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Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 23 2012 00:36 GMT
#701
On October 23 2012 09:35 Caihead wrote:
ESF really needs to just put every single player on contract, having no legal consequences to these actions is so ridiculous.


SlayerS wasn't part of ESF and that's what kick-started off all this drama, glad you're not in charge lol.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
October 23 2012 00:36 GMT
#702
Seems like the whole situation is turning into he said she said, im right your wrong. Everyone seems to be at some sort of fault, and everyone shall suffer, granted the players will probably suffer more then anything which sucks :/
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
October 23 2012 00:36 GMT
#703
On October 23 2012 09:34 tMomiji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:33 Caihead wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:32 Waxangel wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:22 KgKris wrote:
Does anyone know what the Crank audio said and the Korean community's reactions to it?


He is fucked.


How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.


if in effect, Crank did leave SlayerS to join a foreign team (that's what happened, effectively), then you can't really blame Jessica for feeling lied to.


I don't understand this though, you can't just join another team then claim you left the team already.


He had no contract with Slayers.


Whether you have a contract or not shouldn't matter. Morally it's pretty damning, whether he can be held accountable due to contract or not.
storywriter
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia528 Posts
October 23 2012 00:36 GMT
#704
On October 23 2012 09:34 Kazeyonoma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:22 KgKris wrote:
Does anyone know what the Crank audio said and the Korean community's reactions to it?


He is fucked.


How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.


Because at the time crank was the co captain?

... fine, you'd leave handling your star player to your 'co captain'? There's no excuse for Jessica and Boxer having neglected the players.
Translator
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 00:37:48
October 23 2012 00:36 GMT
#705
On October 23 2012 09:34 tMomiji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:33 Caihead wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:32 Waxangel wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:22 KgKris wrote:
Does anyone know what the Crank audio said and the Korean community's reactions to it?


He is fucked.


How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.


if in effect, Crank did leave SlayerS to join a foreign team (that's what happened, effectively), then you can't really blame Jessica for feeling lied to.


I don't understand this though, you can't just join another team then claim you left the team already.


He had no contract with Slayers.


So Slayers had to operate on trusting the players not to jump ship whenever, yet the players didn't trust Slayers and they were wrong to not trust Slayers instead of trusting Mr. J. Sounds like bull shit to me. ESF should put every player on contract from now on to prevent crap like this.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 00:38:48
October 23 2012 00:37 GMT
#706
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:22 KgKris wrote:
Does anyone know what the Crank audio said and the Korean community's reactions to it?


He is fucked.


How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.
Yeah, the pone call is just here to divert from MMA's interview.
People say "you see ? Her threats were'nt empty ! She released the phone call !" So even if the phone call doesn't contain anything, it's the "proof" the masses wanted, even if it proves nothing.
It seems that Crank was the manager de facto of Slayers. Things were falling apart, then Crank became the "manager", then he could be blamed for everything that happened before. Basically it's like a fraudulent company that is going to get sued and that hire a new CEO just before the shitstorm as a scapegoat.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 00:37:45
October 23 2012 00:37 GMT
#707
where is that phonecall translated?
Amove for Aiur
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
October 23 2012 00:37 GMT
#708
On October 23 2012 09:36 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:34 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:33 Caihead wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:32 Waxangel wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 ThePurist wrote:
[quote]

He is fucked.


How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.


if in effect, Crank did leave SlayerS to join a foreign team (that's what happened, effectively), then you can't really blame Jessica for feeling lied to.


I don't understand this though, you can't just join another team then claim you left the team already.


He had no contract with Slayers.


Whether you have a contract or not shouldn't matter. Morally it's pretty damning, whether he can be held accountable due to contract or not.


So damning to do this to the players that have been promoting YOUR team, correct?
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
October 23 2012 00:37 GMT
#709
On October 23 2012 09:36 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:34 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:33 Caihead wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:32 Waxangel wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 ThePurist wrote:
[quote]

He is fucked.


How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.


if in effect, Crank did leave SlayerS to join a foreign team (that's what happened, effectively), then you can't really blame Jessica for feeling lied to.


I don't understand this though, you can't just join another team then claim you left the team already.


He had no contract with Slayers.


So Slayers had to operate on trusting the players not to jump ship whenever, yet the players didn't trust Slayers and they were wrong to not trust Slayers instead of trusting Mr. J. Sounds like bull shit to me. ESF should put every player on contract from no on to prevent crap like this.

SlayerS were never a part of ESF.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Scrabo
Profile Joined May 2012
Northern Ireland11 Posts
October 23 2012 00:38 GMT
#710
I don't understand how some people can be so invested in all this. Enjoying it even.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
October 23 2012 00:38 GMT
#711
On October 23 2012 09:35 Caihead wrote:
ESF really needs to just put every single player on contract, having no legal consequences to these actions is so ridiculous.

Not being paid is pretty ridiculous too. If you have people under contract, they have to get some compensation.

On October 23 2012 09:34 storywriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:32 Waxangel wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:22 KgKris wrote:
Does anyone know what the Crank audio said and the Korean community's reactions to it?


He is fucked.


How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.


if in effect, Crank did leave SlayerS to join a foreign team (that's what happened, effectively), then you can't really blame Jessica for feeling lied to.

Even if he had lied, Jessica has no right to be ruining Crank's image like this. He did not have a contract and was not legally bound to not join another team. IMO, Crank could have just packed up and left without a single reason and Jessica should have left him alone.

One does not simply cross Jessica and expect no repercussions.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 23 2012 00:38 GMT
#712
On October 23 2012 09:35 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:35 Caihead wrote:
ESF really needs to just put every single player on contract, having no legal consequences to these actions is so ridiculous.

wtf, weren't they on a contract already which Jessica had created?

only a handful of players were on contract i believe. Crank wasn't one of them.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
October 23 2012 00:38 GMT
#713
If MMA and Crank didn't have the courage to confront Jessica about the rumors... then to me, that speaks badly of Jessica as a leader and a manager. To be a good manager, you need to foster an atmosphere of trust and candor; even if sometimes you cannot be 100% transparent with what you're doing, players should never feel afraid to talk to you about something, especially if it's business-related. I get the impression that Jessica was a pretty terrible manager, and living in those conditions, it's not surprising to see this blow up into one big drama.

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tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
October 23 2012 00:38 GMT
#714
On October 23 2012 09:36 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:34 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:33 Caihead wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:32 Waxangel wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 ThePurist wrote:
[quote]

He is fucked.


How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.


if in effect, Crank did leave SlayerS to join a foreign team (that's what happened, effectively), then you can't really blame Jessica for feeling lied to.


I don't understand this though, you can't just join another team then claim you left the team already.


He had no contract with Slayers.


Whether you have a contract or not shouldn't matter. Morally it's pretty damning, whether he can be held accountable due to contract or not.


Morally, perhaps, but then again everyone has different morals. I think he handled it poorly but shouldn't be treated so hatefully. He wanted out of that horrible environment and was obviously distressed from trying so hard to improve things to no avail.
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
October 23 2012 00:39 GMT
#715
On October 23 2012 09:38 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:35 Integra wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:35 Caihead wrote:
ESF really needs to just put every single player on contract, having no legal consequences to these actions is so ridiculous.

wtf, weren't they on a contract already which Jessica had created?

only a handful of players were on contract i believe. Crank wasn't one of them.

Got it!
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 23 2012 00:39 GMT
#716
On October 23 2012 09:38 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:35 Integra wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:35 Caihead wrote:
ESF really needs to just put every single player on contract, having no legal consequences to these actions is so ridiculous.

wtf, weren't they on a contract already which Jessica had created?

only a handful of players were on contract i believe. Crank wasn't one of them.

I'm just curious, and this may be an aside, but are B-teamers on KeSPA contracted?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 23 2012 00:39 GMT
#717
On October 23 2012 09:37 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:22 KgKris wrote:
Does anyone know what the Crank audio said and the Korean community's reactions to it?


He is fucked.


How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.
Yeah, the pone call is just here to divert from MMA's interview.
People say "you see ? Her threats were'nt empty ! She released the phone call !" So even if the phone call doesn't contain anything, it's the "proof" the masses wanted, even if it proves nothing.
It seems that Crank was the manager de facto of Slayers. Things were falling apart, then Crank became the "manager", then he could be blamed for everything that happened before. Basically it's like fraudulent company that are going to get sued and that hire a new CEO just before the shitstorm as a scapegoat.


If the employees form a niche group and do not respond to the requests or inquiry of the employer, how are they hiring him as a scapegoat?
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Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
October 23 2012 00:39 GMT
#718
On October 23 2012 09:35 Proflo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:34 Kazeyonoma wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:22 KgKris wrote:
Does anyone know what the Crank audio said and the Korean community's reactions to it?


He is fucked.


How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.


Because at the time crank was the co captain?


Yo if people keep bringing logic into this thread it's going to start to stifle the "drama feel"... If you could keep anything borderline sensical to pm's please.


Sorry my mistake. Burn players burn. Empress jessica shall have ur undeserving heads buahaha

On the real though. Everytime a player comes out with a statement jessica releases more info in the form of hard evidence and said player gets fucked. Look at esf. Then alicia.. now apparently crank....
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
October 23 2012 00:39 GMT
#719
On October 23 2012 09:36 storywriter wrote:
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On October 23 2012 09:34 Kazeyonoma wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:22 KgKris wrote:
Does anyone know what the Crank audio said and the Korean community's reactions to it?


He is fucked.


How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.


Because at the time crank was the co captain?

... fine, you'd leave handling your star player to your 'co captain'? There's no excuse for Jessica and Boxer having neglected the players.


You think the manager of Startale is going to be walking around each day and help the players? Actually what about FXO, Choya is handling the affairs there, not some manager. Actually FXOBoSS was even pissed at Choya for being part of the eSF ban.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 23 2012 00:39 GMT
#720
On October 23 2012 09:37 Integra wrote:
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On October 23 2012 09:36 Caihead wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:34 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:33 Caihead wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:32 Waxangel wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:31 storywriter wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:27 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:25 tMomiji wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:24 ThePurist wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:23 tMomiji wrote:
[quote]

How do you know?


Cuz I read it. And this kid is just straight up self-centered, irresponsible, possibly lying to the end, and disrespectful.
GEE GEE..........


Wait, you can read Korean? ...So you can translate this?! Please?!?


I was going to attempt for the sake of peeps here. But I am retarded and I realize how much work the translators do here...ㅅㄳㄱ. Trust them with big stuff like this.

I read the phone call too and I don't get why Crank is getting all the hate. Jessica seems to think that Crank lied about not joining a foreign team but Crank makes it clear that he was leaving the team because it was going way downhill (he didn't even have a contract). Boxer doesn't seem to share Jessica's view either (he never explicitly says that Crank lied and says something like "you're going to have to deal with all the crap we give you only because you were the first to leave the team"). Also Boxer's comment about Crank being at fault because he didn't handle MMA - seriously? Why the fuck would you leave handling your star player to another player? WTF are managers for? I would say Crank is the scapegoat here.


if in effect, Crank did leave SlayerS to join a foreign team (that's what happened, effectively), then you can't really blame Jessica for feeling lied to.


I don't understand this though, you can't just join another team then claim you left the team already.


He had no contract with Slayers.


So Slayers had to operate on trusting the players not to jump ship whenever, yet the players didn't trust Slayers and they were wrong to not trust Slayers instead of trusting Mr. J. Sounds like bull shit to me. ESF should put every player on contract from no on to prevent crap like this.

SlayerS were never a part of ESF.


I know, I'm saying that from now on.
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