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lokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Argentina80 Posts
August 22 2012 17:36 GMT
#201
GAULZI FUCK YEAAH!
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
August 22 2012 17:37 GMT
#202
Where did my DRG go :[
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
August 22 2012 17:37 GMT
#203
Is the NA WCS going on during this MLG as well?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
August 22 2012 17:38 GMT
#204
way too many koreans in the group stages, I will only be watching the open bracket
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
August 22 2012 17:38 GMT
#205
on second thought thats probably because i stopped watching MLG after the PPV thing.. my fault i guess for now knowing seeds 22-24
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 22 2012 17:38 GMT
#206
On August 23 2012 02:34 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 02:21 ohampatu wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:19 sGSuperSlinkY wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:05 SeggsyLori wrote:
Binski, Caliber, Sasquash, Gix? Never heared of them WTF!??!?!


Binski and Caliber are on LighT and both really great players, im expecting them to do really well
Sasquash is in the CoL academy and Gix is on Legion

these 4 players are really good up and comers that can really hold there own. Dont doubt them. Im sure there going to show there true talent here




i'll give you Gix, and possibly Sasquash, but Caliber and Binski will fall at the first non NA pro


Last MLG, Caliber was knocked out by Hawke, who went 2:1 against Monster, and Monster had an amazing run that tournament. Binski was knocked out by Illusion, who is flat out really good.




So because someone lost to someone who lost to someone who is considered good, they are good as well? The law never fails.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 22 2012 17:39 GMT
#207
The funniest thing (or not) is that the top seeds of MLG Summer Arena (TaeJa, Alicia, Stephano, HerO, etc) will maybe have to face the open bracket winners (great players so) while the worse seeded players (seed 3 and 4 of each group : Daisy, GoOdy, PuMa) will maybe face the invited players (Binski, Caliber, etc). I hope it will be not the case but I have a doubt.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
August 22 2012 17:39 GMT
#208
Good to see LighT getting a lot of their players in there!
Good luck to Binski and Cailber!
tranmillitary
Profile Joined August 2011
210 Posts
August 22 2012 17:39 GMT
#209
On August 23 2012 02:36 GuitarBizarre wrote:
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On August 23 2012 02:35 tranmillitary wrote:
that group B looks like the group of death... while group D looks like child's play.

I'm calling it... A korean Terran will win this MLG.


Careful with those risky predictions bro, you might hurt yourself.



LOL. If MVP was here, my prediction would be 100 percent right. Taeja/MKP/MVP are the 3 best Terran's in the world right now. Alive might come out and go beast mode again, but we shall see.
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
August 22 2012 17:41 GMT
#210
On August 23 2012 02:39 tranmillitary wrote:
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On August 23 2012 02:36 GuitarBizarre wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:35 tranmillitary wrote:
that group B looks like the group of death... while group D looks like child's play.

I'm calling it... A korean Terran will win this MLG.


Careful with those risky predictions bro, you might hurt yourself.



LOL. If MVP was here, my prediction would be 100 percent right. Taeja/MKP/MVP are the 3 best Terran's in the world right now. Alive might come out and go beast mode again, but we shall see.


I want MKP to fucking CRUSH this tournament. I want Manner Mules and Manner CC's EVERY GAME.
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
August 22 2012 17:43 GMT
#211
On August 23 2012 02:38 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 02:34 GuitarBizarre wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:21 ohampatu wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:19 sGSuperSlinkY wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:05 SeggsyLori wrote:
Binski, Caliber, Sasquash, Gix? Never heared of them WTF!??!?!


Binski and Caliber are on LighT and both really great players, im expecting them to do really well
Sasquash is in the CoL academy and Gix is on Legion

these 4 players are really good up and comers that can really hold there own. Dont doubt them. Im sure there going to show there true talent here




i'll give you Gix, and possibly Sasquash, but Caliber and Binski will fall at the first non NA pro


Last MLG, Caliber was knocked out by Hawke, who went 2:1 against Monster, and Monster had an amazing run that tournament. Binski was knocked out by Illusion, who is flat out really good.




So because someone lost to someone who lost to someone who is considered good, they are good as well? The law never fails.


Not at all, but they got through multiple weaker opponents before losing to opponents (Who also got through multiple weaker opponents) who were ultimately stopped by absolute beasts.

I'm not arguing that they're top class foreigner hopes, but they put in a good account of themselves at the last MLG and I'm all for giving players their fair chance.
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
August 22 2012 17:46 GMT
#212
On August 23 2012 02:43 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 02:38 GreEny K wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:34 GuitarBizarre wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:21 ohampatu wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:19 sGSuperSlinkY wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:05 SeggsyLori wrote:
Binski, Caliber, Sasquash, Gix? Never heared of them WTF!??!?!


Binski and Caliber are on LighT and both really great players, im expecting them to do really well
Sasquash is in the CoL academy and Gix is on Legion

these 4 players are really good up and comers that can really hold there own. Dont doubt them. Im sure there going to show there true talent here




i'll give you Gix, and possibly Sasquash, but Caliber and Binski will fall at the first non NA pro


Last MLG, Caliber was knocked out by Hawke, who went 2:1 against Monster, and Monster had an amazing run that tournament. Binski was knocked out by Illusion, who is flat out really good.




So because someone lost to someone who lost to someone who is considered good, they are good as well? The law never fails.


Not at all, but they got through multiple weaker opponents before losing to opponents (Who also got through multiple weaker opponents) who were ultimately stopped by absolute beasts.

I'm not arguing that they're top class foreigner hopes, but they put in a good account of themselves at the last MLG and I'm all for giving players their fair chance.


The fair chance is called the open bracket, not being seeded into the pools.
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
August 22 2012 17:46 GMT
#213
why exactly is a player named Gix and a player named Binski seeded into groups but multiple MLG Champion MKP is in the open bracket? what?
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
August 22 2012 17:48 GMT
#214
I'm optimistic despite the hero and taeja being in the same group but MKP? I don't see it. Not saying its absolutely impossible just that I think he is overrated, a good player but not mind boggling and amazing, and I would be supremely disappointed if it did. and before I get anyone saying he's the most amazing player ever, I am not impressed and that's my valid OPINION. DEAL.
mengsk83
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany519 Posts
August 22 2012 17:49 GMT
#215
The placement of the Seeds into the 4 groups makes no sense.... Shouldn't it be like:

Group1: Group2: Group3: Group4:
Seed1 Seed2 Seed3 Seed4
Seed8 Seed7 Seed6 Seed5
Seed9 Seed10 Seed11 Seed12
Seed16 Seed15 Seed14 Seed13 etc.
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 17:53:54
August 22 2012 17:51 GMT
#216
On August 23 2012 02:31 Xeris wrote:
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MLG pays for the flights for the top 16 of Arena. 17-32 earn high seeds in open bracket but don't have their flights paid for - this is common knowledge.
Indeed, did i state i did not know that?
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There were to be 8 invited players (people assume they were to be KeSPA pros), it doesn't really matter who they were, but for whatever reason the players they wanted to invite didn't come.

Did you even read the OP? They announced that the Kespa pros will not apear. This is not an assumption.

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So the next step is to invite people from qualifiers, using an objective method. Look at Liquipedia to see the rankings from the Arena qualifiers, then say it doesn't make sense.

Yes this is one objective method to do it. But this is not the only one. I don't see were they said they use this one. And the only thing i said is that i don't like the methode and i explained why.

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Think about it logically... they need to fill the groups, they have to use some kind of objective method to do it. What are the chances a European will fly to MLG on <1 week notice? Probably 0. What are the chances that an NA player will come to MLG, probably 100% since they're coming anyway.

This is one way to do it but you could have also increased the qualifing seeds from open bracket. This is just one objective method beneath many
Show nested quote +

You're not even thinking about this

Good to know that you know what i am thinking. i am scared now.

Show nested quote +

- and insulting the people that are in pool play just because you don't know them and it seems "random" to you even though it's not random at all.

Can you quote me insulting players pls?
i said that:
To be clear: i don't have anything against those invited players like Binski and Caliber, and its definitely not their fault that they are invited! I also like that the local players gets supported but this is NOT the right way.
Is this insulting to you?

Show nested quote +

That's why I call you a dick.

So you insult all people that don't agree with you or what is your explanation?



Cj hero | Zest
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
August 22 2012 17:52 GMT
#217
On August 23 2012 02:46 Irre wrote:
why exactly is a player named Gix and a player named Binski seeded into groups but multiple MLG Champion MKP is in the open bracket? what?


my thoughts exactly. will not be watching this mlg.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
August 22 2012 17:52 GMT
#218
WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THESE NORTH AMERICAN SEEDS? WHAT?!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 17:54:18
August 22 2012 17:52 GMT
#219
On August 23 2012 02:46 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 02:43 GuitarBizarre wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:38 GreEny K wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:34 GuitarBizarre wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:21 ohampatu wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:19 sGSuperSlinkY wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:05 SeggsyLori wrote:
Binski, Caliber, Sasquash, Gix? Never heared of them WTF!??!?!


Binski and Caliber are on LighT and both really great players, im expecting them to do really well
Sasquash is in the CoL academy and Gix is on Legion

these 4 players are really good up and comers that can really hold there own. Dont doubt them. Im sure there going to show there true talent here




i'll give you Gix, and possibly Sasquash, but Caliber and Binski will fall at the first non NA pro


Last MLG, Caliber was knocked out by Hawke, who went 2:1 against Monster, and Monster had an amazing run that tournament. Binski was knocked out by Illusion, who is flat out really good.




So because someone lost to someone who lost to someone who is considered good, they are good as well? The law never fails.


Not at all, but they got through multiple weaker opponents before losing to opponents (Who also got through multiple weaker opponents) who were ultimately stopped by absolute beasts.

I'm not arguing that they're top class foreigner hopes, but they put in a good account of themselves at the last MLG and I'm all for giving players their fair chance.


The fair chance is called the open bracket, not being seeded into the pools.


MLG has chosen to reward these players for their previous good showing. They took advantage of their fair chance last time and proved to be reasonable competitors by MLG's standards.

Is it so hard to be happy that some unknowns, whose play you're probably not familiar with, are being given an opportunity to play bigger games and maybe in the process bring a little more to the table than seeing the same old names play each other over and over? If they play well, they bring a lot of dark horse excitement to a tournament where otherwise the fans have generally preconceived ideas of what to expect.

If they don't play well, the better players in the open bracket and the better players in the pools will swiftly show them the door, and you won't have to worry about it.

Nobody loses here, we as fans, and them as players, only stand to gain.

On August 23 2012 02:46 Irre wrote:
why exactly is a player named Gix and a player named Binski seeded into groups but multiple MLG Champion MKP is in the open bracket? what?


They played in the last MLG, and earned seeds, by whatever standards MLG have used to determine those seeds (IE, presumably not stupid reasons). MKP didn't play in the last MLG at all, and its unrealistic to expect a tournament to carry over a seed from two tournaments ago.
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 22 2012 17:53 GMT
#220
Saying "its not their fault they're invited" is like an insult. At least it appears to me to be an insult in that you're saying they shouldn't be invited because it's "not the right way."

What, to you, would be the right way?

It seems like the best method of inviting players is based on performance in your events. Therefore:

Invite 17-32 place at Arena
Invite the next highest people on the list from the Arena qualifiers

It seems like MLG followed the most objective criteria. What way would be better in your opinion? Not like MLG can just afford to fly in random invites, they don't have infinite money
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