[MLG] Full Lineup for the MLG Summer Championship - Page 13

On August 23 2012 02:34 GuitarBizarre wrote:


Last MLG, Caliber was knocked out by Hawke, who went 2:1 against Monster, and Monster had an amazing run that tournament. Binski was knocked out by Illusion, who is flat out really good.

On August 23 2012 02:32 kju wrote:


it's not round robin, every group is a DE-bracket

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Summer/Championship#Group_Play

On August 23 2012 03:07 ragz_gt wrote:
It's not like MLG doesn't know they messed up royally, which is why they hid the invites for as long as possible (and a couple extra days anyway). The question is why they reserved 8 seeds for KeSPA player they obviously expected to get when it's even more obviously not going to happen. It's like reserve a 8 seats at a restaurant without confirming and hope 8 people you know would just show up. Except 100x worse.

On August 23 2012 03:07 Catatonic wrote:
Earned or not idc some of these players shouldn't be in group stages like Binski, Goody, Gix, Sasquatch, an Caliber, especially when theres players like SeleCT, IdrA, Huk, JYP, DeMuslim, MKP, Heart, and Thorzain are in open bracket. It defeats the purpose of even having groups when lower skill players like that are pretty much automatically put a lot futher placement wise by default in the final rankings over those with higher skill just because of bad groups.

On August 23 2012 02:53 Xeris wrote:
Saying "its not their fault they're invited" is like an insult. At least it appears to me to be an insult in that you're saying they shouldn't be invited because it's "not the right way."

What, to you, would be the right way?

It seems like the best method of inviting players is based on performance in your events. Therefore:

Invite 17-32 place at Arena
Invite the next highest people on the list from the Arena qualifiers

It seems like MLG followed the most objective criteria. What way would be better in your opinion? Not like MLG can just afford to fly in random invites, they don't have infinite money

On August 23 2012 02:32 kju wrote:


it's not round robin, every group is a DE-bracket

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Summer/Championship#Group_Play

On August 23 2012 03:15 OrbitalPlane wrote:

These are two different points.
First one i specially say its not their fault. Why would they turn such an offer down? You know there are ppl like Jinro who turn down their Coda A invitation because they think they are not good enough. In my opinion that's not the players problem to think about how fair the inviteing process is. Exactly that's the reason why i emphasised it's NOT their fault.
Second one. I don't say these players should not be invited. If they use the methode you explained then i say i don't like the methode MLG uses to invite the players. This is not directed towards the players and i don't see how it insults them. If those players would be idra, incontrol etc i would ask the same questions and i would also say that i don't like the methode MLG used. I don't see how the players could be personal offended by my words.



I think i stated that in every single last post i made. I think the best option would have been to give more seeds to the highest finisher in the open bracket. If the now invited players are good enough they will qualify through the open bracket and gain their seed that way.
But there are also some other solutions that were at least better than the current one.

On August 23 2012 03:09 ohampatu wrote:


The best method?

Well, these spots were meant for 8 kespa players, so they were never intended to be based off seeds of their qualifier, they were their to invite the big names. Now we realize that the big names they originally wanted couldn't come. In my head, it only makes logical sense to invite the equivalent of what Kespa would have brought. Big high caliber players/names.

Instead they took the seeding method, which is a viable option and makes sense based off their seeds, but the bad one. Those 8 spots were worth about 20k watchers.

Your players aren't gonna bring 20k watchers, see my point. Not trying to bash, just using the logics from a business standpoint and fan standpoint.