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On August 22 2012 00:07 soon.Cloak wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 23:53 Kiyo. wrote:On August 21 2012 23:42 soon.Cloak wrote:
P.S. The only thing I think everyone can agree on is that if you are not a pro player, there's no reason to have it. Diamonds and plats who want to remain anonymous "so that nobody steals their strats" bother me... No. If people want to stay anonymous then that's their right. It shouldn't matter what their skill level is or what league they're in. I didn't deny that it's their right. I denied that there is a purpose to it (other than just being anonymous for the sake of being anonymous). Nobody knows who you are if you're IIIIIIII or if you're ILovePokemon98 Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 23:53 Akhee wrote:its good like that, the only problem is when you re watching someone ladder in kr and theres never a known opponent, ends up being boring On August 21 2012 23:52 soon.Cloak wrote:On August 21 2012 23:45 stew_ wrote:
even if you ban the combination of i's and l's, people will use different letters to remain anonymous. i'm fine with it however. But even if you have player "zuvgoagbsb", there will only be one of him. It's different than having 30 players that are IIIIII. actually no, there could be "sssssssss", the problem is not being unique IDs Assuming there is only 6-15 characters, then you can only have 10 people with a name made up of just "s". The issue is I and l look the same. Then you have 2^10 combinations, or 1024 possible people.
You don't seem to get it tbh.
Its not to be anonymous. It is just for some fun. Nothing to do with hiding their identity. It is a trend atm so people jump on it.
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barcodes and account jumping is funny. No one knows who you are only the one pro that changed the font, so he can see l and I and made a list who was on which account gets a benefit from it, while barcoder thinks their build order training remains hidden.
But the barcode thing removed the pro smurf hunters, who loved to announce when they found a pro. So it had it benefit.
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Adding a "don't mind it" option would probably be good since the two existing ones are a bit extreme. 
Personally, I'm fine with it although at times it would be nice to know who streamers are actually playing against.
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Its a real shame that some people use it just to cheese/BM, I think that's kinda pathetic and it colours my opinion of barcode names as an otherwise useful tool for pros.
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On August 22 2012 00:16 anApple wrote:Adding a "don't mind it" option would probably be good since the two existing ones are a bit extreme. Personally, I'm fine with it although at times it would be nice to know who streamers are actually playing against.
lol was considering it, but figured "I don't mind" was too close to "like it", and didn't want to split up the votes.
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Unique ID isn't the only problem.... with just combination of i and L for 10 letterspace is 2^9....that's a lot of freaggin combination... and since minimum is 3... you essentially get 2^2+2^3+2^4....+2^9...
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It's not the barcodes that are the problem. The problem is that names are not unique. There can be a million people named NesTea on any particular server. Everyone say thank you Blizzard ^^
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I will get a smurf account and that will be the name of it.
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I would prefer the game without it, but really it doesn't matter. Didn't vote as I would need the afore discussed "I don't mind" option.
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It's not up to the players to entertain potential stream viewers of their opponent.
This all comes from the fact that you can look up build orders in match history. If players want to use ladder as actual practice, using a barcode is the only way to stay "safe" from getting studied by opponents.
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I don't find it weird at all that progamers want to hide their playstyles, but people below masters who have them...
I just think it is a waste of a name change imho
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they should be more creative, but hiding your identity is ok imo.
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I like the idea of pros using barcoded accounts. However, I do see lots of nobodies (below high masters/GM) barcoding accounts, it seems they are really missing the point of it...
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It's fine at the higher end of the ladder spectrum like high masters and GM so you can hide who you are so players can't predict what you're doing based on your style of play, but at anything below that it's just pointless and dumb.
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I don't really see anything wrong with it.
Perfectly fine with it.
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well if they patch it then everyone will have the name: aaaaa or qqqq or anything because you can have the same name as others, so it doesn't matter.
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On August 22 2012 00:14 FeyFey wrote:
barcodes and account jumping is funny. No one knows who you are only the one pro that changed the font, so he can see l and I and made a list who was on which account gets a benefit from it, while barcoder thinks their build order training remains hidden.
But the barcode thing removed the pro smurf hunters, who loved to announce when they found a pro. So it had it benefit.
Speaking of smurfs, does anyone know who Freakhill is on the EU server? :D (GM terran)
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theres no way to stop this if people want to be anonymous theyll be anonymous
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actually if you put a replay on drop.sc you can see the combination of l's and i's. that way you can study the replays of barcode players and see whose is whose
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On August 22 2012 00:25 oZe wrote:
It's not the barcodes that are the problem. The problem is that names are not unique. There can be a million people named NesTea on any particular server. Everyone say thank you Blizzard ^^
Thanks for letting me have my name Blizzard and not be driven insane by having to modify it to something stupid.
edit: but they really, really need to let us have less than three chars for a name.
edit2: Also, you'd never see the real NesTea on any particular server with unique names because trolls would hop on the chance to pay the $60 to take his name way before he ever decided to play on multiple servers. It'd be pretty impossible to keep your name as a pro if you didn't already own it on all three servers.
Also nestea is a very generic name and would have likely been taken long before he became known.
edit3: and it's pretty much guarenteed that the names of most kespa pros would have already been taken. There was probably dozens of jaedongs and flashes at release before the real JD and Flash even bought the game.
tl;dr non-unique names is a godsend.
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