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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 13 2012 00:53 GMT
#521
On October 13 2012 09:48 Msr wrote:
do people actually care/offended that he typed that?

Sponsors might.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 13 2012 00:54 GMT
#522
On October 13 2012 09:51 Strukken wrote:
He used the word abuse, that makes his comments very bad, it doesn´t matter where it was really or not

There are many progamers than lack largely of any education check out this:
https://ja.twitter.com/LiquidNonY

Tyler Wasieleski ‏@LiquidNonY
man fuck gsl i got fucked on this world championship thing -_- boycott dat shit
3 oct Patrick Soulliere II Patrick Soulliere II ‏@ESVDiamond
@LiquidNonY Great post full of details on why to boycott it instead of a standard progamer QQ rage post. Oh wait.......
3 oct Tyler Wasieleski Tyler Wasieleski ‏@LiquidNonY
@ESVDiamond what the fuck do you know what twitter is lol 140char max aint no posts full of details and explanations. get real bitch

Here we have mr. Nony insulting the CES of ESV TV, you tell me it is like if a football player insulted the boss of UEFA lol


What does this have to do with anything, mr 1 post?
"fuck this, fuck that, I hate people" or "I fucked a 14 yo" Why are you comparing these?!
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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 13 2012 00:54 GMT
#523
FakeSteve[TPR] Valhalla. March 21 2007 03:01. Posts 16601 PM Profile Blog Quote #
there are a group of extreme prudes on this site, its best not to argue with them because they will just dismiss you as morally bankrupt and therefore worthless

True in 2007, true today.
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skunkz
Profile Joined April 2011
France32 Posts
October 13 2012 00:54 GMT
#524
Come on, this is bs. Wouldn't be suprised if it was his first time and so he brags about it just to feel manly...
The guy is only 19, to me there is 70% he just lied.
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Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 13 2012 00:54 GMT
#525
Good stuff
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 13 2012 00:54 GMT
#526
he's creating drama already lol. I think EG taking action before it spiralled out of control was the right thing to do.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
October 13 2012 00:54 GMT
#527
What the eff just happened here? o.0
I'm slightly shocked, mostly because this seems like it came out of nowhere.
bOneSeven
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Romania685 Posts
October 13 2012 00:56 GMT
#528
On October 13 2012 09:50 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:46 Necosarius wrote:
Make a joke on a private chat between friends that happens to be streamed and lose a months salary. This community is way too sensitive.


And make a private post on facebook between work colleagues to later find out you have been fired because someone found it offensive and it is against company ethics.

Next time Stephano shouldn't say stupid shit to this degree if he doesn't want to lose a month's salary.


Implying it's ok that u get ure urine tested and facebook monitored and have to fit in small box until you die ?
Planet earth is blue and there's nothing I can do
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
October 13 2012 00:56 GMT
#529
On October 13 2012 09:50 Maxhster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:44 Fyodor wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:41 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:39 StarStruck wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:33 Mouzone wrote:
It must be a nightmare running a company and being surrounded by unpredictable people who at any point can pull off shit like this.


Most of the players are either young teenagers or young adults. They have to grow up rather fast and in many cases they need to be coached on how to conduct themselves as a pro athlete especially considering gamer language has always been low brow and degrading.

I certainly don't see teams giving them PR coaching.

Yeah exactly, these are young arrogant immature gamer types, not polished professional PC athletes (who conversely say all the right things but fuck up in real life). What did you really expect?

Do like STX and only contract people who you have confidence in being mature and professional. If they are young then coach them on how to act. If they don't learn then let them go.

I think it's obvious that Korea just has a better gaming culture, in attitude and skill, and when it comes to this kind of "humor." They don't need to be coached like this: "Okay guys, welcome to the team, but for the love of God, do not joke about being a pedophile. I can't stress this enough."



i think its obvious that koreans are trained to always "play the best for the fans" as i call it. They have no character, no rough edges. Thats why people like dragon and MC stand out so much. Thats also why stephano stands out so much.


On October 13 2012 09:51 Angelbelow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:44 Fyodor wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:41 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:39 StarStruck wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:33 Mouzone wrote:
It must be a nightmare running a company and being surrounded by unpredictable people who at any point can pull off shit like this.


Most of the players are either young teenagers or young adults. They have to grow up rather fast and in many cases they need to be coached on how to conduct themselves as a pro athlete especially considering gamer language has always been low brow and degrading.

I certainly don't see teams giving them PR coaching.

Yeah exactly, these are young arrogant immature gamer types, not polished professional PC athletes (who conversely say all the right things but fuck up in real life). What did you really expect?

Do like STX and only contract people who you have confidence in being mature and professional. If they are young then coach them on how to act. If they don't learn then let them go.

I think it's obvious that Korea just has a better gaming culture, in attitude and skill, and when it comes to this kind of "humor." They don't need to be coached like this: "Okay guys, welcome to the team, but for the love of God, do not joke about being a pedophile. I can't stress this enough."


"Better"? The majority of are anti social and lack confidence. Over 2 years in and there is still only 1 MC and a handful on guys confident enough to not have an awkward interview.

I can tell you guys don't follow the scene very closely.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 13 2012 00:56 GMT
#530
On October 13 2012 09:51 Strukken wrote:
He used the word abuse, that makes his comments very bad, it doesn´t matter wether it happened or the age

There are many progamers than lack largely of any education check out this:
https://ja.twitter.com/LiquidNonY

Tyler Wasieleski ‏@LiquidNonY
man fuck gsl i got fucked on this world championship thing -_- boycott dat shit
3 oct Patrick Soulliere II Patrick Soulliere II ‏@ESVDiamond
@LiquidNonY Great post full of details on why to boycott it instead of a standard progamer QQ rage post. Oh wait.......
3 oct Tyler Wasieleski Tyler Wasieleski ‏@LiquidNonY
@ESVDiamond what the fuck do you know what twitter is lol 140char max aint no posts full of details and explanations. get real bitch

Here we have mr. Nony insulting the CES of ESV TV, you tell me it is like if a football player insulted the boss of UEFA lol


Double standards? On the internet? Never.

When football players do this they get fined, simple. Stephano has essentially been fined as well. What else is there to it? A punishment has been made, that should be the end of it.
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MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
October 13 2012 00:56 GMT
#531
Deserves him right, I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Stephano needs to act more professional else he'll be left on second rate teams who can handle the massive negative PR.
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Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
October 13 2012 00:56 GMT
#532
On October 13 2012 09:51 Strukken wrote:
He used the word abuse, that makes his comments very bad, it doesn´t matter wether it happened or the age

There are many progamers than lack largely of any education check out this:
https://ja.twitter.com/LiquidNonY

Tyler Wasieleski ‏@LiquidNonY
man fuck gsl i got fucked on this world championship thing -_- boycott dat shit
3 oct Patrick Soulliere II Patrick Soulliere II ‏@ESVDiamond
@LiquidNonY Great post full of details on why to boycott it instead of a standard progamer QQ rage post. Oh wait.......
3 oct Tyler Wasieleski Tyler Wasieleski ‏@LiquidNonY
@ESVDiamond what the fuck do you know what twitter is lol 140char max aint no posts full of details and explanations. get real bitch

Here we have mr. Nony insulting the CES of ESV TV, you tell me it is like if a football player insulted the boss of UEFA lol


Are you implying Nony, one of the real pillars of this community, and who has given more to the scene than most is uneducated? I mean, cuz you'd be 100% wrong.

Bringing this up kinda proves that we're overly sensitive more than anything else, if we're going to use "get real bitch" as something that we should take issue with.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 13 2012 00:56 GMT
#533
On October 13 2012 09:54 skunkz wrote:
Come on, this is bs. Wouldn't be suprised if it was his first time and so he brags about it just to feel manly...
The guy is only 19, to me there is 70% he just lied.


Oh, he's 19 and there's a (according to you) THIRTY PERCENT CHANCE HE FUCKED A MINOR.
No big deal
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 01:00:51
October 13 2012 00:56 GMT
#534
On October 13 2012 09:47 00Visor wrote:
Idra said David Kim should get raped with a tire iron.

I don't want to discuss which statement is worse.
But this was entirely forced by people emailing the sponsors. Its really sad. Stupid trolls are killing esports.

By "this", you meant the stephano incident? where did you hear this from, or how do you know?

If that's what Idra said it's far worse (yet still not worth much or any punishment) for many reasons:

1. I assume he said thing in a knowingly-public environment, not an assumed-to-be 1-on-1 private conversation.

2. It is specifically a hateful or abusive comment towards a particular person or group.

3. Idra said that statement in his primary language to which he is very proficient in.

4. While it's pretty obvious he doesn't mean it, the statement is clear, and there's nothing implied. In Stehano's case, his statement is extremely ambiguious, and not sexual whatsoever, and no one but Stephano himself can claim that he implied anything — you can only infer based off what he said, and you may be inferring improperly


It's absolutely nonsensical that Stephano would get punished for this — at the worst there should have been some sort of stern warning. I don't even think this thing was news whatsoever until people heard that Stephano was punished. If it wasn't newsworthy to most people, why should EG care about it?

On October 13 2012 09:56 MonkSEA wrote:
Deserves him right, I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Stephano needs to act more professional else he'll be left on second rate teams who can handle the massive negative PR.

I don't know if it's just me not hearing about it previously, but as far as I know, there was no negative PR until EG specifically made a big deal about it. It's not his fault for making the negative PR, it's EG's.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
JyB
Profile Joined January 2012
France466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:58:56
October 13 2012 00:57 GMT
#535
On October 13 2012 09:49 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:48 Msr wrote:
do people actually care/offended that he typed that?

Many people here seem to care... That, however, is completely outside the real point of why EG did this


This. And none of them seems to get it.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
October 13 2012 00:57 GMT
#536
Not sure why stephano joined EG in the first place, god knows he didn't need the money...Now all his behavior will be policed and EG has the right to stop him from joining tounaments.
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Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
October 13 2012 00:57 GMT
#537
On October 13 2012 09:54 skunkz wrote:
Come on, this is bs. Wouldn't be suprised if it was his first time and so he brags about it just to feel manly...
The guy is only 19, to me there is 70% he just lied.

It's all on him to be honest. If you're not smart enough to understand that you can't casually admit that you're a sex criminal when you are a public personality (or anyone, for that matter) then you deserve to spend a very bad couple of months while everything is sorted out.
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Strukken
Profile Joined October 2012
Spain5 Posts
October 13 2012 00:57 GMT
#538
On October 13 2012 09:54 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:51 Strukken wrote:
He used the word abuse, that makes his comments very bad, it doesn´t matter where it was really or not

There are many progamers than lack largely of any education check out this:
https://ja.twitter.com/LiquidNonY

Tyler Wasieleski ‏@LiquidNonY
man fuck gsl i got fucked on this world championship thing -_- boycott dat shit
3 oct Patrick Soulliere II Patrick Soulliere II ‏@ESVDiamond
@LiquidNonY Great post full of details on why to boycott it instead of a standard progamer QQ rage post. Oh wait.......
3 oct Tyler Wasieleski Tyler Wasieleski ‏@LiquidNonY
@ESVDiamond what the fuck do you know what twitter is lol 140char max aint no posts full of details and explanations. get real bitch

Here we have mr. Nony insulting the CES of ESV TV, you tell me it is like if a football player insulted the boss of UEFA lol


What does this have to do with anything, mr 1 post?
"fuck this, fuck that, I hate people" or "I fucked a 14 yo" Why are you comparing these?!



Well man, it shows similar type of bad education, its much worse to say than you abuse of a kid than to insult the ceo of a big tournament but both show up than they are behaving badly
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
October 13 2012 00:58 GMT
#539
Meh I've heard worse in my local pub over a cheap beer.

Anyway, not a big deal.
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
October 13 2012 00:58 GMT
#540
On October 13 2012 09:20 Dismay wrote:
You realize EG had to do something or else the community would threaten to email sponsors, right?

Because that's what you guys do.

You realize EG did this thing because the fuckep up people of SRS massively emailed the sponsors, right ?

I understand that EG is a business, but surrendering to SRS, seriously ? Those dicks can pretty much do anything to this (already) terrible community now.
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