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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
August 21 2012 15:10 GMT
#41
On August 22 2012 00:07 soon.Cloak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 23:53 Kiyo. wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:42 soon.Cloak wrote:
P.S. The only thing I think everyone can agree on is that if you are not a pro player, there's no reason to have it. Diamonds and plats who want to remain anonymous "so that nobody steals their strats" bother me...


No. If people want to stay anonymous then that's their right. It shouldn't matter what their skill level is or what league they're in.


I didn't deny that it's their right. I denied that there is a purpose to it (other than just being anonymous for the sake of being anonymous). Nobody knows who you are if you're IIIIIIII or if you're ILovePokemon98

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 23:53 Akhee wrote:
its good like that, the only problem is when you re watching someone ladder in kr and theres never a known opponent, ends up being boring

On August 21 2012 23:52 soon.Cloak wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:45 stew_ wrote:
even if you ban the combination of i's and l's, people will use different letters to remain anonymous. i'm fine with it however.


But even if you have player "zuvgoagbsb", there will only be one of him. It's different than having 30 players that are IIIIII.


actually no, there could be "sssssssss", the problem is not being unique IDs


Assuming there is only 6-15 characters, then you can only have 10 people with a name made up of just "s". The issue is I and l look the same. Then you have 2^10 combinations, or 1024 possible people.

You don't seem to get it tbh.
Its not to be anonymous. It is just for some fun. Nothing to do with hiding their identity. It is a trend atm so people jump on it.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 21 2012 15:14 GMT
#42
barcodes and account jumping is funny. No one knows who you are only the one pro that changed the font, so he can see l and I and made a list who was on which account gets a benefit from it, while barcoder thinks their build order training remains hidden.
But the barcode thing removed the pro smurf hunters, who loved to announce when they found a pro. So it had it benefit.
anApple
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore275 Posts
August 21 2012 15:16 GMT
#43
Adding a "don't mind it" option would probably be good since the two existing ones are a bit extreme.
Personally, I'm fine with it although at times it would be nice to know who streamers are actually playing against.
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Kasu
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
August 21 2012 15:19 GMT
#44
Its a real shame that some people use it just to cheese/BM, I think that's kinda pathetic and it colours my opinion of barcode names as an otherwise useful tool for pros.
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
August 21 2012 15:22 GMT
#45
On August 22 2012 00:16 anApple wrote:
Adding a "don't mind it" option would probably be good since the two existing ones are a bit extreme.
Personally, I'm fine with it although at times it would be nice to know who streamers are actually playing against.


lol was considering it, but figured "I don't mind" was too close to "like it", and didn't want to split up the votes.
eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 15:23:37
August 21 2012 15:22 GMT
#46
Unique ID isn't the only problem.... with just combination of i and L for 10 letterspace is 2^9....that's a lot of freaggin combination... and since minimum is 3... you essentially get 2^2+2^3+2^4....+2^9...
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oZe
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden492 Posts
August 21 2012 15:25 GMT
#47
It's not the barcodes that are the problem. The problem is that names are not unique. There can be a million people named NesTea on any particular server. Everyone say thank you Blizzard ^^
The worst kinds of organized crime are religion & government.
Maggost
Profile Joined August 2011
Venezuela296 Posts
August 21 2012 15:26 GMT
#48
I will get a smurf account and that will be the name of it.
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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
August 21 2012 15:27 GMT
#49
I would prefer the game without it, but really it doesn't matter. Didn't vote as I would need the afore discussed "I don't mind" option.
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Moosegills
Profile Joined March 2011
United States558 Posts
August 21 2012 15:29 GMT
#50
It's not up to the players to entertain potential stream viewers of their opponent.

This all comes from the fact that you can look up build orders in match history. If players want to use ladder as actual practice, using a barcode is the only way to stay "safe" from getting studied by opponents.
#1 HuK fan, zerg player playing for http://www.complexitygaming.com - @coL_Moosegills
imEnex
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
August 21 2012 15:29 GMT
#51
I don't find it weird at all that progamers want to hide their playstyles, but people below masters who have them...
I just think it is a waste of a name change imho
Program yourself to Success
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
August 21 2012 15:31 GMT
#52
they should be more creative, but hiding your identity is ok imo.
Pylons
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada54 Posts
August 21 2012 15:35 GMT
#53
I like the idea of pros using barcoded accounts. However, I do see lots of nobodies (below high masters/GM) barcoding accounts, it seems they are really missing the point of it...
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
August 21 2012 15:39 GMT
#54
It's fine at the higher end of the ladder spectrum like high masters and GM so you can hide who you are so players can't predict what you're doing based on your style of play, but at anything below that it's just pointless and dumb.
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LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
August 21 2012 15:39 GMT
#55
I don't really see anything wrong with it.

Perfectly fine with it.
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Atlasy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Hungary229 Posts
August 21 2012 15:41 GMT
#56
well if they patch it then everyone will have the name: aaaaa or qqqq or anything because you can have the same name as others, so it doesn't matter.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
August 21 2012 15:41 GMT
#57
On August 22 2012 00:14 FeyFey wrote:
barcodes and account jumping is funny. No one knows who you are only the one pro that changed the font, so he can see l and I and made a list who was on which account gets a benefit from it, while barcoder thinks their build order training remains hidden.
But the barcode thing removed the pro smurf hunters, who loved to announce when they found a pro. So it had it benefit.

Speaking of smurfs, does anyone know who Freakhill is on the EU server? :D (GM terran)
WriterMaru
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 21 2012 15:43 GMT
#58
theres no way to stop this if people want to be anonymous theyll be anonymous
Fossa
Profile Joined July 2011
United States67 Posts
August 21 2012 15:44 GMT
#59
actually if you put a replay on drop.sc you can see the combination of l's and i's. that way you can study the replays of barcode players and see whose is whose
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 15:58:45
August 21 2012 15:46 GMT
#60
On August 22 2012 00:25 oZe wrote:
It's not the barcodes that are the problem. The problem is that names are not unique. There can be a million people named NesTea on any particular server. Everyone say thank you Blizzard ^^


Thanks for letting me have my name Blizzard and not be driven insane by having to modify it to something stupid.

edit: but they really, really need to let us have less than three chars for a name.

edit2: Also, you'd never see the real NesTea on any particular server with unique names because trolls would hop on the chance to pay the $60 to take his name way before he ever decided to play on multiple servers. It'd be pretty impossible to keep your name as a pro if you didn't already own it on all three servers.

Also nestea is a very generic name and would have likely been taken long before he became known.

edit3: and it's pretty much guarenteed that the names of most kespa pros would have already been taken. There was probably dozens of jaedongs and flashes at release before the real JD and Flash even bought the game.

tl;dr non-unique names is a godsend.
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