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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 19:01:53
November 11 2012 19:00 GMT
#121
Yeah take more time, give more fame and money to undeserving players and take it away from hardworking ones. Perhaps it would be cool to send baldie and 50(per)cent a couple of red noses and fake green curly hair so they can be professional clowns without trying to hide it so hard.
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 11 2012 19:01 GMT
#122
On November 12 2012 03:50 NightOfTheDead wrote:
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On November 12 2012 03:27 SupLilSon wrote:
Great to see Blizzard finally making some positive changes to SC2 the past few weeks. Hopefully we will see some major nerfs to the Infestor after BWC and this game might be going somewhere.


To advance game, you need to fix all unused units too. Why are they there, being barely used? Buff Raven big, give reaper utility, buff Carrier big, give hydra speed upgrade. Then nerf infestor, if the game stays the same. Pretty lame when blizz dont want to incorporate every unit out there.

So nerf anything of protoss terran and nerf infestor...you want zergs to vanish don't you?
nowhere a line about one of the hydra or any other zerg units to compensate.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
November 11 2012 19:02 GMT
#123
On November 12 2012 04:01 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 03:50 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On November 12 2012 03:27 SupLilSon wrote:
Great to see Blizzard finally making some positive changes to SC2 the past few weeks. Hopefully we will see some major nerfs to the Infestor after BWC and this game might be going somewhere.


To advance game, you need to fix all unused units too. Why are they there, being barely used? Buff Raven big, give reaper utility, buff Carrier big, give hydra speed upgrade. Then nerf infestor, if the game stays the same. Pretty lame when blizz dont want to incorporate every unit out there.

So nerf anything of protoss terran and nerf infestor...you want zergs to vanish don't you?
nowhere a line about one of the hydra or any other zerg units to compensate.


But a line about being open to other solutions should they arrive.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
November 11 2012 19:03 GMT
#124
On November 12 2012 04:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Yeah take more time, give more fame and money to undeserving players and take it away from hardworking ones. Perhaps it would be cool to send baldie and 50(per)cent a couple of red noses and fake red curly hair so they can be professional clowns without trying to hide it so hard.

Everytime I see you post, all you write about is negative stuff. You need to chill out broski.
Changing the infestor before BWC would require a massive tactical change from all the players in a short time frame, which seems like a bad idea. It's good enough that they recognize a problem and are dealing with it logically without affecting the main ppl affected by balance i.e. progamers.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 07:43:44
November 11 2012 19:04 GMT
#125
On November 12 2012 04:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Yeah take more time, give more fame and money to undeserving players and take it away from hardworking ones. Perhaps it would be cool to send baldie and 50(per)cent a couple of red noses and fake green curly hair so they can be professional clowns without trying to hide it so hard.


Wait, and you are one of the deserving ones? When it comes to mediocre forever whining SC 2 pros, you'd probably be the perpetual president. What a nothing you are, as a player and as a contributer to the SC2 scene and this community.

If you can't locate the find match button, maybe it's time you un-installed the game and gtfo already.

Thanks for the LOL though, bud. I had a good chuckle reading your post. Nice one.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
November 11 2012 19:04 GMT
#126
On November 12 2012 04:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Yeah take more time, give more fame and money to undeserving players and take it away from hardworking ones. Perhaps it would be cool to send baldie and 50(per)cent a couple of red noses and fake green curly hair so they can be professional clowns without trying to hide it so hard.

Its been that way for terrans for a long time (not recently, but most of the sc2 lifetime).
Refer to my post.
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
November 11 2012 19:05 GMT
#127
On November 12 2012 04:01 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 03:50 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On November 12 2012 03:27 SupLilSon wrote:
Great to see Blizzard finally making some positive changes to SC2 the past few weeks. Hopefully we will see some major nerfs to the Infestor after BWC and this game might be going somewhere.


To advance game, you need to fix all unused units too. Why are they there, being barely used? Buff Raven big, give reaper utility, buff Carrier big, give hydra speed upgrade. Then nerf infestor, if the game stays the same. Pretty lame when blizz dont want to incorporate every unit out there.

So nerf anything of protoss terran and nerf infestor...you want zergs to vanish don't you?
nowhere a line about one of the hydra or any other zerg units to compensate.


Sorry i do not follow you. I said buff other units instead of nerfing infestor. That includes hydra too. Then nerf infestor if need be.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 19:07:56
November 11 2012 19:06 GMT
#128
I don't understand Cloud's mindset. has been overpowered for a much longer time than 's current era but he would never say that are getting underserved money and fame back then.
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Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
November 11 2012 19:06 GMT
#129
On November 12 2012 04:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Yeah take more time, give more fame and money to undeserving players and take it away from hardworking ones. Perhaps it would be cool to send baldie and 50(per)cent a couple of red noses and fake green curly hair so they can be professional clowns without trying to hide it so hard.


When terran was absurdly OP you never won anything either.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
November 11 2012 19:07 GMT
#130
taminator i think cloud is free to feel the way he does, you dont need to police his opinions haha. i'm sure that if you were a terran player you would be frustrated by the really high mechanical demands and decision making the race takes at a high level.. especially if your race is suffering in winrates and all that. understand dont reprimand :p

and yea i think changing inestor would be a large issue right now. it would be difficult to change it without hurting zerg alot.. however, if they were 3 supply, or broodlord were 6, i think it would look and feel a lot more balance to spectators and players
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
November 11 2012 19:09 GMT
#131
I think infestors only need to have their model size decreased and maybe a slight nerf on movement speed(like .3 or .4).

Letting EMP and splash damage hit more infestors would seem to be a viable proposition, and reducing their offcreep speed would make it harder to escape and.

Also burrow movement should be more visible.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
November 11 2012 19:09 GMT
#132
I'm glad they aren't changing shit before their world tourny. I think this is a smart decision esp considering back when patches were more frequent people had no notice prior to mlgs etc and in some situations it possibly ended up screwing players to a degree who had practice specific things for a matchup.

I'm even more glad however that Rock and the Blizzard developers are actually making posts and keeping in closer contact via b.net forums about both wol and hots and aren't simply throwing WoL off to the side until hots is out. Also, I def feel more at ease knowing their general time frame for possible changes. so yea kudos to blizz <3

Try hard or don't try at all.
bearcatter
Profile Joined June 2010
United States171 Posts
November 11 2012 19:09 GMT
#133
Good decision to wait till after WCS. I think in the past they released a patch right before a major tournament that completely screwed up the balance if I remember correctly. Glad to see they learned their lesson
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
November 11 2012 19:10 GMT
#134
On November 12 2012 04:06 Shinespark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 04:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Yeah take more time, give more fame and money to undeserving players and take it away from hardworking ones. Perhaps it would be cool to send baldie and 50(per)cent a couple of red noses and fake green curly hair so they can be professional clowns without trying to hide it so hard.


When terran was absurdly OP you never won anything either.

Why do you assume I'm talking about myself. I always loathed how SC2 was designed and I never had enough passion to win stuff back then when it was all about who had the newest all in. This just adds up to the frustration I get when I realize how slow and incompetent SC2 designers are. Zerg has been a joke for months now and all they say is that they will wait until their own world tournament is screwed up just to start looking for solutions. This is RIDICOLOUS.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 11 2012 19:11 GMT
#135
I'm very happy they are recognizing the problem and already have ideas on how they will fix it. ( funnily enough, most of the things he listed came from our thread here on TL about " how would you change infestors? "
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
November 11 2012 19:11 GMT
#136
I really hope a Terran doesn't blow through a bunch of ZvTs and win the whole thing or this will never fucking get changed.
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Dzerzhinsky
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland327 Posts
November 11 2012 19:11 GMT
#137
On November 12 2012 03:13 Cinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 02:19 SiguR wrote:
What a succinct and honest statement. I'm sad that the world championships might get fucked over because of the balance, but as long as we're constantly moving towards a better game, I'm happy.


People currently overrate how good infestor is, it's mostly a defensive unit, recently Z just started to play more defensive and people feel they have to rush into it, it's like this all the time, people did it as well about the queen change, after short time no one cared about it, same happened when T was OP, etc. and every single time nothing changed, and suddenly it didn't matter at all.

People are just too keen on looking on the presence, rather than trying to develop new ways to approach the game, not just like P are doing constantly, making new goals to do the same thing as different timings. Z started to play differently, so P and T should as well

Plenty of people still care about the Queen change and think it was ridiculous, they just realise that it isn't going to change.
"All science would be superfluous if the outward appearance and the essence of things coincided directly."
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 11 2012 19:12 GMT
#138
On November 12 2012 04:05 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 04:01 Assirra wrote:
On November 12 2012 03:50 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On November 12 2012 03:27 SupLilSon wrote:
Great to see Blizzard finally making some positive changes to SC2 the past few weeks. Hopefully we will see some major nerfs to the Infestor after BWC and this game might be going somewhere.


To advance game, you need to fix all unused units too. Why are they there, being barely used? Buff Raven big, give reaper utility, buff Carrier big, give hydra speed upgrade. Then nerf infestor, if the game stays the same. Pretty lame when blizz dont want to incorporate every unit out there.

So nerf anything of protoss terran and nerf infestor...you want zergs to vanish don't you?
nowhere a line about one of the hydra or any other zerg units to compensate.


Sorry i do not follow you. I said buff other units instead of nerfing infestor. That includes hydra too. Then nerf infestor if need be.

ok sorry, my mistake then.
I am just so tired of seeing all the nerf threads without any compensation.
Yea infestor are broken but like it or not, zerg needs them in their current state to survive unless other things get changed around as well.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
November 11 2012 19:12 GMT
#139
On November 12 2012 04:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Yeah take more time, give more fame and money to undeserving players and take it away from hardworking ones. Perhaps it would be cool to send baldie and 50(per)cent a couple of red noses and fake green curly hair so they can be professional clowns without trying to hide it so hard.


That's a little harsh. Troll post I assume.
bearcatter
Profile Joined June 2010
United States171 Posts
November 11 2012 19:13 GMT
#140
On November 12 2012 04:10 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 04:06 Shinespark wrote:
On November 12 2012 04:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Yeah take more time, give more fame and money to undeserving players and take it away from hardworking ones. Perhaps it would be cool to send baldie and 50(per)cent a couple of red noses and fake green curly hair so they can be professional clowns without trying to hide it so hard.


When terran was absurdly OP you never won anything either.

Why do you assume I'm talking about myself. I always loathed how SC2 was designed and I never had enough passion to win stuff back then when it was all about who had the newest all in. This just adds up to the frustration I get when I realize how slow and incompetent SC2 designers are. Zerg has been a joke for months now and all they say is that they will wait until their own world tournament is screwed up just to start looking for solutions. This is RIDICOLOUS.


Why would you want a big balance patch to come right before a major tournament? That can only mean one thing, that the quality of play will be lowered as people look for the new meta game.
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