EPTStephano suspended by Evil Geniuses - Page 25
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Temerarious Trout
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
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Maxhster
Fiji473 Posts
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lolmlg
619 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:40 CodeskyE wrote: so people are not supposed to be offended because it's the internet? are you sick in the head? you're probably young. you need to educate yourself more. this is about morale and what's right or wrong. internet has nothing to do with that. Time and time and time again, prominent members of the "esports community" have excused their own immature behaviour by suggesting that esports are a young man's pursuit and the world should get used to the idea that you don't need to be refined and distinguished to be successful. And then of course, when someone crosses some imaginary line, the whole thing is reversed, and suddenly someone is too stupid, too reckless, too inflammatory to be accepted into the esports world. Funny how the word "rape" is somehow far over that line when it isn't even said, and meanwhile the word "rape" when explicitly said all over these forums is somehow alright. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:42 nBk wrote: Good move by EG. Business is business and they had to act, regardless if it was a joke or not. Some things you don't just "joke" about anyways, especially not that.. Or at least not publicly when you represent a company.. that's just how jobs work.. I don't see how people don't understand how public life works | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:44 morlakaix wrote: so idra is protected by EG, and stephano isn't unfortunate I must of missed something but did idra say something that was this bad? Like why do people keep referring to idra all the time when something happens? I know that idra can sometimes or comment bad mannered stuff in the games but something new must of happened? | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:45 Maxhster wrote: so should we email sponsors now because idra didnt get suspended? i mean why would they not apply the same standards to all of their players? is it because Stephano is better? because hes a european? why exactly does one get a suspension and the other didnt even get mentioned. For the same infractions in fact, a poor choice of words. Alright wait, can someone explain to me why IdrA is being brought up so much here? Did something of reasonable similarity occur with IdrA? | ||
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Appendix
Sweden979 Posts
I also understand why they would go a little extra hard on Stephano, given his history. Treating him like a golden boy clearly didn't prevent these kind of mishaps on Mill, and to EG image is everything. | ||
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Dali.
New Zealand689 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:39 Larkin wrote: Sigh. Guess people can't say what they like on the internet... No one is stopping him from saying it. The company which pays him ~$100,000 is reprimanding him for something that unfortunately happened to sneak into the public eye. Just because his job is to play a video game doesn't mean that the nature of his conduct shouldn't be held to a level of scrutiny seen in other industries. Be the funny, playful guy he is known to be, but cut the stupid, inflammatory bullshit. | ||
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bOneSeven
Romania685 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Not quite as irresponsible as someone who thinks that having sex with an underage child isn't rape... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape Or did you purposely not read my post for any meaning whatsoever? You don't need to write the word "rape" to mean "rape". Having sex with a child is not rape unless she/he wants/initiates it. I realize if a older girl/guy convinces a minor into sex might be considered abuse since he/she uses the massive intelectual advantage over him/her but if not.....From a logical standpoint it's not rape, don't take law as your arbiter of truth since laws aren't allways correct. Sure this one makes sense most of the times but...You can't prove something is right because it is the law. Just like you can't reasonably prove that it's not okay for you to smoke a funny plant solely on the basis that it is against the law. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Not quite as irresponsible as someone who thinks that having sex with an underage child isn't rape... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape Or did you purposely not read my post for any meaning whatsoever? You don't need to write the word "rape" to mean "rape". Oh, so what you mean to say is that it is "statutory rape", a legal term. Do you know the french term for the same offence? That would seem to be the relevant one here.. Unless, of course, your use of the word rape has nothing to do with the legal definition and you're simply playing to the word rape because of how loaded it is. In any everyday meaning rape implies the use of force.. But the bigger issue is your complete disregard of your own ignorance. You don't know anything about the context of their conversation, yet you are happy to conclude, on the basis of 5-6 lines of text, that Stephano is a rapist, or that he joked about being a rapist. That is on you. Judge and jury (though hopefully not executioner) in the same self-satisfied package. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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SinO[Ob]
France898 Posts
Ego always... | ||
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leandroqm
Netherlands874 Posts
... Damn!! :/ | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:44 Fyodor wrote: Do like STX and only contract people who you have confidence in being mature and professional. If they are young then coach them on how to act. If they don't learn then let them go. I think it's obvious that Korea just has a better gaming culture, in attitude and skill, and when it comes to this kind of "humor." They don't need to be coached like this: "Okay guys, welcome to the team, but for the love of God, do not joke about being a pedophile. I can't stress this enough." | ||
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TheBrainiac
United States75 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:41 Parlortricks wrote: Now see this is the problem with the professional image argument: he was speaking with consideration that it was a private conversation between him and Bling. Are you seriously going to tell me that celebrities maintain their public persona in the privacy of their own home? They don't. Stephano is straddling the line of becoming infamous for his brash nature and in fact stated in an interview after winning WCS Europe that part of his attitude was being fueled by the fans desire for some pseudo-controversy. For those of you who think he was serious, do you think for one god damn minute that if the allegations turned out to be true all he would get would be a two week black out and a slight pay cut? No, he would be flown back to the United States to stand trial and/or get booted from the team. It was obviously a joke given his past history. For me personally, it seems as though he was gunning for some sort of shock value out of Bling which he obviously got. He continued on with his "MILF and children" comment and then realized his mistake. Tbh, I don't think he got a shock value out of BlinG the way most people here are perceiving it. It looks to me that the reason BlinGs facial expression is due to the fact that Stephano said "I didn't realize you were streaming this". Not due to the fact that BlinG literally started to believe what Stephano was saying, unless you are mocking BlinGs intelligence that is... Nobody with at least a little bit of common sense would have took what Stephano said seriously in the least bit. P.S. You should all get off your high horses as well, he is 19 years old, and he is no different then any of us here. We've all bad mannered people, been a dick to someone, or made an inappropriate joke in our lifetimes, probably more often then not. So please, for the love of god, stop making yourselves look like a bunch of ignorant fools. I can't believe there are people actually debating this, it was a JOKE, IT ENDS THERE! | ||
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Microchaton
France342 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:46 Zambrah wrote: Alright wait, can someone explain to me why IdrA is being brought up so much here? Did something of reasonable similarity occur with IdrA? Nope, just retarded fans who incorrectly try to relate two separate incidents. | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:45 SilSol wrote: I must of missed something but did idra say something that was this bad? Like why do people keep referring to idra all the time when something happens? I know that idra can sometimes or comment bad mannered stuff in the games but something new must of happened? Idra said David Kim should get raped with a tire iron. I don't want to discuss which statement is worse. But this was entirely forced by people emailing the sponsors. Its really sad. Stupid trolls are killing esports. | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
That is toooo funny | ||
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