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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On August 30 2012 23:04 MrBitter wrote: ffs, just read the OP. All the details about who we invited and why are right there. MrBitter... how come we didn't invite Flash?! | ||
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
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LordMattias
Sweden10 Posts
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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
1. MC ~2500 2. Violet ~1700 3. Stephano ~1500 4. DRG ~1450 5. MKP ~1400 6. Taeja ~1250 7. MMA ~1150 8. Alive ~1150 9. Puma ~1150 10. Polt ~1050 11. Hero ~1050 12. Nerchio ~1000 13. Ret ~950 14. Alicia ~900 15. Mvp ~850 16. Oz ~700 17. Naniwa ~700 18. Symbol ~700 19. Nestea ~650 20. Dimaga ~650 But those are only rough because the methodology isn't 100% explicit when it comes to in progress tournaments and how the decay works. Those are just rough values to give some kind of indication. Which means Mvp might be the secret invite, or it could be Oz or Naniwa. | ||
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kiy0
Portugal593 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:59 digmouse wrote: Why are they still using invites? The real question is "Why are they NOT using invites?". NASL has been a downright disappointment in terms of regular season attendance and production value. The only thing most people are excited about the NASL is (rightfully so) the Finals. The major reason I believe they have such low viewing ratings it's because there are not enough top-notch players. We're already almost 3 years into Starcraft 2, thus people wanna watch the best facing the best. And lets be honest, you will not stay up late to watch a match like HwangSin vs. Targa. No disrespect to the players at all, it's just a fact they are not the kind of players that would make you stay up. This being said, I completely agree with what NASL is doing. As a matter of fact, I think they should include more invites, gathering more of the top players in the world, thus increasing the amount of trully interesting games. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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cmgillett
United States335 Posts
On August 31 2012 01:05 kiy0 wrote: The real question is "Why are they NOT using invites?". NASL has been a downright disappointment in terms of regular season attendance and production value. The only thing most people are excited about the NASL is (rightfully so) the Finals. The major reason I believe they have such low viewing ratings it's because there are not enough top-notch players. We're already almost 3 years into Starcraft 2, thus people wanna watch the best facing the best. And lets be honest, you will not stay up late to watch a match like HwangSin vs. Targa. No disrespect to the players at all, it's just a fact they are not the kind of players that would make you stay up. This being said, I completely agree with what NASL is doing. As a matter of fact, I think they should include more invites, gathering more of the top players in the world, thus increasing the amount of trully interesting games. 2 seasons ago called, they want their complaints back. NASL last season was great all season, had a very high view count for it being almost nightly. Not sure what you've been watching. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Gwind
Norway1 Post
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
I do like the notion of a ranking of players where consistency in tournaments is valued and can be rewarded with invitations into NASL sesaons. I have no problem with the concept of seeding/invites based on merit and achievement, which is a system that NASL have just adopted. I assume NASL will also have qualifier tournaments as per usual? How many players will actually be in NASL 4? Is that known yet? I also think having a game analysis screen like they now have at MLG is an idea that NASL should definitely adopt. That should become a standard thing at major SC2 tournaments. Also Mr Bitter and his colleagues can have a lot of fun with that! | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
On August 31 2012 01:09 cmgillett wrote: 2 seasons ago called, they want their complaints back. NASL last season was great all season, had a very high view count for it being almost nightly. Not sure what you've been watching. Simple answer is... he hasn't. | ||
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blamekilly
466 Posts
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winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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The_Darkness
United States910 Posts
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FrodaN
754 Posts
On August 31 2012 00:53 Yonnua wrote: I make it something along the lines of: 1. MC ~2500 2. Violet ~1700 3. Stephano ~1500 4. DRG ~1450 5. MKP ~1400 6. Taeja ~1250 7. MMA ~1150 8. Alive ~1150 9. Puma ~1150 10. Polt ~1050 11. Hero ~1050 12. Nerchio ~1000 13. Ret ~950 14. Alicia ~900 15. Mvp ~850 16. Oz ~700 17. Naniwa ~700 18. Symbol ~700 19. Nestea ~650 20. Dimaga ~650 But those are only rough because the methodology isn't 100% explicit when it comes to in progress tournaments and how the decay works. Those are just rough values to give some kind of indication. Which means Mvp might be the secret invite, or it could be Oz or Naniwa. Pretty close idea to the actual list. Nice research On August 31 2012 01:20 revel8 wrote: I do like the notion of a ranking of players where consistency in tournaments is valued and can be rewarded with invitations into NASL sesaons. I have no problem with the concept of seeding/invites based on merit and achievement, which is a system that NASL have just adopted. I assume NASL will also have qualifier tournaments as per usual? How many players will actually be in NASL 4? Is that known yet? I also think having a game analysis screen like they now have at MLG is an idea that NASL should definitely adopt. That should become a standard thing at major SC2 tournaments. Also Mr Bitter and his colleagues can have a lot of fun with that! - Yes we still have qualifiers! We had 3 and our last one will be starting today. - 45. We currently have 44. - I agree. We're working on it  | ||
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kiy0
Portugal593 Posts
On August 31 2012 01:09 cmgillett wrote: 2 seasons ago called, they want their complaints back. NASL last season was great all season, had a very high view count for it being almost nightly. Not sure what you've been watching. I'm sorry, but averaging less than 3k viewers during the regular season is pretty darn mediocre. There are certain players that get way more viewers on their personal stream than "one of the top StarCraft II leagues in NA". Also, your post does not counter mine in anyway shape or form. My argument is that the NASL, in order to actually capture a substantial amount of viewers, at least in comparison to other competitions like IPL or EGMC (i'm obviously not taking the Finals event into account here), you NEED to have a high percentage of top players. Besides Stephano, MC, Hero, Alicia and very few others, there were NOT a lot of top-tier talents in NASL since Season 1, right before most korean teams have withdrawn from participating. I might be wrong, but at the moment, there are not many people who turn on their PCs to watch NASL. It's more like a "Let me check what streams are on... Oh, there's NASL, that's pretty cool..." This move is a step in the right direction. DRG, MMA, Taeja and Violet are amount the top-tier talents in SC2. This is exactly what people want to see. I even think they should go even further with the invites. Try an get players like MVP, NesTea, MarineKing, Leenock, Seed, etc. | ||
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patronage
Iraq123 Posts
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
They update their map pool each season, bring in new casters and raise them up, allow reschedules, air for NA AND EU at separate times, have community updates, quirky humor, showmatches, decent quality, and are now inviting players based on their overall results. Oh I also forgot that they were the first ones to do PiP and Replays if I'm not mistaken. In short, they are doing everything that people bitch about MLG not doing and then some and yet people still hate on them. I no understand? | ||
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