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[MLG] Full Lineup for the MLG Summer Championship - Page 8

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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 22 2012 16:53 GMT
#141
the problem here is the rain in this tournament is nice but it would be soo cool have the other rain ^^ btw i would even say roro, effort and co could make easy top3 xD perhaps they scared they are not good enough yet
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
August 22 2012 16:53 GMT
#142
On August 23 2012 01:34 Depetrify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 00:32 Kiyo. wrote:
Whelp, now we know why it hasn't been hyped.


I don't understand, why are people sad about this? This is a fucking sick line up..


I dunno man, only 3 Europeans. So it will basically only be Korean vs Korean, American vs American and Koreans stomping Americans.
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
August 22 2012 16:55 GMT
#143
On August 23 2012 00:23 gammAwolfa wrote:
who is saviorsc2 ?


that's xenocider! 15 yr old (as of a week ago) GM

he has a stream "fan club" here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352643
DanboSmitty
Profile Joined April 2011
80 Posts
August 22 2012 16:55 GMT
#144
MLG is North America's premier tournament so at least its a good opportunity to give many of those players a shot at the big leagues.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
August 22 2012 16:55 GMT
#145
But Koreans stomping Americans makes me tingle inside
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
August 22 2012 16:57 GMT
#146
On August 23 2012 01:51 CoR wrote:
we jhave to tell the kespa guys they can make alot of name and money here, guys like roro reality skt1.rain are SO good


That's not the issue. I'm sure they wanted to come, but it's super crucial games in PL for every single team except Ace and KT, and Ace can't go anyway.
Nuubie
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden66 Posts
August 22 2012 16:58 GMT
#147
Bummer, I was looking forward to this, now its just.. to quote:
This MLG went from "must watch" to "might watch".
He had the same don't-give-a-f*** attitude from his stream, where he all-ins every game and shamelessly plays three ads.
NoMicroWin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States688 Posts
August 22 2012 16:58 GMT
#148
Sasquatch fightingggggggg.
If she pulls out her stalkers, you pull out your mauraders and concussive all over her tits
Arc1
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland849 Posts
August 22 2012 16:59 GMT
#149
Well I am confused by some people getting seeds in pool play, but i guess this is good for NA scene. Only 6 people form EU is kinda shame, oh well.
Nothing to add.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 22 2012 17:00 GMT
#150
MLG conflicts with the last matchday of Proleague I think (or at least that's what I read). So Kespa players not going to MLG is probably for the best.

Although feel free to invite any of the ACE players. =P
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
August 22 2012 17:00 GMT
#151
On August 23 2012 01:51 NMxhendralisk wrote:
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On August 23 2012 01:06 Scarlett` wrote:
On August 23 2012 00:55 Pokebunny wrote:
On August 23 2012 00:54 tGFuRy wrote:
Who the hell is gix? Group C seed 22.

Pretty good NA zerg, was rank 1 gm the other day. Used to be on Reign.

He win traded to rank 1 gm

User was slapped around a bit with a large fishbot for this post



This got a warning o.o You think Scarlett would say that without any basis?


http://imgur.com/a/cWivM#0


yo that's some csi shiz right there.

attaboy henraaaaay
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 17:03:37
August 22 2012 17:01 GMT
#152
Why is Qxc in this? He went 0:4 in the Summer Arena. On which system were those seeds determined?
edit: nvm, not apparently all spots are Summer Arena seeds.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 22 2012 17:01 GMT
#153
On August 23 2012 01:49 OrbitalPlane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 01:36 Xeris wrote:
On August 23 2012 01:24 OrbitalPlane wrote:
On August 23 2012 01:11 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote:
On August 23 2012 00:58 OrbitalPlane wrote:
On August 23 2012 00:49 a9arnn wrote:
Edit: Cool Binski AND Caliber!!! LighT fighting!!!


sad days for MLG. Sad day for the community that so few ppl even notice that.
Never thought that seeding would get out of control like that. I always was against seeding ppl who didn't qualifier for it and don't have any other proof to legitimate seeding them over other open bracket players.
What's next?
Do we have a raffle at next MLG to get some fans seeded in the groups?

To be clear: i don't have anything against those invited players like Binski and Caliber, and its definitely not their fault that they are invited! I also like that the local players gets supported but this is NOT the right way.



You need to calm down. Maybe do a little research before posting?

binski and Caliber were seeded as they are from their results in the Summer Arena American Invite-Only Qualifier. Caliber was a single game away from qualifying for Summer Arena (losing to Sheth 1-2 in the final round) and binski was 1 round away. giX was in the same position as Caliber.

And just FYI, they all made it farther than HuK.


Can you link me any source for your claims?
I read the official announcements. I can't remember reading anything about that.
I trust in liquipedia until you give me your sources:
Seeds:
Top 16 players of 2012 MLG Summer Arena are seeded into Group Play.
A further 8 invited players are seeded into Group Play.

If it is true what you are saying it is even more confusing. Why would you seed players who actually not even qualified for the arena. This wouldn't even make sense or be fair in any way. You could take the top 24 players from the arena or smth like that.


MLG Arena players 17-32 are not given free trips to MLG -- so very few/none of them accepted their invites. Then MLG goes down the list of the next highest people (I.e. binski / caliber who were both 1 round away from Arena) and they got invited. Since they were going to be at MLG anyway, they got the seeds.

This is a explanation that makes sense to some extent but you don't link a source either. Is this your assumption or did you hear that from MLG?
In the sources i trust they still state that there are 8 invited players.
They are also a lot of other scenarios that seem possible to me.
I guess the Kespa players would not have payed for their flight tickets on their own. As a result you can also argue that MLG could have flown in some good foreigners. But this is not the point i was making. I am just saying that this seems to be the worst sulotion and i listed some ideas in further posts that are better imho.

Show nested quote +

I don't get what's so hard to understand, there's no reason for you to be a massive dick.

Like i posted before its nothing personal against players from LighT.
Did I get personal or insult you? Or is it normal for you to call random ppl out to be a massive dick?


Well, your raffle comment was kind of insulting. Yes, there are other ways to handle the extra spots but MLG chose this one. If you ask 10 diifferent people, they would have 10 different 'fair' solutions...
Pinski
Profile Joined September 2010
United States126 Posts
August 22 2012 17:03 GMT
#154
On August 23 2012 02:00 Talin wrote:
MLG conflicts with the last matchday of Proleague I think (or at least that's what I read). So Kespa players not going to MLG is probably for the best.

Although feel free to invite any of the ACE players. =P


And have their invites turned down as ACE doesn't care about anything but Korea considering who their major sponsor is.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 22 2012 17:03 GMT
#155
On August 23 2012 01:57 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 01:51 CoR wrote:
we jhave to tell the kespa guys they can make alot of name and money here, guys like roro reality skt1.rain are SO good


That's not the issue. I'm sure they wanted to come, but it's super crucial games in PL for every single team except Ace and KT, and Ace can't go anyway.


And for us foreign fans, MLG might be a huge event. But PL is much more important to the Kespa players.
SeggsyLori
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany80 Posts
August 22 2012 17:05 GMT
#156
Binski, Caliber, Sasquash, Gix? Never heared of them WTF!??!?!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 22 2012 17:06 GMT
#157
On August 23 2012 01:53 Champloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 01:34 Depetrify wrote:
On August 23 2012 00:32 Kiyo. wrote:
Whelp, now we know why it hasn't been hyped.


I don't understand, why are people sad about this? This is a fucking sick line up..


I dunno man, only 3 Europeans. So it will basically only be Korean vs Korean, American vs American and Koreans stomping Americans.


Well, sadly not everybody is part of a team who is wealthy enough to send you overseas to compete in a tournament.
Even though you yourself might be better than a couple of players on that team. :-/
Soulriser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States192 Posts
August 22 2012 17:07 GMT
#158
so many good players, but itll probably just be another korean dominated tournament. yaaaaay..
CrugerDK
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark323 Posts
August 22 2012 17:08 GMT
#159
On August 23 2012 00:29 m0ck wrote:
Seed 3 & 5 and 4 & 6 together. Why?

By any logic, 3 & 6 and 4 & 5 should be in the same groups. This is an disadvantage to seed 3 compared to seed 4. It makes no sense.


you're right that does seem strange
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 17:14:27
August 22 2012 17:08 GMT
#160
On August 23 2012 02:01 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 01:49 OrbitalPlane wrote:
On August 23 2012 01:36 Xeris wrote:
On August 23 2012 01:24 OrbitalPlane wrote:
On August 23 2012 01:11 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote:
On August 23 2012 00:58 OrbitalPlane wrote:
On August 23 2012 00:49 a9arnn wrote:
Edit: Cool Binski AND Caliber!!! LighT fighting!!!


sad days for MLG. Sad day for the community that so few ppl even notice that.
Never thought that seeding would get out of control like that. I always was against seeding ppl who didn't qualifier for it and don't have any other proof to legitimate seeding them over other open bracket players.
What's next?
Do we have a raffle at next MLG to get some fans seeded in the groups?

To be clear: i don't have anything against those invited players like Binski and Caliber, and its definitely not their fault that they are invited! I also like that the local players gets supported but this is NOT the right way.



You need to calm down. Maybe do a little research before posting?

binski and Caliber were seeded as they are from their results in the Summer Arena American Invite-Only Qualifier. Caliber was a single game away from qualifying for Summer Arena (losing to Sheth 1-2 in the final round) and binski was 1 round away. giX was in the same position as Caliber.

And just FYI, they all made it farther than HuK.


Can you link me any source for your claims?
I read the official announcements. I can't remember reading anything about that.
I trust in liquipedia until you give me your sources:
Seeds:
Top 16 players of 2012 MLG Summer Arena are seeded into Group Play.
A further 8 invited players are seeded into Group Play.

If it is true what you are saying it is even more confusing. Why would you seed players who actually not even qualified for the arena. This wouldn't even make sense or be fair in any way. You could take the top 24 players from the arena or smth like that.


MLG Arena players 17-32 are not given free trips to MLG -- so very few/none of them accepted their invites. Then MLG goes down the list of the next highest people (I.e. binski / caliber who were both 1 round away from Arena) and they got invited. Since they were going to be at MLG anyway, they got the seeds.

This is a explanation that makes sense to some extent but you don't link a source either. Is this your assumption or did you hear that from MLG?
In the sources i trust they still state that there are 8 invited players.
They are also a lot of other scenarios that seem possible to me.
I guess the Kespa players would not have payed for their flight tickets on their own. As a result you can also argue that MLG could have flown in some good foreigners. But this is not the point i was making. I am just saying that this seems to be the worst sulotion and i listed some ideas in further posts that are better imho.


I don't get what's so hard to understand, there's no reason for you to be a massive dick.

Like i posted before its nothing personal against players from LighT.
Did I get personal or insult you? Or is it normal for you to call random ppl out to be a massive dick?


Well, your raffle comment was kind of insulting.


The raffle idea was a exaggeration. I think (at least i hope) most people don't believe that i expect this to really happen.
I don't see this insulting Xeris so.

Yes, there are other ways to handle the extra spots but MLG chose this one. If you ask 10 diifferent people, they would have 10 different 'fair' solutions...

This is true. I just expressed my opinion that i think it was the worst solution. If you think it was the best solution you can throw in some arguments and we can have a nice discussion.
Or we just agree on that we have different opinions depending that matter.

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