! it's a shame though, i think getting an education is pretty important in its own right. not just for working


Alot of progamers don't even have a high school diploma, it's extremely hard to reintegrate into an academic career because they spent that high school period being a progamer.

While I've argued that people in university can do what they want, it does seem that a lot of Korean progamers are too young to just drop out of school like that. Are there any mainstream sports in which people go pro out of high school?


Are you sure that's the question you wanted to ask? A lot of them did drop out of school when they got in. There are only a few players I know of that decided to continue their studies while being apart of KeSPA one of them being Jaedong. As for going pro in mainstream sports right out of high school. Guess it depends on what you call a mainstream sport. I don't consider SC2 to be a mainstream sport, but there are many sports where kids do go pro right out of high school. If you want to make it to something like the NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA, etc. well I think you know by now that their developmental systems are different and they draft prospects.

Development process is a bit different in a game like SC2. We want players who are fresh and young. If you're lets say a gymnast they get spotted at a very tender age as well for comparison.

On December 18 2012 01:27 ApBuLLet wrote:
Horang2 and now Sea? SECOND PLAYER ON MY FPL TEAM TO RETIRE ugh lol. Will miss him though, I was hoping to see him take off in SC2 but I guess it wasn't for him.


All good bro. Half my team did the same thing. =)
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
December 17 2012 16:32 GMT
#37
Bo Sung noooooooooooooo
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44322 Posts
December 17 2012 16:33 GMT
#38
I was thinking about retiring around a month ago.


??? How long has Sea been on TL?
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 16:35:52
December 17 2012 16:34 GMT
#39
On December 18 2012 01:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
I was thinking about retiring around a month ago.


??? How long has Sea been on TL?

Not that long. Several months tops. Oct. 4th was the official announcement apparently, so I was about right.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 16:38:22
December 17 2012 16:37 GMT
#40
On December 18 2012 01:34 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 01:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I was thinking about retiring around a month ago.


??? How long has Sea been on TL?

Not that long. Several months tops.


Hmm.

According to Liquipedia:

On October 4, Team Liquid announced that Sea had joined their team.

~ http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sea

So he joined two months ago, wanted to retire after 1 month of being a SC2 pro-gamer, and then retired after another month.

That's pretty sad. At least TL gave him a chance.

EDIT: You just ninja'd me apparently lol
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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