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Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 06:40:22
August 17 2012 06:38 GMT
#981
On August 17 2012 15:35 Dustin_Butthead wrote:
Show nested quote +

Third article is about how the SlayerS situation. He said he had no comment and believes it doesn't fit the current situation to talk about SlayerS. He said that while he built the SlayerS team, when he left he made sure that his absence would not destroy or deteriorate the team. When someone asked about SlayerS, BoxeR said that there's issues going on with the team that is hurting BoxeR (not physically but mentally) and Jessica believed that BoxeR's transfer over to SKT would help both teams.



The Koreans are saying team moral is down and Boxer feels betrayed by Taeja and GanZi during GSTL RO8, consequently destroying the SlayerS Terran line. The sense of betrayal is even greater because Boxer was the one who discovered and fostered Taeja and GanZi.

Betrayals such as these are much harder within the KeSPA framework. Maybe that's why Boxer went back.


Source? Your name is Dustin_Butthead, after all. And that post is kind of a drama if true.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 17 2012 06:39 GMT
#982
On August 17 2012 12:29 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 12:26 RaiKageRyu wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:57 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:44 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that the organization lock merely concerns player-to-player transition rather than being a more general one.
Boxer leaving Slayers for a former BW-team is a very big event. GSL teams should rightfully start to seriously feel the heat...


Its better for the greater good. GSL teams will eventually (well except for IM) will eventually get assimilated by the Kespa teams. And thus GOM leagues will become the 2nd in hand in esport. Then when Blizzard comes gun blazing about destroying the new scene, Kespa will be the one defending it. And Sc2 have have legion of foreign fans, and cement a new age of Esport because esport shouldn't be determine by how 'dated' a game is. It should be about fans and passion and not a corporate grabbing machine.

Why except IM? Other teams live Startale, MVP, Prime etc all have a lot of good sponsors.


None of them can match the sponsors IM has. If all goes well towards the end of the year and LG becomes an indefinite sponsor, IM will actually join KeSPA.


Won't be surprised considering ACE will most likely not participate in the next Proleague season. They need to make up even numbers some how.

Proper sc2 kespa = progaming licenses for sc2? Courage tourney again? Everyone is taken more seriously?

sweet.
Jaedong.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 17 2012 06:41 GMT
#983
Whoa....so much controversy and possibilities erupting from this move :X

Really interested in what's going to happen. The idea of an arms race for SC2 coaches on the kespa teams is pretty interesting though for sure hope it works :D
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
August 17 2012 06:43 GMT
#984
On August 17 2012 15:38 Ansinjunger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 15:35 Dustin_Butthead wrote:

Third article is about how the SlayerS situation. He said he had no comment and believes it doesn't fit the current situation to talk about SlayerS. He said that while he built the SlayerS team, when he left he made sure that his absence would not destroy or deteriorate the team. When someone asked about SlayerS, BoxeR said that there's issues going on with the team that is hurting BoxeR (not physically but mentally) and Jessica believed that BoxeR's transfer over to SKT would help both teams.



The Koreans are saying team moral is down and Boxer feels betrayed by Taeja and GanZi during GSTL RO8, consequently destroying the SlayerS Terran line. The sense of betrayal is even greater because Boxer was the one who discovered and fostered Taeja and GanZi.

Betrayals such as these are much harder within the KeSPA framework. Maybe that's why Boxer went back.


Source? Your name is Dustin_Butthead, after all. And that post is kind of a drama if true.


Complete bullshit. Posting korean troll posts in english is still troll posts. He needs to be slapped in the face. Twice.
☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 17 2012 06:44 GMT
#985
On August 17 2012 15:39 Kal_rA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 12:29 GTR wrote:
On August 17 2012 12:26 RaiKageRyu wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:57 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:44 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that the organization lock merely concerns player-to-player transition rather than being a more general one.
Boxer leaving Slayers for a former BW-team is a very big event. GSL teams should rightfully start to seriously feel the heat...


Its better for the greater good. GSL teams will eventually (well except for IM) will eventually get assimilated by the Kespa teams. And thus GOM leagues will become the 2nd in hand in esport. Then when Blizzard comes gun blazing about destroying the new scene, Kespa will be the one defending it. And Sc2 have have legion of foreign fans, and cement a new age of Esport because esport shouldn't be determine by how 'dated' a game is. It should be about fans and passion and not a corporate grabbing machine.

Why except IM? Other teams live Startale, MVP, Prime etc all have a lot of good sponsors.


None of them can match the sponsors IM has. If all goes well towards the end of the year and LG becomes an indefinite sponsor, IM will actually join KeSPA.


Won't be surprised considering ACE will most likely not participate in the next Proleague season. They need to make up even numbers some how.

Proper sc2 kespa = progaming licenses for sc2? Courage tourney again? Everyone is taken more seriously?

sweet.

Licenses or not, but I feel like a Courage type of tournament needs to exist so talents can qualify and teams can draft those players. That or teams having open qualifiers for this purpose./
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 06:59:58
August 17 2012 06:47 GMT
#986
On August 17 2012 15:44 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 15:39 Kal_rA wrote:
On August 17 2012 12:29 GTR wrote:
On August 17 2012 12:26 RaiKageRyu wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:57 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:44 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that the organization lock merely concerns player-to-player transition rather than being a more general one.
Boxer leaving Slayers for a former BW-team is a very big event. GSL teams should rightfully start to seriously feel the heat...


Its better for the greater good. GSL teams will eventually (well except for IM) will eventually get assimilated by the Kespa teams. And thus GOM leagues will become the 2nd in hand in esport. Then when Blizzard comes gun blazing about destroying the new scene, Kespa will be the one defending it. And Sc2 have have legion of foreign fans, and cement a new age of Esport because esport shouldn't be determine by how 'dated' a game is. It should be about fans and passion and not a corporate grabbing machine.

Why except IM? Other teams live Startale, MVP, Prime etc all have a lot of good sponsors.


None of them can match the sponsors IM has. If all goes well towards the end of the year and LG becomes an indefinite sponsor, IM will actually join KeSPA.


Won't be surprised considering ACE will most likely not participate in the next Proleague season. They need to make up even numbers some how.

Proper sc2 kespa = progaming licenses for sc2? Courage tourney again? Everyone is taken more seriously?

sweet.

Licenses or not, but I feel like a Courage type of tournament needs to exist so talents can qualify and teams can draft those players. That or teams having open qualifiers for this purpose./

It looks like KeSPA is transitioning its Courage tournament to SC2.

Any GSL players not included in the 25-player roster from the Federation as well as players qualified in the KeSPA-hosted amateur tournament (formerly known as the Courage Match) will be able to join KeSPA teams during its draft period.

http://esfiworld.com/news/kespa-esports-fed-agree-trade-lock-until-oct-2013
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farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
August 17 2012 06:54 GMT
#987
what koreans are speculating seems to be that guys like sleep, crank ir dragon that never said that they will leave in the first place and went to foreign teams without notice were the reason why moral was down.
while taeja and ganzi were certainly more imporltant players they left in consent.

anyways slayers still has a top roster. they have coca, puzzle, genius, mma, alicia among others.
depending on the next few tournaments they might stay or disband but certainly not now
pigfat
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia141 Posts
August 17 2012 07:02 GMT
#988
noooooooooooooo
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 07:59:22
August 17 2012 07:58 GMT
#989
http://esfiworld.com/news/boxer-i-will-help-players-achieve-what-ive-only-dreamt

I don't understand. His name is SlayerS Boxer. How can he just completely leave SlayerS?

Maybe we should have seen that this was his plan all along.
styleworks79
Profile Joined May 2011
United States127 Posts
August 17 2012 08:01 GMT
#990
On August 17 2012 15:54 farnham wrote:
what koreans are speculating seems to be that guys like sleep, crank ir dragon that never said that they will leave in the first place and went to foreign teams without notice were the reason why moral was down.
while taeja and ganzi were certainly more imporltant players they left in consent.

anyways slayers still has a top roster. they have coca, puzzle, genius, mma, alicia among others.
depending on the next few tournaments they might stay or disband but certainly not now



Nor Sleep or Dragon left the Slayers without a notice. I know them personally and they did not leave the team as to what you just have speculated to. As far as Koreans gossiping about this issue is very vague and is rather based upon false info, so it would be wise not to pay too much attention to it. In terms of BoxeR's move, I think it was the right call to make since with HOTS release approaching and OGN boosting sc2 league, it would only benefit BoxeR down the road.
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MrJoKer
Profile Joined November 2011
France232 Posts
August 17 2012 08:26 GMT
#991
Woaw and SlayerS ?
@AbeggJip
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 17 2012 08:26 GMT
#992
There were many difficulties within team SlayerS recently, and I was also very troubled by them. SlayerS manager Jessica suggested me to help my former team, and I took her suggestion and approached SKT T1 first.


Seems like things were a bit complicated.
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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 08:34:43
August 17 2012 08:34 GMT
#993
[image loading]

BOXAH POWAAAHHHH!!1!



EDIT: SKT's gettin it big!
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StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
August 17 2012 08:48 GMT
#994
Return of the King Emperor
Welcome back home.
Gene(S)is
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden419 Posts
August 17 2012 08:48 GMT
#995
He can't be doing it just for the money, I mean you build a team, spend 2 years getting to know players, heck he is even working with his wife(!), why trade it all away for more money?

Doesn't sound like the Boxer I know...
For the swarm
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
August 17 2012 08:55 GMT
#996
it is interesting to see the fuzz about slayers in the last few months...
also the fact that boxer got $250k from intel to start slayers in the first place makes me curious about slayers' future...

at least taeja is save
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
August 17 2012 09:16 GMT
#997
"Coach Lim" .. the fuck, no more Boxer :/
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1921 Posts
August 17 2012 10:25 GMT
#998
Don't you dare not coming back to the stage when this 13 month contract has run out, BoxeR!!!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
August 17 2012 10:29 GMT
#999
On August 17 2012 18:16 anatem wrote:
"Coach Lim" .. the fuck, no more Boxer :/


They can't do that... right? T_T
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jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
August 17 2012 10:42 GMT
#1000
On August 17 2012 14:54 Oreo7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 13:41 LuckyMacro wrote:
On August 17 2012 13:33 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 13:29 evangelos wrote:
On August 17 2012 12:30 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 12:26 RaiKageRyu wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:57 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:44 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that the organization lock merely concerns player-to-player transition rather than being a more general one.
Boxer leaving Slayers for a former BW-team is a very big event. GSL teams should rightfully start to seriously feel the heat...


Its better for the greater good. GSL teams will eventually (well except for IM) will eventually get assimilated by the Kespa teams. And thus GOM leagues will become the 2nd in hand in esport. Then when Blizzard comes gun blazing about destroying the new scene, Kespa will be the one defending it. And Sc2 have have legion of foreign fans, and cement a new age of Esport because esport shouldn't be determine by how 'dated' a game is. It should be about fans and passion and not a corporate grabbing machine.

Why except IM? Other teams live Startale, MVP, Prime etc all have a lot of good sponsors.


None of them can match the sponsors IM has. If all goes well towards the end of the year and LG becomes an indefinite sponsor, IM will actually join KeSPA.

Are you aware that Red Bull is sponsoring Startale?



LOL..Red Bull is not strong enough compares to LG, SAMSUM, KT, SKT.. and the most important thing is that Red Bull is not a Korean Company

What samsum? Also the company redbull probably easily makes more money than all the kespa sponsors except Samsung, but I guess it depends on how much the companies put into the team.


LOL what. Do you know how much those telecommunications companies make? KT for instance made 18.8 billion in revenue in 2010. redbull is nice, but still.


Redbull's a pretty big deal if they throw their weight behind ST. They're the title sponsor of a US soccer team, not the biggest of deals but shows they can be as big a sponsor as is needed if they want.


Pretty much. They sponsored the Sauber F1 team for several years, and then bought the Jaguar team from Ford in 2005, committing $400 million over the first three years for operational expenses. That team won the World Constructors Championship in dominating fashion last year, over efforts from McLaren, Ferrari, and Mercedes. (They own a second team in F1 as well -- Scuderia Toro Rosso.)

I don't know of any company that rivals Red Bull's combination of depth and breadth of expenditure in sporting events. For examples of the latter, see here.
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