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On August 31 2012 07:18 Leth0 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:08 Kranzor wrote:On August 31 2012 07:06 Syphon8 wrote:On August 31 2012 06:20 BPLOL wrote:
none of you ever show pics of your girls to your friends? Seems like some of you need to become more adult. No, what the hell is wrong with you? Actually nothing. He is just right about that...its not the most rare situation to occur ~~ Let's try and clarify this then. Situation A. Share some nudes with a girl. You could care a less about her , or her feelings so you show the pics to your friends and laugh about how ugly you think she is like the immature jackass you are. -Yea I'm sure this happens a lot, because their are a lot stupid shits out there who are more worried about some type of boasting then showing any amount of respect to another person. Situation B Share some nudes with a girl. You care about her and her feelings, You would never betray her trust by doing something like showing her naked body to your friends for whatever reason. -Yea not a lot of people like this around. So you're right. I'm sure it does happen a lot. What makes this more amusing is that the dipshit from situation A screws himself over when his "private" conversation becomes not so private. "Oh you don't understand, I was being an immature prick behind closed doors" Nice, but nobody cares. You show zero respect for someone and take it farther by actually taking the time out to ridicule them. Then you act surprised when that shit comes back to bite you in the ass? Come on. What kind of stupid prick puts himself in that situation then tries to claim the moral highground, like he should be put on some pedestal. Respect isn't just a "some of the time" kind of thing. It's not like makeup you put on before going out for the night, or something you try to do when your at MLG. It's just common fucking decent respect for people. This is such an obvious lesson to be taken away from this, but I severely doubt a person as narcissistic as Destiny will ever learn that lesson, no matter how hard it slaps him in the face.
This.
And to all those dudes that openly admit to having done the same thing as Destiny: Grow the fuck up. Seriously.
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On August 31 2012 07:44 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:34 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 31 2012 07:32 Falling wrote:2) I'm sure you've NEVER had private conversations about someone when they weren't present. I'm sure that if you did, you went to them and told them right away. Although I doubt you'll be able to read this from all the up on that high horse. This rather downplays the betrayal of trust. I mean sure, if you don`t have nude pics of yourself, it can`t possibly get out there. But that goes for Destiny too. Simply taking nude pics of yourself creates a vulnerability if the celebrity cell phone pic craze is any indication. But it`s not just having a private conversation. I don`t subscribe to her method of dealing with it either. But I disagree with your suggestion that what Destiny did was perfectly acceptable. And that if you hadn`t behaved like Destiny, you`re on some sort of moral high horse. Well to take a hypothetical let's say Incontrol or somebody big in the community cheats on his partner and gets removed from their team for 'shaming the brand'. That's objectionable behaviour too, but would you really want somebody fired from their job for doing such a thing? Not many here are claiming that Destiny did nothing wrong, but many of us feel they were acts that were divorced from his public role as a representative of ROOT and their affiliated sponsors and thus he shouldn't face such sanctions. (Btw Inc, using you as an example, obviously wouldn't suspect you of such shenanigans. Would I want it? No probably not. But I would rather understand it if really was significant shenanigans. I`m sure people have brought this up even though it`s waaaaay out of our league. But when Tiger Woods lost a bunch of sponsorships, I`m not sitting there cheering his (temporary) hit in popularity. But I am also thinking he`s a douche and I understand why sponsors aren`t exactly wanting to back him. But Destiny has always embraced living on the border between acceptable and unacceptable. It`s where he thrives. But he also courts controversy and riling up a lot of people for a variety of times he`s crossed the border too deep or too often. At this point in his a career, he`s a walking controversy machine so I`m not at all surprised to seem him dropped. I think it`s too bad, but I also think it`s the risk he has always run. Consider, someone like Tyler would have to some serious shenanigans to rile up people. And I don`t think Destiny has ever wanted to be a chill Nony and that`s fine. But there are different risks to run.
Oh for sure I do agree with much of what you said, but equally E-sports figures tend not to portray themselves as being saints in the same way Tiger did. His marketing machine was predicated on him being a good, upstanding kind of guy so when that was proven to be false I had no sympathy with him.
Destiny on the other hand, to me at least made no such claim. I suppose it's the way of the world to demand people be role models on top of whatever other duties they have and must be approached as such. Pretty sad though
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On August 31 2012 07:44 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:23 Ozcollo wrote:On August 31 2012 06:59 iky43210 wrote:On August 31 2012 06:54 Mutation wrote:
Ok, so what has Destiny done to upset the sponsors? well, lets see. 1) A dick pics for the world to see. 2) immature talks and blatant childish act / disrespectful of others privacy 3) overreacting response on public note. It doesn't matter if the conversation was private or public, or that the leak of the fact that he send dicks to random fangirl was not his intention, but the sponsors and team images have been as a result. Fairly good reasons to be pissed about. The whys and hows don't really matter 1) A woman used an email password to reset his skype/twitter/facebook passwords and take control of the accounts. She then uses them to circulate explicit photographs and private conversations. That's borderline stalker behavior and lead to events that were out of his control. 2) I'm sure you've NEVER had private conversations about someone when they weren't present. I'm sure that if you did, you went to them and told them right away. Although I doubt you'll be able to read this from all the up on that high horse. 3) He just had his dick posted for the entire world to see after having all control removed from tools he uses to help make a living. He was also making decent progress at a tournament he wanted to succeed at but had to forfeit because of events out of his control. He's had to deal with a large population of illiterate people who had knee-jerk reactions and accused him of distributing child pornography. Not to mention people completely trashing his character and imposing their morals on him behind a veil of anonymity. Not to mention trolls who have absolutely no idea what Starcraft 2 or the context of events mailing sponsors. His threat to contact her place of work/school was lame, but otherwise he had the reaction of a lot of normal people and it's justified to me. The whys and hows should absolutely matter in this incident. Like I've told you before, believe it or not, in a lot of groups of close friends, the sharing of photos in private like that is the norm. The absolute worst part of this entire situation is that if the roles were reversed and Steven was the one that made unauthorized access to a woman's accounts and made her photographs public, there would be VERY few of you that would actually stand up for him. It's absolutely insane the number of people in this thread and on Reddit that believe she was justified in how she handled the situation (This isn't directed at you, I can't remember your thoughts on this subject, sorry). missed the point. whys and hows barely matters to sponsors and teams I'm sure alot of group of friends are also crack racists jokes in their small circle, doesn't mean it won't be hugely frown upon if some celebrities/stars/employee did it and got caught this is not the first time, in fact its incredibly common, for players or even average day employees to be fired or penalized for these kind of behavior.Anyway, disregarding sponsors, the line between private and public no longer exists once its out there. Just because you're a jackass in discrete, doesn't mean people will tolerate it once its blown \
Lol? What? No it's not. Maybe celebrities, but they don't get fired or penalized. They just get more publicity. And it's almost as if to imply that it's even right that hundreds of upset posters e-mailing sponsors over any trivial bullshit drama is justifiable and okay.
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On August 31 2012 07:53 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:44 iky43210 wrote:On August 31 2012 07:23 Ozcollo wrote:On August 31 2012 06:59 iky43210 wrote:On August 31 2012 06:54 Mutation wrote:
Ok, so what has Destiny done to upset the sponsors? well, lets see. 1) A dick pics for the world to see. 2) immature talks and blatant childish act / disrespectful of others privacy 3) overreacting response on public note. It doesn't matter if the conversation was private or public, or that the leak of the fact that he send dicks to random fangirl was not his intention, but the sponsors and team images have been as a result. Fairly good reasons to be pissed about. The whys and hows don't really matter 1) A woman used an email password to reset his skype/twitter/facebook passwords and take control of the accounts. She then uses them to circulate explicit photographs and private conversations. That's borderline stalker behavior and lead to events that were out of his control. 2) I'm sure you've NEVER had private conversations about someone when they weren't present. I'm sure that if you did, you went to them and told them right away. Although I doubt you'll be able to read this from all the up on that high horse. 3) He just had his dick posted for the entire world to see after having all control removed from tools he uses to help make a living. He was also making decent progress at a tournament he wanted to succeed at but had to forfeit because of events out of his control. He's had to deal with a large population of illiterate people who had knee-jerk reactions and accused him of distributing child pornography. Not to mention people completely trashing his character and imposing their morals on him behind a veil of anonymity. Not to mention trolls who have absolutely no idea what Starcraft 2 or the context of events mailing sponsors. His threat to contact her place of work/school was lame, but otherwise he had the reaction of a lot of normal people and it's justified to me. The whys and hows should absolutely matter in this incident. Like I've told you before, believe it or not, in a lot of groups of close friends, the sharing of photos in private like that is the norm. The absolute worst part of this entire situation is that if the roles were reversed and Steven was the one that made unauthorized access to a woman's accounts and made her photographs public, there would be VERY few of you that would actually stand up for him. It's absolutely insane the number of people in this thread and on Reddit that believe she was justified in how she handled the situation (This isn't directed at you, I can't remember your thoughts on this subject, sorry). missed the point. whys and hows barely matters to sponsors and teams I'm sure alot of group of friends are also crack racists jokes in their small circle, doesn't mean it won't be hugely frown upon if some celebrities/stars/employee did it and got caught this is not the first time, in fact its incredibly common, for players or even average day employees to be fired or penalized for these kind of behavior.Anyway, disregarding sponsors, the line between private and public no longer exists once its out there. Just because you're a jackass in discrete, doesn't mean people will tolerate it once its blown \ Lol? What? No it's not. Maybe celebrities, but they don't get fired or penalized. They just get more publicity. And it's almost as if to imply that it's even right that hundreds of upset posters e-mailing sponsors over any trivial bullshit drama is justifiable and okay.
Kim Kardashian has a sex tape leaked, makes more money. Destiny gets a picture of his dick leaked, gets fired from his team.
In trying to 'legitimise' E-sports we really seem to be trying to uphold standards that don't even apply in other industries, especially entertainment.
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Doesn't destiny have a son? This kind of drama is funny and all for teenagers but he should really mature up and represent himself like others in the community.
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On August 31 2012 07:54 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:53 rd wrote:On August 31 2012 07:44 iky43210 wrote:On August 31 2012 07:23 Ozcollo wrote:On August 31 2012 06:59 iky43210 wrote:On August 31 2012 06:54 Mutation wrote:
Ok, so what has Destiny done to upset the sponsors? well, lets see. 1) A dick pics for the world to see. 2) immature talks and blatant childish act / disrespectful of others privacy 3) overreacting response on public note. It doesn't matter if the conversation was private or public, or that the leak of the fact that he send dicks to random fangirl was not his intention, but the sponsors and team images have been as a result. Fairly good reasons to be pissed about. The whys and hows don't really matter 1) A woman used an email password to reset his skype/twitter/facebook passwords and take control of the accounts. She then uses them to circulate explicit photographs and private conversations. That's borderline stalker behavior and lead to events that were out of his control. 2) I'm sure you've NEVER had private conversations about someone when they weren't present. I'm sure that if you did, you went to them and told them right away. Although I doubt you'll be able to read this from all the up on that high horse. 3) He just had his dick posted for the entire world to see after having all control removed from tools he uses to help make a living. He was also making decent progress at a tournament he wanted to succeed at but had to forfeit because of events out of his control. He's had to deal with a large population of illiterate people who had knee-jerk reactions and accused him of distributing child pornography. Not to mention people completely trashing his character and imposing their morals on him behind a veil of anonymity. Not to mention trolls who have absolutely no idea what Starcraft 2 or the context of events mailing sponsors. His threat to contact her place of work/school was lame, but otherwise he had the reaction of a lot of normal people and it's justified to me. The whys and hows should absolutely matter in this incident. Like I've told you before, believe it or not, in a lot of groups of close friends, the sharing of photos in private like that is the norm. The absolute worst part of this entire situation is that if the roles were reversed and Steven was the one that made unauthorized access to a woman's accounts and made her photographs public, there would be VERY few of you that would actually stand up for him. It's absolutely insane the number of people in this thread and on Reddit that believe she was justified in how she handled the situation (This isn't directed at you, I can't remember your thoughts on this subject, sorry). missed the point. whys and hows barely matters to sponsors and teams I'm sure alot of group of friends are also crack racists jokes in their small circle, doesn't mean it won't be hugely frown upon if some celebrities/stars/employee did it and got caught this is not the first time, in fact its incredibly common, for players or even average day employees to be fired or penalized for these kind of behavior.Anyway, disregarding sponsors, the line between private and public no longer exists once its out there. Just because you're a jackass in discrete, doesn't mean people will tolerate it once its blown \ Lol? What? No it's not. Maybe celebrities, but they don't get fired or penalized. They just get more publicity. And it's almost as if to imply that it's even right that hundreds of upset posters e-mailing sponsors over any trivial bullshit drama is justifiable and okay. Kim Kardashian has a sex tape leaked, makes more money. Destiny gets a picture of his dick leaked, gets fired from his team. In trying to 'legitimise' E-sports we really seem to be trying to uphold standards that don't even apply in other industries, especially entertainment.
I'm not the one who made the comparison, which was incorrect and absurd to begin with.
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What Destiny and his friends talk about and do in private is their own damn business. It's unfortunate that many of you are ready to lynch him about sharing a nude picture with his friends. Get off your high horses - I'm certain there are things you do in private that people would look down on you for as well.
Bottom line is that this chick was incredibly out of line hacking his twitter and posting a picture of his dick to ~37k people. That's beyond unforgivable.
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On August 31 2012 07:48 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:18 Leth0 wrote:On August 31 2012 07:08 Kranzor wrote:On August 31 2012 07:06 Syphon8 wrote:On August 31 2012 06:20 BPLOL wrote:
none of you ever show pics of your girls to your friends? Seems like some of you need to become more adult. No, what the hell is wrong with you? Actually nothing. He is just right about that...its not the most rare situation to occur ~~ Let's try and clarify this then. Situation A. Share some nudes with a girl. You could care a less about her , or her feelings so you show the pics to your friends and laugh about how ugly you think she is like the immature jackass you are. -Yea I'm sure this happens a lot, because their are a lot stupid shits out there who are more worried about some type of boasting then showing any amount of respect to another person. Situation B Share some nudes with a girl. You care about her and her feelings, You would never betray her trust by doing something like showing her naked body to your friends for whatever reason. -Yea not a lot of people like this around. So you're right. I'm sure it does happen a lot. What makes this more amusing is that the dipshit from situation A screws himself over when his "private" conversation becomes not so private. "Oh you don't understand, I was being an immature prick behind closed doors" Nice, but nobody cares. You show zero respect for someone and take it farther by actually taking the time out to ridicule them. Then you act surprised when that shit comes back to bite you in the ass? Come on. What kind of stupid prick puts himself in that situation then tries to claim the moral highground, like he should be put on some pedestal. Respect isn't just a "some of the time" kind of thing. It's not like makeup you put on before going out for the night, or something you try to do when your at MLG. It's just common fucking decent respect for people. This is such an obvious lesson to be taken away from this, but I severely doubt a person as narcissistic as Destiny will ever learn that lesson, no matter how hard it slaps him in the face. This. And to all those dudes that openly admit to having done the same thing as Destiny: Grow the fuck up. Seriously.
If you put me in Situation A right now meaning I got a nude pic from someone I pretty much dont care about and my friends do not know that person I will show them that picture most certainly and have no moral regrets. Shame on me I guess, but I'm pretty sure most people would do exacly the same. And even most of the moralfags would probably do it if they are in that situation.
If they know her and she might get in trouble for that it might be another story.
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On August 31 2012 07:54 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:53 rd wrote:On August 31 2012 07:44 iky43210 wrote:On August 31 2012 07:23 Ozcollo wrote:On August 31 2012 06:59 iky43210 wrote:On August 31 2012 06:54 Mutation wrote:
Ok, so what has Destiny done to upset the sponsors? well, lets see. 1) A dick pics for the world to see. 2) immature talks and blatant childish act / disrespectful of others privacy 3) overreacting response on public note. It doesn't matter if the conversation was private or public, or that the leak of the fact that he send dicks to random fangirl was not his intention, but the sponsors and team images have been as a result. Fairly good reasons to be pissed about. The whys and hows don't really matter 1) A woman used an email password to reset his skype/twitter/facebook passwords and take control of the accounts. She then uses them to circulate explicit photographs and private conversations. That's borderline stalker behavior and lead to events that were out of his control. 2) I'm sure you've NEVER had private conversations about someone when they weren't present. I'm sure that if you did, you went to them and told them right away. Although I doubt you'll be able to read this from all the up on that high horse. 3) He just had his dick posted for the entire world to see after having all control removed from tools he uses to help make a living. He was also making decent progress at a tournament he wanted to succeed at but had to forfeit because of events out of his control. He's had to deal with a large population of illiterate people who had knee-jerk reactions and accused him of distributing child pornography. Not to mention people completely trashing his character and imposing their morals on him behind a veil of anonymity. Not to mention trolls who have absolutely no idea what Starcraft 2 or the context of events mailing sponsors. His threat to contact her place of work/school was lame, but otherwise he had the reaction of a lot of normal people and it's justified to me. The whys and hows should absolutely matter in this incident. Like I've told you before, believe it or not, in a lot of groups of close friends, the sharing of photos in private like that is the norm. The absolute worst part of this entire situation is that if the roles were reversed and Steven was the one that made unauthorized access to a woman's accounts and made her photographs public, there would be VERY few of you that would actually stand up for him. It's absolutely insane the number of people in this thread and on Reddit that believe she was justified in how she handled the situation (This isn't directed at you, I can't remember your thoughts on this subject, sorry). missed the point. whys and hows barely matters to sponsors and teams I'm sure alot of group of friends are also crack racists jokes in their small circle, doesn't mean it won't be hugely frown upon if some celebrities/stars/employee did it and got caught this is not the first time, in fact its incredibly common, for players or even average day employees to be fired or penalized for these kind of behavior.Anyway, disregarding sponsors, the line between private and public no longer exists once its out there. Just because you're a jackass in discrete, doesn't mean people will tolerate it once its blown \ Lol? What? No it's not. Maybe celebrities, but they don't get fired or penalized. They just get more publicity. And it's almost as if to imply that it's even right that hundreds of upset posters e-mailing sponsors over any trivial bullshit drama is justifiable and okay. Kim Kardashian has a sex tape leaked, makes more money. Destiny gets a picture of his dick leaked, gets fired from his team. In trying to 'legitimise' E-sports we really seem to be trying to uphold standards that don't even apply in other industries, especially entertainment.
Well that's a big difference between the 2 persons and their career. 
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On August 31 2012 07:55 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:54 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 31 2012 07:53 rd wrote:On August 31 2012 07:44 iky43210 wrote:On August 31 2012 07:23 Ozcollo wrote:On August 31 2012 06:59 iky43210 wrote:On August 31 2012 06:54 Mutation wrote:
Ok, so what has Destiny done to upset the sponsors? well, lets see. 1) A dick pics for the world to see. 2) immature talks and blatant childish act / disrespectful of others privacy 3) overreacting response on public note. It doesn't matter if the conversation was private or public, or that the leak of the fact that he send dicks to random fangirl was not his intention, but the sponsors and team images have been as a result. Fairly good reasons to be pissed about. The whys and hows don't really matter 1) A woman used an email password to reset his skype/twitter/facebook passwords and take control of the accounts. She then uses them to circulate explicit photographs and private conversations. That's borderline stalker behavior and lead to events that were out of his control. 2) I'm sure you've NEVER had private conversations about someone when they weren't present. I'm sure that if you did, you went to them and told them right away. Although I doubt you'll be able to read this from all the up on that high horse. 3) He just had his dick posted for the entire world to see after having all control removed from tools he uses to help make a living. He was also making decent progress at a tournament he wanted to succeed at but had to forfeit because of events out of his control. He's had to deal with a large population of illiterate people who had knee-jerk reactions and accused him of distributing child pornography. Not to mention people completely trashing his character and imposing their morals on him behind a veil of anonymity. Not to mention trolls who have absolutely no idea what Starcraft 2 or the context of events mailing sponsors. His threat to contact her place of work/school was lame, but otherwise he had the reaction of a lot of normal people and it's justified to me. The whys and hows should absolutely matter in this incident. Like I've told you before, believe it or not, in a lot of groups of close friends, the sharing of photos in private like that is the norm. The absolute worst part of this entire situation is that if the roles were reversed and Steven was the one that made unauthorized access to a woman's accounts and made her photographs public, there would be VERY few of you that would actually stand up for him. It's absolutely insane the number of people in this thread and on Reddit that believe she was justified in how she handled the situation (This isn't directed at you, I can't remember your thoughts on this subject, sorry). missed the point. whys and hows barely matters to sponsors and teams I'm sure alot of group of friends are also crack racists jokes in their small circle, doesn't mean it won't be hugely frown upon if some celebrities/stars/employee did it and got caught this is not the first time, in fact its incredibly common, for players or even average day employees to be fired or penalized for these kind of behavior.Anyway, disregarding sponsors, the line between private and public no longer exists once its out there. Just because you're a jackass in discrete, doesn't mean people will tolerate it once its blown \ Lol? What? No it's not. Maybe celebrities, but they don't get fired or penalized. They just get more publicity. And it's almost as if to imply that it's even right that hundreds of upset posters e-mailing sponsors over any trivial bullshit drama is justifiable and okay. Kim Kardashian has a sex tape leaked, makes more money. Destiny gets a picture of his dick leaked, gets fired from his team. In trying to 'legitimise' E-sports we really seem to be trying to uphold standards that don't even apply in other industries, especially entertainment. I'm not the one who made the comparison, which was incorrect and absurd to begin with.
Yeah I was just building on your point, which I felt was a good one.
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On August 31 2012 07:34 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:32 Falling wrote:2) I'm sure you've NEVER had private conversations about someone when they weren't present. I'm sure that if you did, you went to them and told them right away. Although I doubt you'll be able to read this from all the up on that high horse. This rather downplays the betrayal of trust. I mean sure, if you don`t have nude pics of yourself, it can`t possibly get out there. But that goes for Destiny too. Simply taking nude pics of yourself creates a vulnerability if the celebrity cell phone pic craze is any indication. But it`s not just having a private conversation. I don`t subscribe to her method of dealing with it either. But I disagree with your suggestion that what Destiny did was perfectly acceptable. And that if you hadn`t behaved like Destiny, you`re on some sort of moral high horse. Well to take a hypothetical let's say Incontrol or somebody big in the community cheats on his partner and gets removed from their team for 'shaming the brand'. That's objectionable behaviour too, but would you really want somebody fired from their job for doing such a thing? Not many here are claiming that Destiny did nothing wrong, but many of us feel they were acts that were divorced from his public role as a representative of ROOT and their affiliated sponsors and thus he shouldn't face such sanctions. (Btw Inc, using you as an example, obviously wouldn't suspect you of such shenanigans.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Tiger Woods dude? Same thing, but on a MUCH smaller scale...
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On August 31 2012 07:57 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:55 rd wrote:On August 31 2012 07:54 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 31 2012 07:53 rd wrote:On August 31 2012 07:44 iky43210 wrote:On August 31 2012 07:23 Ozcollo wrote:On August 31 2012 06:59 iky43210 wrote:On August 31 2012 06:54 Mutation wrote:
Ok, so what has Destiny done to upset the sponsors? well, lets see. 1) A dick pics for the world to see. 2) immature talks and blatant childish act / disrespectful of others privacy 3) overreacting response on public note. It doesn't matter if the conversation was private or public, or that the leak of the fact that he send dicks to random fangirl was not his intention, but the sponsors and team images have been as a result. Fairly good reasons to be pissed about. The whys and hows don't really matter 1) A woman used an email password to reset his skype/twitter/facebook passwords and take control of the accounts. She then uses them to circulate explicit photographs and private conversations. That's borderline stalker behavior and lead to events that were out of his control. 2) I'm sure you've NEVER had private conversations about someone when they weren't present. I'm sure that if you did, you went to them and told them right away. Although I doubt you'll be able to read this from all the up on that high horse. 3) He just had his dick posted for the entire world to see after having all control removed from tools he uses to help make a living. He was also making decent progress at a tournament he wanted to succeed at but had to forfeit because of events out of his control. He's had to deal with a large population of illiterate people who had knee-jerk reactions and accused him of distributing child pornography. Not to mention people completely trashing his character and imposing their morals on him behind a veil of anonymity. Not to mention trolls who have absolutely no idea what Starcraft 2 or the context of events mailing sponsors. His threat to contact her place of work/school was lame, but otherwise he had the reaction of a lot of normal people and it's justified to me. The whys and hows should absolutely matter in this incident. Like I've told you before, believe it or not, in a lot of groups of close friends, the sharing of photos in private like that is the norm. The absolute worst part of this entire situation is that if the roles were reversed and Steven was the one that made unauthorized access to a woman's accounts and made her photographs public, there would be VERY few of you that would actually stand up for him. It's absolutely insane the number of people in this thread and on Reddit that believe she was justified in how she handled the situation (This isn't directed at you, I can't remember your thoughts on this subject, sorry). missed the point. whys and hows barely matters to sponsors and teams I'm sure alot of group of friends are also crack racists jokes in their small circle, doesn't mean it won't be hugely frown upon if some celebrities/stars/employee did it and got caught this is not the first time, in fact its incredibly common, for players or even average day employees to be fired or penalized for these kind of behavior.Anyway, disregarding sponsors, the line between private and public no longer exists once its out there. Just because you're a jackass in discrete, doesn't mean people will tolerate it once its blown \ Lol? What? No it's not. Maybe celebrities, but they don't get fired or penalized. They just get more publicity. And it's almost as if to imply that it's even right that hundreds of upset posters e-mailing sponsors over any trivial bullshit drama is justifiable and okay. Kim Kardashian has a sex tape leaked, makes more money. Destiny gets a picture of his dick leaked, gets fired from his team. In trying to 'legitimise' E-sports we really seem to be trying to uphold standards that don't even apply in other industries, especially entertainment. I'm not the one who made the comparison, which was incorrect and absurd to begin with. Yeah I was just building on your point, which I felt was a good one.
Oh, well, it'd appear it confused more than just me. :S
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On August 31 2012 07:55 Kal_rA wrote:
Doesn't destiny have a son? This kind of drama is funny and all for teenagers but he should really mature up and represent himself like others in the community.
Destiny has little control over someone else posting nude pictures of him over the internet, and little control over a feminist group deliberately attacking his career with a blatantly dishonest letter bomb campaign.
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On August 31 2012 07:59 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:34 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 31 2012 07:32 Falling wrote:2) I'm sure you've NEVER had private conversations about someone when they weren't present. I'm sure that if you did, you went to them and told them right away. Although I doubt you'll be able to read this from all the up on that high horse. This rather downplays the betrayal of trust. I mean sure, if you don`t have nude pics of yourself, it can`t possibly get out there. But that goes for Destiny too. Simply taking nude pics of yourself creates a vulnerability if the celebrity cell phone pic craze is any indication. But it`s not just having a private conversation. I don`t subscribe to her method of dealing with it either. But I disagree with your suggestion that what Destiny did was perfectly acceptable. And that if you hadn`t behaved like Destiny, you`re on some sort of moral high horse. Well to take a hypothetical let's say Incontrol or somebody big in the community cheats on his partner and gets removed from their team for 'shaming the brand'. That's objectionable behaviour too, but would you really want somebody fired from their job for doing such a thing? Not many here are claiming that Destiny did nothing wrong, but many of us feel they were acts that were divorced from his public role as a representative of ROOT and their affiliated sponsors and thus he shouldn't face such sanctions. (Btw Inc, using you as an example, obviously wouldn't suspect you of such shenanigans. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Tiger Woods dude? Same thing, but on a MUCH smaller scale...
I addressed Tiger Woods in this thread at least 3 or 4 times. That guy GOT those endorsements by playing the good guy, and basing his image around that. People in E-sports make no such claims of moral integrity on the whole
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On August 31 2012 07:48 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:18 Leth0 wrote:On August 31 2012 07:08 Kranzor wrote:On August 31 2012 07:06 Syphon8 wrote:On August 31 2012 06:20 BPLOL wrote:
none of you ever show pics of your girls to your friends? Seems like some of you need to become more adult. No, what the hell is wrong with you? Actually nothing. He is just right about that...its not the most rare situation to occur ~~ Let's try and clarify this then. Situation A. Share some nudes with a girl. You could care a less about her , or her feelings so you show the pics to your friends and laugh about how ugly you think she is like the immature jackass you are. -Yea I'm sure this happens a lot, because their are a lot stupid shits out there who are more worried about some type of boasting then showing any amount of respect to another person. Situation B Share some nudes with a girl. You care about her and her feelings, You would never betray her trust by doing something like showing her naked body to your friends for whatever reason. -Yea not a lot of people like this around. So you're right. I'm sure it does happen a lot. What makes this more amusing is that the dipshit from situation A screws himself over when his "private" conversation becomes not so private. "Oh you don't understand, I was being an immature prick behind closed doors" Nice, but nobody cares. You show zero respect for someone and take it farther by actually taking the time out to ridicule them. Then you act surprised when that shit comes back to bite you in the ass? Come on. What kind of stupid prick puts himself in that situation then tries to claim the moral highground, like he should be put on some pedestal. Respect isn't just a "some of the time" kind of thing. It's not like makeup you put on before going out for the night, or something you try to do when your at MLG. It's just common fucking decent respect for people. This is such an obvious lesson to be taken away from this, but I severely doubt a person as narcissistic as Destiny will ever learn that lesson, no matter how hard it slaps him in the face. This. And to all those dudes that openly admit to having done the same thing as Destiny: Grow the fuck up. Seriously.
It seems like there are a lot of people around here really try to figure out what "growing up" is all about but fail miserably.
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On August 31 2012 07:55 Radin wrote:
What Destiny and his friends talk about and do in private is their own damn business. It's unfortunate that many of you are ready to lynch him about sharing a nude picture with his friends. Get off your high horses - I'm certain there are things you do in private that people would look down on you for as well.
Bottom line is that this chick was incredibly out of line hacking his twitter and posting a picture of his dick to ~37k people. That's beyond unforgivable.
Thats beyond unforgivable?I fully support the move from the girl,deserves him right.
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On August 31 2012 07:36 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:35 CrtBalorda wrote:
ROFL!? In my opinnion the girl is 1000 times more in the wrong then destiny, if destiny is even in the wrong at all.
Besides cant destiny sue her or something? lol It is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get most Western judicial systems to take female criminals seriously, because our society does not consider women responsible for their own actions.
You idiot
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On August 31 2012 08:01 GiftPflanZe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:55 Radin wrote:
What Destiny and his friends talk about and do in private is their own damn business. It's unfortunate that many of you are ready to lynch him about sharing a nude picture with his friends. Get off your high horses - I'm certain there are things you do in private that people would look down on you for as well.
Bottom line is that this chick was incredibly out of line hacking his twitter and posting a picture of his dick to ~37k people. That's beyond unforgivable. Thats beyond unforgivable?I fully support the move from the girl,deserves him right.
Would you elaborate why you support that?
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On August 31 2012 08:02 RoyW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:36 sunprince wrote:On August 31 2012 07:35 CrtBalorda wrote:
ROFL!? In my opinnion the girl is 1000 times more in the wrong then destiny, if destiny is even in the wrong at all.
Besides cant destiny sue her or something? lol It is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get most Western judicial systems to take female criminals seriously, because our society does not consider women responsible for their own actions. You idiot
Nice logic.
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On August 31 2012 07:55 Kranzor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:48 Conti wrote:On August 31 2012 07:18 Leth0 wrote:On August 31 2012 07:08 Kranzor wrote:On August 31 2012 07:06 Syphon8 wrote:On August 31 2012 06:20 BPLOL wrote:
none of you ever show pics of your girls to your friends? Seems like some of you need to become more adult. No, what the hell is wrong with you? Actually nothing. He is just right about that...its not the most rare situation to occur ~~ Let's try and clarify this then. Situation A. Share some nudes with a girl. You could care a less about her , or her feelings so you show the pics to your friends and laugh about how ugly you think she is like the immature jackass you are. -Yea I'm sure this happens a lot, because their are a lot stupid shits out there who are more worried about some type of boasting then showing any amount of respect to another person. Situation B Share some nudes with a girl. You care about her and her feelings, You would never betray her trust by doing something like showing her naked body to your friends for whatever reason. -Yea not a lot of people like this around. So you're right. I'm sure it does happen a lot. What makes this more amusing is that the dipshit from situation A screws himself over when his "private" conversation becomes not so private. "Oh you don't understand, I was being an immature prick behind closed doors" Nice, but nobody cares. You show zero respect for someone and take it farther by actually taking the time out to ridicule them. Then you act surprised when that shit comes back to bite you in the ass? Come on. What kind of stupid prick puts himself in that situation then tries to claim the moral highground, like he should be put on some pedestal. Respect isn't just a "some of the time" kind of thing. It's not like makeup you put on before going out for the night, or something you try to do when your at MLG. It's just common fucking decent respect for people. This is such an obvious lesson to be taken away from this, but I severely doubt a person as narcissistic as Destiny will ever learn that lesson, no matter how hard it slaps him in the face. This. And to all those dudes that openly admit to having done the same thing as Destiny: Grow the fuck up. Seriously. If you put me in Situation A right now meaning I got a nude pic from someone I pretty much dont care about and my friends do not know that person I will show them that picture most certainly and have no moral regrets. Shame on me I guess, but I'm pretty sure most people would do exacly the same. And even most of the moralfags would probably do it if they are in that situation. If they know her and she might get in trouble for that it might be another story.
Then, just like Destiny, you deserve all the possible negative consequences you might earn from your actions.
Also.. "moralfags"? I don't even..
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