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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
October 18 2012 05:20 GMT
#2221
All this drama & also Blizzard's inability to listen makes SC2 look not very promising. I guess the 3 guys that joined LoL may have made the right decision. However, it's still possible they may get back if something better is on the table.
aerodynamicist
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada9 Posts
October 18 2012 05:23 GMT
#2222
nice
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
October 18 2012 05:23 GMT
#2223
On October 18 2012 14:14 Nostalgia.NA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 14:00 MCXD wrote:
I wish someone reliable/trusted would comb the korean communities thoroughly and let us know what they think of each of the individual issues, the disbanding, MMA/Ryung's status, etc. Not generally, but in each case.


Not so thorough, but skimming over the posts at PlayXP, this is what I can gather at the moment regarding the points you've mentioned. Sorry I couldn't find much on Ryung.

People at PlayXP in particular seem to be comparing ESF to KeSPA and hitting ESF hard, more so because ESF formed claiming they wouldn't be like KeSPA while doing these things behind the scene. A lot of them want the heads of ESF gone and all the crap weeded out. They are also mocking the press releases that the ESF sides have provided thus far, and are awaiting their new press release that was promised by a journalist at TIG. They mock these articles from ESF by constantly saying things like, "'Are they done writing the new novel yet?", "Are they writing up a graduation thesis of the century or something?", "Is the guy writing a word at a time and asking ESF if it's okay after each word?" because the article that was supposed to be released 'soon' taking so long to come out.
+ Show Spoiler +
(Apparently TIG is a very ESF friendly website; there has been a twitter capture image that someone posted showing Jessica talking to a journalist of TIG about releasing an article since August, but the journalist keeps pushing it back and Jessica instead opted to release it via Inven recently)


Alicia's image there is someone disgraceful with a childish mentality for acting like a spoiled brat even after having completed his service in the army and being in his mid-20s (not so young).

Crank is being hated on the most as he really bit the hand that fed him, and hard. He was being regarded as some bastard child that had no education in cultivation from his parents in a post, and most replies seemed to agree. The overall feeling towards Crank at PlayXP is very very negative due to his outrageous actions against Jessica and Boxer, yelling at them and questioning what they did for him.

A lot of people seem to be thinking that MMA is just 'stupid' being tricked by Manager J's words and acting out in such a manner. Some have already put him down as one of the back stabbers along with Alicia and Crank, but some still seem to want to wait until MMA makes a statement.

Funny how different it is compared to the overseas reaction of everyone bashing on Jessica.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
October 18 2012 05:24 GMT
#2224
On October 18 2012 14:20 darkness wrote:
All this drama & also Blizzard's inability to listen makes SC2 look not very promising. I guess the 3 guys that joined LoL may have made the right decision. However, it's still possible they may get back if something better is on the table.


They are gone, mainly because of the talent influx from KESPA teams.
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
October 18 2012 05:24 GMT
#2225
On October 18 2012 14:23 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 14:14 Nostalgia.NA wrote:
On October 18 2012 14:00 MCXD wrote:
I wish someone reliable/trusted would comb the korean communities thoroughly and let us know what they think of each of the individual issues, the disbanding, MMA/Ryung's status, etc. Not generally, but in each case.


Not so thorough, but skimming over the posts at PlayXP, this is what I can gather at the moment regarding the points you've mentioned. Sorry I couldn't find much on Ryung.

People at PlayXP in particular seem to be comparing ESF to KeSPA and hitting ESF hard, more so because ESF formed claiming they wouldn't be like KeSPA while doing these things behind the scene. A lot of them want the heads of ESF gone and all the crap weeded out. They are also mocking the press releases that the ESF sides have provided thus far, and are awaiting their new press release that was promised by a journalist at TIG. They mock these articles from ESF by constantly saying things like, "'Are they done writing the new novel yet?", "Are they writing up a graduation thesis of the century or something?", "Is the guy writing a word at a time and asking ESF if it's okay after each word?" because the article that was supposed to be released 'soon' taking so long to come out.
+ Show Spoiler +
(Apparently TIG is a very ESF friendly website; there has been a twitter capture image that someone posted showing Jessica talking to a journalist of TIG about releasing an article since August, but the journalist keeps pushing it back and Jessica instead opted to release it via Inven recently)


Alicia's image there is someone disgraceful with a childish mentality for acting like a spoiled brat even after having completed his service in the army and being in his mid-20s (not so young).

Crank is being hated on the most as he really bit the hand that fed him, and hard. He was being regarded as some bastard child that had no education in cultivation from his parents in a post, and most replies seemed to agree. The overall feeling towards Crank at PlayXP is very very negative due to his outrageous actions against Jessica and Boxer, yelling at them and questioning what they did for him.

A lot of people seem to be thinking that MMA is just 'stupid' being tricked by Manager J's words and acting out in such a manner. Some have already put him down as one of the back stabbers along with Alicia and Crank, but some still seem to want to wait until MMA makes a statement.

Funny how different it is compared to the overseas reaction of everyone bashing on Jessica.

Boxer is a bigger name in Korea. By extension, that casts Jessica in a better light in Korea as well.
Sikly
Profile Joined June 2011
United States413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 05:31:57
October 18 2012 05:30 GMT
#2226
On October 18 2012 14:23 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 14:14 Nostalgia.NA wrote:
On October 18 2012 14:00 MCXD wrote:
I wish someone reliable/trusted would comb the korean communities thoroughly and let us know what they think of each of the individual issues, the disbanding, MMA/Ryung's status, etc. Not generally, but in each case.


Not so thorough, but skimming over the posts at PlayXP, this is what I can gather at the moment regarding the points you've mentioned. Sorry I couldn't find much on Ryung.

People at PlayXP in particular seem to be comparing ESF to KeSPA and hitting ESF hard, more so because ESF formed claiming they wouldn't be like KeSPA while doing these things behind the scene. A lot of them want the heads of ESF gone and all the crap weeded out. They are also mocking the press releases that the ESF sides have provided thus far, and are awaiting their new press release that was promised by a journalist at TIG. They mock these articles from ESF by constantly saying things like, "'Are they done writing the new novel yet?", "Are they writing up a graduation thesis of the century or something?", "Is the guy writing a word at a time and asking ESF if it's okay after each word?" because the article that was supposed to be released 'soon' taking so long to come out.
+ Show Spoiler +
(Apparently TIG is a very ESF friendly website; there has been a twitter capture image that someone posted showing Jessica talking to a journalist of TIG about releasing an article since August, but the journalist keeps pushing it back and Jessica instead opted to release it via Inven recently)


Alicia's image there is someone disgraceful with a childish mentality for acting like a spoiled brat even after having completed his service in the army and being in his mid-20s (not so young).

Crank is being hated on the most as he really bit the hand that fed him, and hard. He was being regarded as some bastard child that had no education in cultivation from his parents in a post, and most replies seemed to agree. The overall feeling towards Crank at PlayXP is very very negative due to his outrageous actions against Jessica and Boxer, yelling at them and questioning what they did for him.

A lot of people seem to be thinking that MMA is just 'stupid' being tricked by Manager J's words and acting out in such a manner. Some have already put him down as one of the back stabbers along with Alicia and Crank, but some still seem to want to wait until MMA makes a statement.

Funny how different it is compared to the overseas reaction of everyone bashing on Jessica.


I think it comes down to translation a lot of the time. The feelings and emotion she has can easily be a good or bad thing based on context, and context in a situation like this is VERY easily lost in translation. From the bits of info we are getting, it seems like the Korean community is also having a ton more information available, and it seems a lot of it is painting Jessica and Boxer in a positive light.

I wish I spoke fluent Korean so I could get a better feel for this situation on my own, rather than getting it filtered through a translators judgement. No matter how neutral you try to translate something, it is going to be heavily effected by your opinions and how you read into things, as that is part of translating.
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
October 18 2012 05:32 GMT
#2227
Poor little Jessica being bullied by those big boys and even being betrayed by her own kids....
SmokeMonster
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada72 Posts
October 18 2012 05:34 GMT
#2228
Hmm.. is there not a single person in the SC2 community that can translate Korean into proper English? Brain cells died while reading through these translations.

User was temp banned for this post.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8250 Posts
October 18 2012 05:38 GMT
#2229
On October 18 2012 14:19 lilsusie wrote:
Talked to MMA this morning, he's on the fence about writing his side of it or not because he's afraid that it's gonna get blown up even bigger. But if he doesn't say something then he's afraid the community will think ill of him because of Jessica's words which he says are not completely true. And from knowing MMA in person, he's always been super respectful, I doubt he'd ever "yell" at Boxer (which, I doubt Crank did too; he probably just "talked back" to him which might be considered "yelling" to Jessica).

Part of the conversation I had:

[1:42:50 PM] 문성원: 요환이형이 (Boxer is)
[1:42:51 PM] 문성원: 중간에 껴있어서 (caught in the middle)
[1:42:59 PM] 문성원: 제가 요환이형을 욕할순 없어요 (I can't talk bad about Boxer, rather the implication through context of the whole conversation was "I couldn't talk bad about Boxer [because he respects him])

I am super looking forward to seeing his side of things.

Wait. YOU know MMA in PERSON?
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
October 18 2012 05:39 GMT
#2230
On October 18 2012 14:34 SmokeMonster wrote:
Hmm.. is there not a single person in the SC2 community that can translate Korean into proper English? Brain cells died while reading through these translations.


Or you can be thankful that these people translated Korean into English for you at all in the first place considering how long that wall of text was.
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dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
October 18 2012 05:39 GMT
#2231
Alicia's interview did not help his cause at all. In fact, he slapped himself in the face with the level of immaturity he demonstrated. PLUS, he made MMA look like a complete tool.
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
Nostalgia.NA
Profile Joined February 2011
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 05:43:35
October 18 2012 05:39 GMT
#2232
On October 18 2012 14:34 SmokeMonster wrote:
Hmm.. is there not a single person in the SC2 community that can translate Korean into proper English? Brain cells died while reading through these translations.


I personally didn't study Korean or English thoroughly so I apologize for the rubbish translations that I contributed. It's kinda hard because sentence structures of Korean and English grammar are completely flipped around and have different vibes to them even if they say the same thing. ):
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J0k3
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden40 Posts
October 18 2012 05:41 GMT
#2233
Thanks alot for translating, it was a very interesting read. I have always been a huge SlayerS fan, I hope the players will find new teams they feel happy with
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 18 2012 05:44 GMT
#2234
On October 18 2012 14:39 Nostalgia.NA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 14:34 SmokeMonster wrote:
Hmm.. is there not a single person in the SC2 community that can translate Korean into proper English? Brain cells died while reading through these translations.


I personally didn't study Korean or English thoroughly so I apologize for the rubbish translations that I contributed. It's kinda hard because sentence structures of Korean and English grammar are completely flipped around and have different vibes to them even if they say the same thing. ):

그냥 하지마세요 저런 ㅅㄱㅈ 없는 시키들
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 18 2012 05:49 GMT
#2235
On October 18 2012 14:24 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 14:23 Taku wrote:
On October 18 2012 14:14 Nostalgia.NA wrote:
On October 18 2012 14:00 MCXD wrote:
I wish someone reliable/trusted would comb the korean communities thoroughly and let us know what they think of each of the individual issues, the disbanding, MMA/Ryung's status, etc. Not generally, but in each case.


Not so thorough, but skimming over the posts at PlayXP, this is what I can gather at the moment regarding the points you've mentioned. Sorry I couldn't find much on Ryung.

People at PlayXP in particular seem to be comparing ESF to KeSPA and hitting ESF hard, more so because ESF formed claiming they wouldn't be like KeSPA while doing these things behind the scene. A lot of them want the heads of ESF gone and all the crap weeded out. They are also mocking the press releases that the ESF sides have provided thus far, and are awaiting their new press release that was promised by a journalist at TIG. They mock these articles from ESF by constantly saying things like, "'Are they done writing the new novel yet?", "Are they writing up a graduation thesis of the century or something?", "Is the guy writing a word at a time and asking ESF if it's okay after each word?" because the article that was supposed to be released 'soon' taking so long to come out.
+ Show Spoiler +
(Apparently TIG is a very ESF friendly website; there has been a twitter capture image that someone posted showing Jessica talking to a journalist of TIG about releasing an article since August, but the journalist keeps pushing it back and Jessica instead opted to release it via Inven recently)


Alicia's image there is someone disgraceful with a childish mentality for acting like a spoiled brat even after having completed his service in the army and being in his mid-20s (not so young).

Crank is being hated on the most as he really bit the hand that fed him, and hard. He was being regarded as some bastard child that had no education in cultivation from his parents in a post, and most replies seemed to agree. The overall feeling towards Crank at PlayXP is very very negative due to his outrageous actions against Jessica and Boxer, yelling at them and questioning what they did for him.

A lot of people seem to be thinking that MMA is just 'stupid' being tricked by Manager J's words and acting out in such a manner. Some have already put him down as one of the back stabbers along with Alicia and Crank, but some still seem to want to wait until MMA makes a statement.

Funny how different it is compared to the overseas reaction of everyone bashing on Jessica.

Boxer is a bigger name in Korea. By extension, that casts Jessica in a better light in Korea as well.

Boxer is big indeed but jessica probably is a tad bigger... She can be seen a lot in variety shows and such
tyner
Profile Joined August 2012
176 Posts
October 18 2012 05:50 GMT
#2236
On October 18 2012 14:34 SmokeMonster wrote:
Hmm.. is there not a single person in the SC2 community that can translate Korean into proper English? Brain cells died while reading through these translations.


Ya what a bunch of idiots they can't even translate between two completely different languages.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 18 2012 05:52 GMT
#2237
I really am interested in MMA's side of things. I'm sure if he said his part, the foreign community would more than likely be on the majority of his side. In Korea, with how big Boxer is and how they seem to be looking at Crank (who the foreign community loves), he could be roasted.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
October 18 2012 05:55 GMT
#2238
Slayers Alicia comes across as the biggest tool in the shed.
Yup, man child sums it up pretty good.

ESF seems to be well on its way to become another KESPA. Not the good bits, but the take no prisoners, destroy anyone who doesn't toe the party line style.
Eetee
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore373 Posts
October 18 2012 05:56 GMT
#2239
Ooohh delicious E-sports drama, love it
EeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeTTeeeeeeeeeeee!
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
October 18 2012 05:59 GMT
#2240
On October 18 2012 14:19 lilsusie wrote:
Talked to MMA this morning, he's on the fence about writing his side of it or not because he's afraid that it's gonna get blown up even bigger. But if he doesn't say something then he's afraid the community will think ill of him because of Jessica's words which he says are not completely true. And from knowing MMA in person, he's always been super respectful, I doubt he'd ever "yell" at Boxer (which, I doubt Crank did too; he probably just "talked back" to him which might be considered "yelling" to Jessica).

Part of the conversation I had:

[1:42:50 PM] 문성원: 요환이형이 (Boxer is)
[1:42:51 PM] 문성원: 중간에 껴있어서 (caught in the middle)
[1:42:59 PM] 문성원: 제가 요환이형을 욕할순 없어요 (I can't talk bad about Boxer, rather the implication through context of the whole conversation was "I couldn't talk bad about Boxer [because he respects him])

I am super looking forward to seeing his side of things.


I hope if he releases something it's brief and he takes responsibility for whatever he did or didn't do and then this whole thing can go away.
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