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Mouzone
3937 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:57 Sc2Null wrote: Not sure why stephano joined EG in the first place, god knows he didn't need the money...Now all his behavior will be policed and EG has the right to stop him from joining tounaments. Follow the money trail. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:56 Xapti wrote: By "this", you meant the stephano incident? where did you hear this from, or how do you know? If that's what Idra said it's far worse (yet still not worth much or any punishment) for many reasons: 1. I assume he said thing in a knowingly-public environment, not an assumed-to-be 1-on-1 private conversation. 2. It is specifically a hateful or abusive comment towards a particular person or group. 3. Idra said that statement in his primary language to which he is very proficient in. 4. While it's pretty obvious he doesn't mean it, the statement is clear, and there's nothing implied. In Stehano's case, his statement is extremely ambiguious, and not sexual whatsoever, and no one but Stephano himself can claim that he implied anything — you can only infer based off what he said, and you may be inferring improperly It's absolutely nonsensical that Stephano would get punished for this — at the worst there should have been some sort of stern warning. I don't even think this thing was news whatsoever until people heard that Stephano was punished. If it wasn't newsworthy to most people, why should EG care about it? Idra's comment was basically "fuck this guy, I hate him" Stephano's comment was basically "I fucked a minor" Yeah, Idra's is much worse because english is his native language. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:56 MonkSEA wrote: Deserves him right, I've said it before and I'll say it again: Stephano needs to act more professional else he'll be left on second rate teams who can handle the massive negative PR. Millenium didn't seems to care that much And they offered 6k / month | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:57 Fyodor wrote: It's all on him to be honest. If you're not smart enough to understand that you can't casually admit that you're a sex criminal when you are a public personality (or anyone, for that matter) then you deserve to spend a very bad couple of months while everything is sorted out. This is the part that worries me, Stephano can't possibly be this stupid. Good job to EG taking action quickly though. | ||
mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
 I know you're doing this for the money, but nevertheless I liked the funny Stephano with the "i don't give a shit" attitude a lot more than the EGstephano. This is honestly painful for me to see. | ||
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WarrickHunt
United Kingdom393 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:58 Lasbike wrote: You realize EG did this thing because the fuckep up people of SRS massively emailed the sponsors, right ? I understand that EG is a business, but surrendering to SRS, seriously ? Those dicks can pretty much do anything to this (already) terrible community now. I agree with you, but sometimes business is business. If the sponsors are being threatened, I don't see what else EG could have done. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
Its fine to joke (altho i don't really understand what would be funny about that), but don't get caught. Its a basic rule. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:58 Psychobabas wrote: Meh I've heard worse in my local pub over a cheap beer. Anyway, not a big deal. I'm guessing the majority of people posting in this thread have never been in their local pub or bar. They seem completely sheltered to be offended by something like this. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10344 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:59 Jojo131 wrote: This is the part that worries me, Stephano can't possibly be this stupid. If that were true, this thread would not exist. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:51 Strukken wrote: He used the word abuse, that makes his comments very bad, it doesn´t matter wether it happened or the age There are many progamers than lack largely of any education check out this: https://ja.twitter.com/LiquidNonY Tyler Wasieleski @LiquidNonY man fuck gsl i got fucked on this world championship thing -_- boycott dat shit 3 oct Patrick Soulliere II Patrick Soulliere II @ESVDiamond @LiquidNonY Great post full of details on why to boycott it instead of a standard progamer QQ rage post. Oh wait....... 3 oct Tyler Wasieleski Tyler Wasieleski @LiquidNonY @ESVDiamond what the fuck do you know what twitter is lol 140char max aint no posts full of details and explanations. get real bitch Here we have mr. Nony insulting the CES of ESV TV, you tell me it is like if a football player insulted the boss of UEFA lol Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nony graduate from Duke? Lol, "lack largely of any education," my ass. He's probably better educated than 90% of TL. | ||
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:58 Psychobabas wrote: Meh I've heard worse in my local pub over a cheap beer. Anyway, not a big deal. So you hang out with pedophiles and sex criminals? | ||
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Dali.
New Zealand689 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:56 bOneSeven wrote: Implying it's ok that u get ure urine tested and facebook monitored and have to fit in small box until you die ? It's not your company. You either play ball or you leave. Fairness or ethics are thrown out the window once money is involved. It sucks, but that's reality for you. | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
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Strukken
Spain5 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:00 babylon wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nony graduate from Duke? Lol, "lack largely of any education," my ass. He's probably better educated than 90% of TL. Educated doesn´t refer just to have titles but to have good manners, that´s what i meant. Call bitch to the ceo of a big korean tournament through twitter shows very bad manners | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:00 Fyodor wrote: So you hang out with pedophiles and sex criminals? Yes, and cannibal serial killers during football time. Come join me. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:57 Fyodor wrote: It's all on him to be honest. If you're not smart enough to understand that you can't casually admit that you're a sex criminal when you are a public personality (or anyone, for that matter) then you deserve to spend a very bad couple of months while everything is sorted out. Every post of yours I've read uses the term sexual criminal or some variation of. Making a joke doesn't make you a criminal, at least not in most places I've been to. you don't seem (or perhaps want) to be able to grasp the fact that words do not mean ANYTHING. If there were evidence that Stephano actually had sex with a 14 year old girl, he would have been fired. Please stop reffering to him as a criminal, you may not like him but that doesn't make him a bad guy. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7384 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:00 Fyodor wrote: So you hang out with pedophiles and sex criminals? Or people who have skin thicker than wet tissue paper. | ||
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Kasu
United Kingdom345 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:00 Fyodor wrote: So you hang out with pedophiles and sex criminals? You're missing the key point that PEOPLE AREN'T ALWAYS SERIOUS WHEN THEY SAY BAD THINGS. Edit: Along with half the posters in this fucking thread. | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:58 Clarity_nl wrote: Is that sarcasm?Idra's comment was basically "fuck this guy, I hate him" Stephano's comment was basically "I fucked a minor" Yeah, Idra's is much worse because english is his native language. I totally disagree of your summation of both player's comments. One was an indirect specific threat on a specific person, another was an ambiguous statement regarding an unnamed person; The sexual tones are inferred, not necessarily implied. Aside from that, while Idra did not mean what he said, I would not define it as a joke either. With Stephano's case, it seems much more likely to be a joke, and did in fact incite laughter. You also don't bother to distinguish the different contexts, public and private(intention), which is HUGE. | ||
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