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Stop derailing this thread, get back on topic.
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
November 23 2012 20:25 GMT
#261
Never understood how anybody that could play SC2 at a high level, or brood war, could ever switch to LoL/Dota. Those games are much slower paced and have such a low skill ceiling. Not hating either, I have nothing against those games, I just don't understand why they'd ever be popular amongst former pro-gamers from RTS/FPS games. Also don't really understand why when someone who nobody has heard about in the last several months decides to play a different game it has to be posted in SC2 General or why it has to always turn into some SC2 vs Moba discussion.

Or why people who seem to think SC2 is "dead" continue to read the SC2 forum and post in it.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
November 23 2012 20:28 GMT
#262
NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Inori...you were one of my favorite Protoss...why, why...-curls up to cry-
"I wonder if there is a league below copper? If so, I would like to inhabit it." -TotalBiscuit "In the event of a sudden change in cabin pressure, ROOF FLIES OFF!" -George Carlin <3 HerO <3 Kiwikaki <3 MKP
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
November 23 2012 20:28 GMT
#263
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US.
Mazzi
Profile Joined August 2012
440 Posts
November 23 2012 20:29 GMT
#264
On November 24 2012 05:25 MVega wrote:
Never understood how anybody that could play SC2 at a high level, or brood war, could ever switch to LoL/Dota. Those games are much slower paced and have such a low skill ceiling. Not hating either, I have nothing against those games, I just don't understand why they'd ever be popular amongst former pro-gamers from RTS/FPS games. Also don't really understand why when someone who nobody has heard about in the last several months decides to play a different game it has to be posted in SC2 General or why it has to always turn into some SC2 vs Moba discussion.

Or why people who seem to think SC2 is "dead" continue to read the SC2 forum and post in it.

LoL is not slow paced at all, its actually much faster than building a deathball in base all game n a moving
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
November 23 2012 20:31 GMT
#265
Yeah I don't know why pros think that switching to LoL is going to find them instant success or something. Same story of powerhouses snuffing out underdogs in both LoL and SC2.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
November 23 2012 20:32 GMT
#266
On November 24 2012 05:29 Mazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 05:25 MVega wrote:
Never understood how anybody that could play SC2 at a high level, or brood war, could ever switch to LoL/Dota. Those games are much slower paced and have such a low skill ceiling. Not hating either, I have nothing against those games, I just don't understand why they'd ever be popular amongst former pro-gamers from RTS/FPS games. Also don't really understand why when someone who nobody has heard about in the last several months decides to play a different game it has to be posted in SC2 General or why it has to always turn into some SC2 vs Moba discussion.

Or why people who seem to think SC2 is "dead" continue to read the SC2 forum and post in it.

LoL is not slow paced at all, its actually much faster than building a deathball in base all game n a moving


.. Actually most matches finish within 10-25 min. LoL laning phase is boring as hell to watch just because of how slow and monotonous it can get.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
murkk
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada154 Posts
November 23 2012 20:32 GMT
#267
SC2 has more money per player. People who think it's easy climbing to the top of LoL are deceiving themselves. The idea that easier mechanics means less skill is needed is false. If all you had to do was move guys around the screen in SC2, better players with more APM would have better positioning and would win most of the time.

That being said, why stick around in a game you will never do well in. There are a ton of players who aren't have fun and don't wish to play competitively... why not move on? Good luck to him.
Quasimoto3000
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States471 Posts
November 23 2012 20:37 GMT
#268
Its at least a little comfortable to know that you decide to switch to lol once you realize that your skill is less than others.
Every sunday a nun lays from my gunplay
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
November 23 2012 20:38 GMT
#269
On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US.


Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football.
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
November 23 2012 20:40 GMT
#270
On November 24 2012 05:29 Mazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 05:25 MVega wrote:
Never understood how anybody that could play SC2 at a high level, or brood war, could ever switch to LoL/Dota. Those games are much slower paced and have such a low skill ceiling. Not hating either, I have nothing against those games, I just don't understand why they'd ever be popular amongst former pro-gamers from RTS/FPS games. Also don't really understand why when someone who nobody has heard about in the last several months decides to play a different game it has to be posted in SC2 General or why it has to always turn into some SC2 vs Moba discussion.

Or why people who seem to think SC2 is "dead" continue to read the SC2 forum and post in it.

LoL is not slow paced at all, its actually much faster than building a deathball in base all game n a moving


I disagree. LoL speeds up in the end game, but the vast majority of it is about as slow as an ancient tortoise marching through peanut butter.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
Nacht1331
Profile Joined November 2011
United States15 Posts
November 23 2012 20:46 GMT
#271
On November 24 2012 04:03 magnaflow wrote:
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On November 24 2012 03:40 lolspoon wrote:
On November 23 2012 18:31 Dodgin wrote:
On November 23 2012 18:20 JonIrenicus wrote:
He did the best choice. . He would be a fool not to go full time on lol.

Sc2 is fucked up, and LoL is constantly growing.

This is the why no one can criticize also Destiny for the choice he made.


It's not like Destiny is a professional in LoL or anything, I heard his stream numbers are quite bad nowadays as well ;o


1000-3000 is still better than most of people ;-).



He is still drawing more viwers then most SC2 players. And when Dendi or Puppey are streaming DOTA2 the are anyhere from 5-10K I haven't seen a SC2 streamer bring in more the 3k for quite sime time


Big names, like Polt, bring in quite a few off of pure play. If you want to discuss starcraft bringing in views in general, day[9] brings in numbers on anything he plays. Most koreans either stream anonymously and randomly, or stream a lot, but don't make fun commentaries. They don't stream for the sake of entertaining their viewers as much as other streamers do, making them bad streamers, meaning they have less views.

I haven't watched a LoL streamer, so I have no idea if they're any different, but considering LoL has a much larger community, I would bet the numbers are about the same percentage wise.
Alas TSL, we knew the well.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 23 2012 20:50 GMT
#272
On November 24 2012 05:38 SlowBullets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 05:28 Kluey wrote:
You guys have to remember that LoL is HUGE in Korea. It would be like switching from rugby to football in the US.


Nah it's like switching from middle school football too professional football.

Nah it's like switching from chess to checkers.

What's the point in having this kind of discussion? There are players that like lol, there are players that like SC2, and there are players that like both. Stop the nonsense comparing and gloating, guys. This does nothing good.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Nacht1331
Profile Joined November 2011
United States15 Posts
November 23 2012 20:51 GMT
#273
On November 24 2012 03:32 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 03:30 Nacht1331 wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm curious if he'll make it... well, anywhere in LoL.

None of the switched SC pros have been even remotely relevant so far.

Not to be too negative, I wish him the best of luck, of course.


Korea hasn't really been relevant so far either though. Western teams, and from what I gather Chinese teams, are the big names. It's asking a little much to expect the SC2 players to somehow join a random team and then a few months later just come from nowhere and win everything.


http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Azubu_Blaze

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Azubu Blaze's first event outside of Korea would be at the MLG 2012 Summer Arena. At the event, Azubu Blaze would go 8-1, taking out Team SoloMid, Team Curse, and Team BLACK to take first at the event. Azubu Blaze would suffer their only lost against North American team Curse.


I guess I missed that one O.o
Alas TSL, we knew the well.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 20:55:58
November 23 2012 20:54 GMT
#274
I peeked in this thread to see how big of a LoL - SC2 shitfest it is and was not disappointed.

www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
November 23 2012 20:55 GMT
#275
On November 24 2012 05:51 Nacht1331 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 03:32 lolmlg wrote:
On November 24 2012 03:30 Nacht1331 wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm curious if he'll make it... well, anywhere in LoL.

None of the switched SC pros have been even remotely relevant so far.

Not to be too negative, I wish him the best of luck, of course.


Korea hasn't really been relevant so far either though. Western teams, and from what I gather Chinese teams, are the big names. It's asking a little much to expect the SC2 players to somehow join a random team and then a few months later just come from nowhere and win everything.


http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Azubu_Blaze

Azubu Blaze's first event outside of Korea would be at the MLG 2012 Summer Arena. At the event, Azubu Blaze would go 8-1, taking out Team SoloMid, Team Curse, and Team BLACK to take first at the event. Azubu Blaze would suffer their only lost against North American team Curse.


I guess I missed that one O.o


You haven't been following it closely at all then. Korean teams (and some chinese teams) are dominating the scene, western teams can barely compete once again.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
November 23 2012 20:58 GMT
#276
puts a smile on my face to still see fanboys claiming LoL has an embedded stream in the client

its a been almost a year and people are still spewing bullshit as facts on these forums
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
November 23 2012 20:58 GMT
#277
On November 24 2012 05:54 zefreak wrote:
I peeked in this thread to see how big of a LoL - SC2 shitfest it is and was not disappointed.


You and me both.

People need to understand that this is a player who has not been successful in SC2 moving on to try something else in his progaming career. Sure, you've heard of Inori and he went okay for a while, but now he's only in Korea and he's never won a match at GOMTV. When a currently successful player switches, then you have permission to shit yourselves.
DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
November 23 2012 21:01 GMT
#278
GL Inori!
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
November 23 2012 21:06 GMT
#279
On November 24 2012 05:58 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 05:54 zefreak wrote:
I peeked in this thread to see how big of a LoL - SC2 shitfest it is and was not disappointed.


You and me both.

People need to understand that this is a player who has not been successful in SC2 moving on to try something else in his progaming career. Sure, you've heard of Inori and he went okay for a while, but now he's only in Korea and he's never won a match at GOMTV. When a currently successful player switches, then you have permission to shit yourselves.


No, people have to understand, that they don't really know any of the players. They can't know the exact reasons and it doesn't matter. Even if MVP switches, it should not affect you.

Play whatever you like best, watch whatever esport entertains you and be a happy man. Cut these shitstorms out.
War is not about who is right, but who is left.
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 21:10:31
November 23 2012 21:10 GMT
#280
On November 24 2012 06:06 testthewest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 05:58 Ruscour wrote:
On November 24 2012 05:54 zefreak wrote:
I peeked in this thread to see how big of a LoL - SC2 shitfest it is and was not disappointed.


You and me both.

People need to understand that this is a player who has not been successful in SC2 moving on to try something else in his progaming career. Sure, you've heard of Inori and he went okay for a while, but now he's only in Korea and he's never won a match at GOMTV. When a currently successful player switches, then you have permission to shit yourselves.


No, people have to understand, that they don't really know any of the players. They can't know the exact reasons and it doesn't matter. Even if MVP switches, it should not affect you.

Play whatever you like best, watch whatever esport entertains you and be a happy man. Cut these shitstorms out.


When there are people, there are shit. Can't be cut. No shit, no health.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
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