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On November 13 2012 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 21:55 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it an expansion or a stand alone game from WoL? For all intents and purposes it will play like a standalone, in that it will have its own separate ladder and campaign but I am very sure you'll need Wings of Liberty installed in order to run it.
..Which makes it an expansion :p
A standalone does not need the previous game in order to be playable, hots does need wol to be playable thus it is not a standalone, regardless of seperated ladder and campaign.
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On November 13 2012 21:58 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 21:55 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it an expansion or a stand alone game from WoL? Expansion. $40 to upgrade your WoL account into an HotS account. However, you can get the WoL+HotS bundle for only $60 apparently.
Which is a great incentive for new players to pick up both at the same time. Blizz has done this with all of their old RTS titles. When the expansion comes out the Battle Chest is always the best value but it's not worth buying if you already have the older title.
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Much earlier than I thought when they said first half of 2013. 
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If I have to choose between this release date with a half balanced multi and a summer release with HOTS ending up as good of an expansion as BW, then I'd rather wait until the summer. I hated to first year of WoL with the weekly random patches.
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On November 13 2012 21:59 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:55 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it an expansion or a stand alone game from WoL? For all intents and purposes it will play like a standalone, in that it will have its own separate ladder and campaign but I am very sure you'll need Wings of Liberty installed in order to run it. ..Which makes it a Blizzard expansion :p A standalone does not need the previous game in order to be playable, hots does need wol to be playable thus it is not a standalone, regardless of seperated ladder and campaign.
FTFY.
Most expansion packs I've played not made by Blizzard feel like minor additions to an already existing game wheras Blizzard expansions feel like entirely new games, almost mini-sequels.
HOTS will be no different. The UI will be different the gameplay very different and the playerbase separated from WoL.
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On November 13 2012 22:01 PVJ wrote:
If I have to choose between this release date with a half balanced multi and a summer release with HOTS ending up as good of an expansion as BW, then I'd rather wait until the summer. I hated to first year of WoL with the weekly random patches.
that's definitely a logical way of going about it. No matter how they slice it, HOTS multiplayer balance is going to be a mess for a while until the metagame settles down.
I'm buying it immediately for the campaign but I know a lot of people don't care much about the campaign. /shrug
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55€ seriously? I only have made 37€ on my balance. Looks like I have to grind more D3 Items to get the Deluxe Edition :x
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On November 13 2012 22:01 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 21:59 Fragile51 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:55 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it an expansion or a stand alone game from WoL? For all intents and purposes it will play like a standalone, in that it will have its own separate ladder and campaign but I am very sure you'll need Wings of Liberty installed in order to run it. ..Which makes it a Blizzard expansion :p A standalone does not need the previous game in order to be playable, hots does need wol to be playable thus it is not a standalone, regardless of seperated ladder and campaign. FTFY. Most expansion packs I've played not made by Blizzard feel like minor additions to an already existing game wheras Blizzard expansions feel like entirely new games, almost mini-sequels. HOTS will be no different. The UI will be different the gameplay very different and the playerbase separated from WoL.
by "the UI" you mean the worker count on your orbitals?
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Can't wait. Time to plan the vacation!
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On November 13 2012 22:01 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 21:59 Fragile51 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:55 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it an expansion or a stand alone game from WoL? For all intents and purposes it will play like a standalone, in that it will have its own separate ladder and campaign but I am very sure you'll need Wings of Liberty installed in order to run it. ..Which makes it a Blizzard expansion :p A standalone does not need the previous game in order to be playable, hots does need wol to be playable thus it is not a standalone, regardless of seperated ladder and campaign. FTFY. Most expansion packs I've played not made by Blizzard feel like minor additions to an already existing game wheras Blizzard expansions feel like entirely new games, almost mini-sequels. HOTS will be no different. The UI will be different the gameplay very different and the playerbase separated from WoL.
Well i was more aiming towards the whole "needing the previous game" part of it being an expansion. That's kind of crucial for most people who are intending to buy it. I know a standalone as what you are describing as a blizzard expansion, same formula as its predecessor but basically completely remade. Difference is that standalones don't need you to buy the previous game first, whilst that is the case for blizzard expansions.
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On November 13 2012 22:04 Kitaen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 22:01 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:59 Fragile51 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:55 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it an expansion or a stand alone game from WoL? For all intents and purposes it will play like a standalone, in that it will have its own separate ladder and campaign but I am very sure you'll need Wings of Liberty installed in order to run it. ..Which makes it a Blizzard expansion :p A standalone does not need the previous game in order to be playable, hots does need wol to be playable thus it is not a standalone, regardless of seperated ladder and campaign. FTFY. Most expansion packs I've played not made by Blizzard feel like minor additions to an already existing game wheras Blizzard expansions feel like entirely new games, almost mini-sequels. HOTS will be no different. The UI will be different the gameplay very different and the playerbase separated from WoL. by "the UI" you mean the worker count on your orbitals?
The entire in game menu also got a complete overhaul, in case you were living under a rock for the past couple weeks.
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On November 13 2012 21:52 Koesader wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 21:48 Copymizer wrote:
40$, that'll be 50€ in europe im pretty sure. well i can wait til the price gets lowered i guess That would be a bit too much, euro's are still worth more than dollars  Pretty sure it will be 40€
It is 40€. Why can't they learn that € != $. I would buy it for 40$ in an instant if they'd let me...
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If all of you saved a dollar every day starting today you would have more than enough... stfu.
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On November 13 2012 22:04 Kitaen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 22:01 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:59 Fragile51 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:55 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it an expansion or a stand alone game from WoL? For all intents and purposes it will play like a standalone, in that it will have its own separate ladder and campaign but I am very sure you'll need Wings of Liberty installed in order to run it. ..Which makes it a Blizzard expansion :p A standalone does not need the previous game in order to be playable, hots does need wol to be playable thus it is not a standalone, regardless of seperated ladder and campaign. FTFY. Most expansion packs I've played not made by Blizzard feel like minor additions to an already existing game wheras Blizzard expansions feel like entirely new games, almost mini-sequels. HOTS will be no different. The UI will be different the gameplay very different and the playerbase separated from WoL. by "the UI" you mean the worker count on your orbitals?
You somehow missed the entire overhaul of every single piece of the interface in the game except for the options menu? o_o
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On November 13 2012 20:28 MMDollar wrote:Ofc it is a expansion....
nop thats incorect, you dont need wol to play hots, they have their individual ranking and ladder,.
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On November 13 2012 22:06 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 22:04 Kitaen wrote:On November 13 2012 22:01 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:59 Fragile51 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:55 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it an expansion or a stand alone game from WoL? For all intents and purposes it will play like a standalone, in that it will have its own separate ladder and campaign but I am very sure you'll need Wings of Liberty installed in order to run it. ..Which makes it a Blizzard expansion :p A standalone does not need the previous game in order to be playable, hots does need wol to be playable thus it is not a standalone, regardless of seperated ladder and campaign. FTFY. Most expansion packs I've played not made by Blizzard feel like minor additions to an already existing game wheras Blizzard expansions feel like entirely new games, almost mini-sequels. HOTS will be no different. The UI will be different the gameplay very different and the playerbase separated from WoL. by "the UI" you mean the worker count on your orbitals? You somehow missed the entire overhaul of every single piece of the interface in the game except for the options menu? o_o
I think he's just bitching about a trivial part of the changes that will "ruin the competitive game" or some other such nonsense.
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Fun fact: Stephano and I both have a March 12th birthday. HotS confirmed for best expansion of all time.
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On November 13 2012 21:47 Gourmand wrote:Here's a picture of what the Digital Deluxe Edition contains. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PXBUG.png)
Thats so stupid so you pay 20 $ for ultralisk skin and some silly stuff for other games...
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On November 13 2012 22:04 Kitaen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 22:01 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:59 Fragile51 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 13 2012 21:55 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Is it an expansion or a stand alone game from WoL? For all intents and purposes it will play like a standalone, in that it will have its own separate ladder and campaign but I am very sure you'll need Wings of Liberty installed in order to run it. ..Which makes it a Blizzard expansion :p A standalone does not need the previous game in order to be playable, hots does need wol to be playable thus it is not a standalone, regardless of seperated ladder and campaign. FTFY. Most expansion packs I've played not made by Blizzard feel like minor additions to an already existing game wheras Blizzard expansions feel like entirely new games, almost mini-sequels. HOTS will be no different. The UI will be different the gameplay very different and the playerbase separated from WoL. by "the UI" you mean the worker count on your orbitals?
Probably also the new UI additions to Battle.net, although most, if not all, of those changes will be applied to WoL as well.
It's kinda interesting to see Blizzard not going down the path of stand-alone expansions like what other big-name RTS makers have done. iirc, quite a few of Relic's RTS games have had stand-alone expansions, like Dawn of War and Company of Heroes. C&C3 and RA3 each had their own stand-alone expansions. Total War has had a few stand-alone expansions.
What Blizzard is doing is more traditional, which I'm fine with.
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On November 13 2012 22:06 19Nov1980 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 20:28 MMDollar wrote:On November 13 2012 20:26 stichtom wrote:
Will WOL be required to play? Ofc it is a expansion.... nop thats incorect, you dont need wol to play hots, they have their individual ranking and ladder,.
Eh, pretty sure it's a WoL expansion because you need to have WoL in order to play Hots.
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