On August 23 2012 02:10 Makro wrote: i'm ready for this, the group A with taeja and seed will be insane, and the one with stephano and oz too, i hope that stephy will be first
I think you misread it or I am missing a joke, Seed is not at MLG. Or he plays in every group which would be quite insane.
I have never heard of either Gix, Binski or Caliber and I watch SC2 every day... Should be a fun tournament but you have to wonder how they managed to get into the groups.
Seed sure has a lot of matches to play, ok jk that was bad it's weird not seeing some of the big names in group stage and instead seeing some new players...! i like it though!
On August 23 2012 00:49 a9arnn wrote: Edit: Cool Binski AND Caliber!!! LighT fighting!!!
sad days for MLG. Sad day for the community that so few ppl even notice that. Never thought that seeding would get out of control like that. I always was against seeding ppl who didn't qualifier for it and don't have any other proof to legitimate seeding them over other open bracket players. What's next? Do we have a raffle at next MLG to get some fans seeded in the groups?
To be clear: i don't have anything against those invited players like Binski and Caliber, and its definitely not their fault that they are invited! I also like that the local players gets supported but this is NOT the right way.
You need to calm down. Maybe do a little research before posting?
binski and Caliber were seeded as they are from their results in the Summer Arena American Invite-Only Qualifier. Caliber was a single game away from qualifying for Summer Arena (losing to Sheth 1-2 in the final round) and binski was 1 round away. giX was in the same position as Caliber.
And just FYI, they all made it farther than HuK.
Can you link me any source for your claims? I read the official announcements. I can't remember reading anything about that. I trust in liquipedia until you give me your sources: Seeds: Top 16 players of 2012 MLG Summer Arena are seeded into Group Play. A further 8 invited players are seeded into Group Play.
If it is true what you are saying it is even more confusing. Why would you seed players who actually not even qualified for the arena. This wouldn't even make sense or be fair in any way. You could take the top 24 players from the arena or smth like that.
MLG Arena players 17-32 are not given free trips to MLG -- so very few/none of them accepted their invites. Then MLG goes down the list of the next highest people (I.e. binski / caliber who were both 1 round away from Arena) and they got invited. Since they were going to be at MLG anyway, they got the seeds.
This is a explanation that makes sense to some extent but you don't link a source either. Is this your assumption or did you hear that from MLG? In the sources i trust they still state that there are 8 invited players. They are also a lot of other scenarios that seem possible to me. I guess the Kespa players would not have payed for their flight tickets on their own. As a result you can also argue that MLG could have flown in some good foreigners. But this is not the point i was making. I am just saying that this seems to be the worst sulotion and i listed some ideas in further posts that are better imho.
I don't get what's so hard to understand, there's no reason for you to be a massive dick.
Like i posted before its nothing personal against players from LighT. Did I get personal or insult you? Or is it normal for you to call random ppl out to be a massive dick?
MLG pays for the flights for the top 16 of Arena. 17-32 earn high seeds in open bracket but don't have their flights paid for - this is common knowledge. There were to be 8 invited players (people assume they were to be KeSPA pros), it doesn't really matter who they were, but for whatever reason the players they wanted to invite didn't come.
So the next step is to invite people from qualifiers, using an objective method. Look at Liquipedia to see the rankings from the Arena qualifiers, then say it doesn't make sense.
Think about it logically... they need to fill the groups, they have to use some kind of objective method to do it. What are the chances a European will fly to MLG on <1 week notice? Probably 0. What are the chances that an NA player will come to MLG, probably 100% since they're coming anyway. You're not even thinking about this - and insulting the people that are in pool play just because you don't know them and it seems "random" to you even though it's not random at all.
On August 23 2012 00:20 Nimic wrote: Well, that's a bit disappointing. This MLG went from "must watch" to "might watch".
Agree. There is no much to watch.
The line-up is ok, I guess. It's just that the other tournaments going on right now and tournaments that are about to start, especially in Korea, have much stronger line-ups.
On August 23 2012 02:05 SeggsyLori wrote: Binski, Caliber, Sasquash, Gix? Never heared of them WTF!??!?!
Binski and Caliber are on LighT and both really great players, im expecting them to do really well Sasquash is in the CoL academy and Gix is on Legion
these 4 players are really good up and comers that can really hold there own. Dont doubt them. Im sure there going to show there true talent here
i'll give you Gix, and possibly Sasquash, but Caliber and Binski will fall at the first non NA pro
Last MLG, Caliber was knocked out by Hawke, who went 2:1 against Monster, and Monster had an amazing run that tournament. Binski was knocked out by Illusion, who is flat out really good.
Seems a bit Korean heavy. Each MLG there are less NA at the higher levels. I usually switch off after Championship Sunday becomes all Korean. Hopefully Stephano can go all the way to the finals so I keep my eyes on it. In other news- the Blizz WC should be awesome!
Oh man dat invite list?! o_O No wonder MLG didn't do any hyping like anaheim. I should have known MLG never holds back hype if something big is going down, so no hype should have been warning sign. I'm disappointed now, but MKP will keep me watching this tourney still.