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On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good.
rofl no.
People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol.
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On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol.
Yea cuz Select didn't switch to Dota because it's easier, right?
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Good luck Inori and why is this hole thing just war between moba and sc2? If we ever wanna get e-sports big we need to work together, but yeah Best of luck Inori i am going to miss you.
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On November 24 2012 05:40 MVega wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:29 Mazzi wrote:On November 24 2012 05:25 MVega wrote:
Never understood how anybody that could play SC2 at a high level, or brood war, could ever switch to LoL/Dota. Those games are much slower paced and have such a low skill ceiling. Not hating either, I have nothing against those games, I just don't understand why they'd ever be popular amongst former pro-gamers from RTS/FPS games. Also don't really understand why when someone who nobody has heard about in the last several months decides to play a different game it has to be posted in SC2 General or why it has to always turn into some SC2 vs Moba discussion.
Or why people who seem to think SC2 is "dead" continue to read the SC2 forum and post in it. LoL is not slow paced at all, its actually much faster than building a deathball in base all game n a moving I disagree. LoL speeds up in the end game, but the vast majority of it is about as slow as an ancient tortoise marching through peanut butter.
which is almost the exact same as sc2, over half the games nothing happens in the first 15 minutes.
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well... good luck inori !
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On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol.
Not really, you're comparing apples to oranges. LoL is huge on teamwork which is an issue for overall gameplay, sc2 mechanics are infinitely harder, comparing team games to individual games are silly.
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On November 24 2012 06:28 Ace.Xile wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:40 MVega wrote:On November 24 2012 05:29 Mazzi wrote:On November 24 2012 05:25 MVega wrote:
Never understood how anybody that could play SC2 at a high level, or brood war, could ever switch to LoL/Dota. Those games are much slower paced and have such a low skill ceiling. Not hating either, I have nothing against those games, I just don't understand why they'd ever be popular amongst former pro-gamers from RTS/FPS games. Also don't really understand why when someone who nobody has heard about in the last several months decides to play a different game it has to be posted in SC2 General or why it has to always turn into some SC2 vs Moba discussion.
Or why people who seem to think SC2 is "dead" continue to read the SC2 forum and post in it. LoL is not slow paced at all, its actually much faster than building a deathball in base all game n a moving I disagree. LoL speeds up in the end game, but the vast majority of it is about as slow as an ancient tortoise marching through peanut butter. which is almost the exact same as sc2, over half the games nothing happens in the first 15 minutes.
LoL games on average last 40-60 minutes while Sc2 games on average last 15-25 minutes bro
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On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol.
I've been playing RTS and MOBAs almost my whole life. Even SC2, as a watered down version of BW is "harder" than DOTA2 or HON or LoL.
You can come to this conclusion without even playing the games. Just look at how many SC2/BW players go on to other competitive scenes compared to the reverse flow. You will never see a professional DOTA/LoL player switching over to SC2 because of the mechanical difficulty. Both genres take a good amount of skill and ofc require slightly different categories of skill but SC2 has a higher threshold of required skill for multitasking, mouse precision, accuracy and just overall APM.
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On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol.
Whatever you say. People can have different opinions, if you don't like SC2, why even post in a SC2 forum? The only thing you'll do, is stir up a useless discussion.
Sorry, let me translate: "rofl lol nah you wrong, rofl"
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@SupLilSon: Uhh I've been playng HoN for 3 years before quitting..
Well BW to me has always been the hardest game.
But Sc2 is a joke by comparison. MOBA at least requires some form of competition though. And teamwork, which brings on a whole new element to competitive gaming. Also, it's fun.
On November 24 2012 06:21 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol. Yea cuz Select didn't switch to Dota because it's easier, right?
Yeah have you ever thought that maybe MOBA might be more fun than SC2 to the majority of the people, hence the switching? lol wtf?
LoL is the biggest game in Korea...whereas Sc2 is doing poorly...who would even want to waste their time? Difficulty aside, fun factor is more important...and it shows in the numbers of CASUAL players/viewers (remember BW when most viewers weren't even competitive gamers, but rather people of all demographics? Even old people were watching that shit). Professional Sc2 is not going to get you far in the long term, hell even short term. Might as well jump the sinking ship while you're at it.
On November 24 2012 06:32 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol. Whatever you say. People can have different opinions, if you don't like SC2, why even post in a SC2 forum? The only thing you'll do, is stir up a useless discussion. Sorry, let me translate: "rofl lol nah you wrong, rofl"
I post where I want. Besides, it's fun to see the downfall of a shitty, undeserved game.
User was warned for this post
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well... chalk up another one i guess
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On November 24 2012 06:33 SlowBullets wrote:@SupLilSon: Uhh I've been playng HoN for 3 years before quitting.. Well BW to me has always been the hardest game. But Sc2 is a joke by comparison. MOBA at least requires some form of competition though. And teamwork, which brings on a whole new element to competitive gaming. Also, it's fun. Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 06:21 ZAiNs wrote:On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol. Yea cuz Select didn't switch to Dota because it's easier, right? Yeah have you ever thought that maybe MOBA might be more fun than SC2 to the majority of the people, hence the switching? lol wtf? LoL is the biggest game in Korea...whereas Sc2 is doing poorly...who would even want to waste their time? Difficulty aside, fun factor is more important...and it shows in the numbers of CASUAL players/viewers (remember BW when most viewers weren't even competitive gamers, but rather people of all demographics? Even old people were watching that shit). Professional Sc2 is not going to get you far in the long term, hell even short term. Might as well jump the sinking ship while you're at it. Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 06:32 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol. Whatever you say. People can have different opinions, if you don't like SC2, why even post in a SC2 forum? The only thing you'll do, is stir up a useless discussion. Sorry, let me translate: "rofl lol nah you wrong, rofl" I post where I want. Besides, it's fun to see the downfall of a shitty, undeserved game.
I played DOTA for a solid 6 years, switched to HON from it's release until DOTA2 came out. I've played more MOBA than many people out there and believe me, I agree with you about it being much more fun than SC2. I can hardly log onto SC2 anymore unless my 1 friend begs me to play 2v2 with him... But I still believe SC2 takes more overall skill. I know a good amount of people who are competent MOBA players and gave up SC2 trying to progress through bronze-gold league.
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Ok guys, we get it. Starcraft is hardcore and stressful, LoL is casual and fun. Can we move on?
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good luck to Inori, he's pretty good, I hope he does well in LoL even tho i don't really follow :/
GLGL :D
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On November 24 2012 06:06 testthewest wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:58 Ruscour wrote:On November 24 2012 05:54 zefreak wrote:
I peeked in this thread to see how big of a LoL - SC2 shitfest it is and was not disappointed.
You and me both. People need to understand that this is a player who has not been successful in SC2 moving on to try something else in his progaming career. Sure, you've heard of Inori and he went okay for a while, but now he's only in Korea and he's never won a match at GOMTV. When a currently successful player switches, then you have permission to shit yourselves. No, people have to understand, that they don't really know any of the players. They can't know the exact reasons and it doesn't matter. Even if MVP switches, it should not affect you. Play whatever you like best, watch whatever esport entertains you and be a happy man. Cut these shitstorms out.
Pretty much yeah. In general for me I prefer to watch StarCraft 2, and after that it's Marvel/Street Fighter. I don't find any enjoyment in watching LoL but I respect that people do and good for them. When I see this kind of LoL vs SC2 shitstorm from fans of both I honestly want nothing to do with either. The silly arguing of the fans over which game is "better" makes me enjoy the eSports themselves a bit less.
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On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol.
Hmmmm so all the unsuccessful sc2 players who lacked the skill to keep up just decided to switch to LoL because it is harder? Yeah right. If SC2 was easier you would see LoL players switching.
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On November 24 2012 07:17 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol. Hmmmm so all the unsuccessful sc2 players who lacked the skill to keep up just decided to switch to LoL because it is harder? Yeah right. If SC2 was easier you would see LoL players switching.
It's harder (but it's really not hard in the grand scheme of things) , but still fun, which in the end is why you keep playing the game. Do you really think people switch games for the sole purpose of easiness? Fun factor is important too, and it clearly shows by the fan base at the moment. Hell, even the PC cafe I went to lately in NY had LoL players EVERYWHERE.
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On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol.
I think you under estimate the skill involved in checkers =P
To be honest, chess to checkers is a great example. Chess is extremely formulaic in the beginning, with more freedom and quicker thinking being the key to the end game. Checkers is a constant series of making more strategic moves, focusing on simple goals.
I still say Tennis vs Soccer is a better example. You can't win in Soccer by yourself, and tennis is also extremely hard to master. They're both hard in their own ways.
I would say, and most people I've met, say that LoL is much easier on a personal level. To be professionally good is another matter entirely, since you have to have teamwork. However, on average, SC is harder on an individual case by case basis.
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On November 23 2012 18:31 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 18:20 JonIrenicus wrote:
He did the best choice. . He would be a fool not to go full time on lol.
Sc2 is fucked up, and LoL is constantly growing.
This is the why no one can criticize also Destiny for the choice he made. It's not like Destiny is a professional in LoL or anything, I heard his stream numbers are quite bad nowadays as well ;o
over 2k, not bad considering he has relatively low elo atm
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On November 24 2012 07:17 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 06:16 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:50 ACrow wrote:On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US. Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football. Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good. rofl no. People underestimate the skill level in MOBAs...it is definitely harder than SC2, lol. Hmmmm so all the unsuccessful sc2 players who lacked the skill to keep up just decided to switch to LoL because it is harder? Yeah right. If SC2 was easier you would see LoL players switching.
Coca was one of the best up and coming zergs in korea, he switched to LoL because more money and audience, good players are switching and less good ones, fact is mobas are huge and sc2 has a smaller audience and so less money, with those elements in mind it's understandable why so many players are switching
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