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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51694 Posts
August 17 2012 03:29 GMT
#961
On August 17 2012 12:26 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 11:57 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:44 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that the organization lock merely concerns player-to-player transition rather than being a more general one.
Boxer leaving Slayers for a former BW-team is a very big event. GSL teams should rightfully start to seriously feel the heat...


Its better for the greater good. GSL teams will eventually (well except for IM) will eventually get assimilated by the Kespa teams. And thus GOM leagues will become the 2nd in hand in esport. Then when Blizzard comes gun blazing about destroying the new scene, Kespa will be the one defending it. And Sc2 have have legion of foreign fans, and cement a new age of Esport because esport shouldn't be determine by how 'dated' a game is. It should be about fans and passion and not a corporate grabbing machine.

Why except IM? Other teams live Startale, MVP, Prime etc all have a lot of good sponsors.


None of them can match the sponsors IM has. If all goes well towards the end of the year and LG becomes an indefinite sponsor, IM will actually join KeSPA.


Won't be surprised considering ACE will most likely not participate in the next Proleague season. They need to make up even numbers some how.
Commentator
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 17 2012 03:30 GMT
#962
On August 17 2012 12:26 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 11:57 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:44 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that the organization lock merely concerns player-to-player transition rather than being a more general one.
Boxer leaving Slayers for a former BW-team is a very big event. GSL teams should rightfully start to seriously feel the heat...


Its better for the greater good. GSL teams will eventually (well except for IM) will eventually get assimilated by the Kespa teams. And thus GOM leagues will become the 2nd in hand in esport. Then when Blizzard comes gun blazing about destroying the new scene, Kespa will be the one defending it. And Sc2 have have legion of foreign fans, and cement a new age of Esport because esport shouldn't be determine by how 'dated' a game is. It should be about fans and passion and not a corporate grabbing machine.

Why except IM? Other teams live Startale, MVP, Prime etc all have a lot of good sponsors.


None of them can match the sponsors IM has. If all goes well towards the end of the year and LG becomes an indefinite sponsor, IM will actually join KeSPA.

Are you aware that Red Bull is sponsoring Startale?
#TheOneTrueDong
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 03:51:31
August 17 2012 03:49 GMT
#963
On August 17 2012 12:26 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 11:57 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:44 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that the organization lock merely concerns player-to-player transition rather than being a more general one.
Boxer leaving Slayers for a former BW-team is a very big event. GSL teams should rightfully start to seriously feel the heat...


Its better for the greater good. GSL teams will eventually (well except for IM) will eventually get assimilated by the Kespa teams. And thus GOM leagues will become the 2nd in hand in esport. Then when Blizzard comes gun blazing about destroying the new scene, Kespa will be the one defending it. And Sc2 have have legion of foreign fans, and cement a new age of Esport because esport shouldn't be determine by how 'dated' a game is. It should be about fans and passion and not a corporate grabbing machine.

Why except IM? Other teams live Startale, MVP, Prime etc all have a lot of good sponsors.


None of them can match the sponsors IM has. If all goes well towards the end of the year and LG becomes an indefinite sponsor, IM will actually join KeSPA.


I would not be surprised at all if IM becomes a kespa team in the future, they have the sponsorship to qualify. I just don't think it will be that soon because it would be completely unfair to the other Kespa teams for IM to join proleague right now, they would just destroy everyone.

I think Startale, IM and TSL are doing fine financially but the other gom teams are struggling ( just a feeling, no sources )

On August 17 2012 12:28 GTR wrote:
SKT's press conference has been annotated by a Korean ESPORTS site.

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65281
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65275
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65271
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65270


Quick, go TL translators, go!
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
August 17 2012 03:55 GMT
#964
Soooooo I am gonna assume that he will not be playing competitively anymore
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
UTL_Unlimited
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Korea (South)353 Posts
August 17 2012 04:13 GMT
#965
On August 17 2012 12:28 GTR wrote:
SKT's press conference has been annotated by a Korean ESPORTS site.

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65281
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65275
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65271
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65270


The first article is just PR stuff and the only interesting thing I thought was that Park was crazy happy for Boxer to come on and admitted that there's no SC2 experience at all in SKT so they needed BoxeR (I guess PR still). Another cool thing was that BoxeR is super excited to work with Fantasy again and said he's going to fix him up in SC2, and another interesting note was that apparently SlayerS isn't doing so well (it says 사정 so anyone want to think of this as economic or is it results?). Because of Boxer, apparently the writer expects a change in the coaching staff as well (?) as BoxeR will most likely take over for the Terran training, so having the current coaching roster to switch around seems likely. Apparently Park has been asking for help from Boxer for a while and he recently conceded and decided to join SKT again to repay for the lack of help in the past. No clarification on what kind of help but meh. The SlayerS house has the same training system as SKT's since BoxeR and Park made the system of training together apparently.

Second article is about how BoxeR will now focus on coaching but is not going to give up the player side of him. A lot of people said that this is BoxeR retiring and he's hesistant to say that he isn't retiring because he still wants to be a player. But for now, he wants his old team to show those amazing games that he promised his fans but couldn't deliver in the past. The last sentence says he can't promise to return as a player, but he'll try to.

Third article is about how the SlayerS situation. He said he had no comment and believes it doesn't fit the current situation to talk about SlayerS. He said that while he built the SlayerS team, when he left he made sure that his absence would not destroy or deteriorate the team. When someone asked about SlayerS, BoxeR said that there's issues going on with the team that is hurting BoxeR (not physically but mentally) and Jessica believed that BoxeR's transfer over to SKT would help both teams.

Fourth article is about how BoxeR actually REALLYYY wanted to come back to SKT for 2 years, but because he left on his own accord, he felt that he would cause trouble for his fans and felt sorry about the leave. However, due to his own struggles and SKT's lack of results right now, so he thought a synergy between the two would help both sides so BoxeR contacted SKT first. The rest is about how BoxeR will be the SKT Terran coach.

No verbatim, so there's probably better translations out there.

Need to write more things...
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 17 2012 04:16 GMT
#966
On August 17 2012 13:13 UTL_Unlimited wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 12:28 GTR wrote:
SKT's press conference has been annotated by a Korean ESPORTS site.

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65281
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65275
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65271
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65270


snip


Thanks you are awesome.
evangelos
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1 Post
August 17 2012 04:29 GMT
#967
On August 17 2012 12:30 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 12:26 RaiKageRyu wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:57 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:44 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that the organization lock merely concerns player-to-player transition rather than being a more general one.
Boxer leaving Slayers for a former BW-team is a very big event. GSL teams should rightfully start to seriously feel the heat...


Its better for the greater good. GSL teams will eventually (well except for IM) will eventually get assimilated by the Kespa teams. And thus GOM leagues will become the 2nd in hand in esport. Then when Blizzard comes gun blazing about destroying the new scene, Kespa will be the one defending it. And Sc2 have have legion of foreign fans, and cement a new age of Esport because esport shouldn't be determine by how 'dated' a game is. It should be about fans and passion and not a corporate grabbing machine.

Why except IM? Other teams live Startale, MVP, Prime etc all have a lot of good sponsors.


None of them can match the sponsors IM has. If all goes well towards the end of the year and LG becomes an indefinite sponsor, IM will actually join KeSPA.

Are you aware that Red Bull is sponsoring Startale?



LOL..Red Bull is not strong enough compares to LG, SAMSUM, KT, SKT.. and the most important thing is that Red Bull is not a Korean Company
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 17 2012 04:33 GMT
#968
On August 17 2012 13:29 evangelos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 12:30 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 12:26 RaiKageRyu wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:57 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:44 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that the organization lock merely concerns player-to-player transition rather than being a more general one.
Boxer leaving Slayers for a former BW-team is a very big event. GSL teams should rightfully start to seriously feel the heat...


Its better for the greater good. GSL teams will eventually (well except for IM) will eventually get assimilated by the Kespa teams. And thus GOM leagues will become the 2nd in hand in esport. Then when Blizzard comes gun blazing about destroying the new scene, Kespa will be the one defending it. And Sc2 have have legion of foreign fans, and cement a new age of Esport because esport shouldn't be determine by how 'dated' a game is. It should be about fans and passion and not a corporate grabbing machine.

Why except IM? Other teams live Startale, MVP, Prime etc all have a lot of good sponsors.


None of them can match the sponsors IM has. If all goes well towards the end of the year and LG becomes an indefinite sponsor, IM will actually join KeSPA.

Are you aware that Red Bull is sponsoring Startale?



LOL..Red Bull is not strong enough compares to LG, SAMSUM, KT, SKT.. and the most important thing is that Red Bull is not a Korean Company

What samsum? Also the company redbull probably easily makes more money than all the kespa sponsors except Samsung, but I guess it depends on how much the companies put into the team.
#TheOneTrueDong
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
August 17 2012 04:41 GMT
#969
On August 17 2012 13:33 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 13:29 evangelos wrote:
On August 17 2012 12:30 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 12:26 RaiKageRyu wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:57 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:44 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that the organization lock merely concerns player-to-player transition rather than being a more general one.
Boxer leaving Slayers for a former BW-team is a very big event. GSL teams should rightfully start to seriously feel the heat...


Its better for the greater good. GSL teams will eventually (well except for IM) will eventually get assimilated by the Kespa teams. And thus GOM leagues will become the 2nd in hand in esport. Then when Blizzard comes gun blazing about destroying the new scene, Kespa will be the one defending it. And Sc2 have have legion of foreign fans, and cement a new age of Esport because esport shouldn't be determine by how 'dated' a game is. It should be about fans and passion and not a corporate grabbing machine.

Why except IM? Other teams live Startale, MVP, Prime etc all have a lot of good sponsors.


None of them can match the sponsors IM has. If all goes well towards the end of the year and LG becomes an indefinite sponsor, IM will actually join KeSPA.

Are you aware that Red Bull is sponsoring Startale?



LOL..Red Bull is not strong enough compares to LG, SAMSUM, KT, SKT.. and the most important thing is that Red Bull is not a Korean Company

What samsum? Also the company redbull probably easily makes more money than all the kespa sponsors except Samsung, but I guess it depends on how much the companies put into the team.


LOL what. Do you know how much those telecommunications companies make? KT for instance made 18.8 billion in revenue in 2010. redbull is nice, but still.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 17 2012 04:44 GMT
#970
The problem with trying to compare this is that we don't know how much money Red Bull is spending on Startale, it could be a lot or it could not be a lot compared to the kespa teams/IM.
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
August 17 2012 04:47 GMT
#971
On August 17 2012 12:55 Dontkillme wrote:
Soooooo I am gonna assume that he will not be playing competitively anymore


His contract as a coach is 13 months long, which happens to end right before the Kespa-Feds no poaching agreement ends. Lot of crazy speculations and theories are coming up, but we'll see how it really goes down.
☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆
Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
August 17 2012 04:55 GMT
#972
On August 17 2012 13:13 UTL_Unlimited wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 12:28 GTR wrote:
SKT's press conference has been annotated by a Korean ESPORTS site.

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65281
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65275
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65271
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65270

Third article is about how the SlayerS situation. He said he had no comment and believes it doesn't fit the current situation to talk about SlayerS. He said that while he built the SlayerS team, when he left he made sure that his absence would not destroy or deteriorate the team. When someone asked about SlayerS, BoxeR said that there's issues going on with the team that is hurting BoxeR (not physically but mentally) and Jessica believed that BoxeR's transfer over to SKT would help both teams.

Sounds like working together on team SlayerS may have taken a toll on the love life of Jessica and Boxer. Probably nothing major, but doing business with loved ones can be troublesome. Working apart makes it much easier to separate business and romance.

All speculation, of course.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 04:57:00
August 17 2012 04:56 GMT
#973
SlayerS are so going to join proleague for next season... ahhh conspiracy theories
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
August 17 2012 05:54 GMT
#974
On August 17 2012 13:41 LuckyMacro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 13:33 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 13:29 evangelos wrote:
On August 17 2012 12:30 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 12:26 RaiKageRyu wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:57 TommyP wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:
On August 17 2012 11:44 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that the organization lock merely concerns player-to-player transition rather than being a more general one.
Boxer leaving Slayers for a former BW-team is a very big event. GSL teams should rightfully start to seriously feel the heat...


Its better for the greater good. GSL teams will eventually (well except for IM) will eventually get assimilated by the Kespa teams. And thus GOM leagues will become the 2nd in hand in esport. Then when Blizzard comes gun blazing about destroying the new scene, Kespa will be the one defending it. And Sc2 have have legion of foreign fans, and cement a new age of Esport because esport shouldn't be determine by how 'dated' a game is. It should be about fans and passion and not a corporate grabbing machine.

Why except IM? Other teams live Startale, MVP, Prime etc all have a lot of good sponsors.


None of them can match the sponsors IM has. If all goes well towards the end of the year and LG becomes an indefinite sponsor, IM will actually join KeSPA.

Are you aware that Red Bull is sponsoring Startale?



LOL..Red Bull is not strong enough compares to LG, SAMSUM, KT, SKT.. and the most important thing is that Red Bull is not a Korean Company

What samsum? Also the company redbull probably easily makes more money than all the kespa sponsors except Samsung, but I guess it depends on how much the companies put into the team.


LOL what. Do you know how much those telecommunications companies make? KT for instance made 18.8 billion in revenue in 2010. redbull is nice, but still.


Redbull's a pretty big deal if they throw their weight behind ST. They're the title sponsor of a US soccer team, not the biggest of deals but shows they can be as big a sponsor as is needed if they want.
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
DeathPengu
Profile Joined January 2011
Taiwan137 Posts
August 17 2012 05:54 GMT
#975
On August 17 2012 13:13 UTL_Unlimited wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 12:28 GTR wrote:
SKT's press conference has been annotated by a Korean ESPORTS site.

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65281
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65275
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65271
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65270


The first article is just PR stuff and the only interesting thing I thought was that Park was crazy happy for Boxer to come on and admitted that there's no SC2 experience at all in SKT so they needed BoxeR (I guess PR still). Another cool thing was that BoxeR is super excited to work with Fantasy again and said he's going to fix him up in SC2, and another interesting note was that apparently SlayerS isn't doing so well (it says 사정 so anyone want to think of this as economic or is it results?). Because of Boxer, apparently the writer expects a change in the coaching staff as well (?) as BoxeR will most likely take over for the Terran training, so having the current coaching roster to switch around seems likely. Apparently Park has been asking for help from Boxer for a while and he recently conceded and decided to join SKT again to repay for the lack of help in the past. No clarification on what kind of help but meh. The SlayerS house has the same training system as SKT's since BoxeR and Park made the system of training together apparently.

Second article is about how BoxeR will now focus on coaching but is not going to give up the player side of him. A lot of people said that this is BoxeR retiring and he's hesistant to say that he isn't retiring because he still wants to be a player. But for now, he wants his old team to show those amazing games that he promised his fans but couldn't deliver in the past. The last sentence says he can't promise to return as a player, but he'll try to.

Third article is about how the SlayerS situation. He said he had no comment and believes it doesn't fit the current situation to talk about SlayerS. He said that while he built the SlayerS team, when he left he made sure that his absence would not destroy or deteriorate the team. When someone asked about SlayerS, BoxeR said that there's issues going on with the team that is hurting BoxeR (not physically but mentally) and Jessica believed that BoxeR's transfer over to SKT would help both teams.

Fourth article is about how BoxeR actually REALLYYY wanted to come back to SKT for 2 years, but because he left on his own accord, he felt that he would cause trouble for his fans and felt sorry about the leave. However, due to his own struggles and SKT's lack of results right now, so he thought a synergy between the two would help both sides so BoxeR contacted SKT first. The rest is about how BoxeR will be the SKT Terran coach.

No verbatim, so there's probably better translations out there.


Thank you so much for the traslation. And I think this is the death sentence to the SlayerS.
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
August 17 2012 06:16 GMT
#976
Best of luck to you BoxeR!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 17 2012 06:24 GMT
#977
I certainly don't hope that this is a death sentence to SlayerS. I want the GomTV leagues to continue with strength as it would be a lot of more boring if there was only Kespa without any local competition.
1a2a3a[MB]
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States297 Posts
August 17 2012 06:28 GMT
#978
He is not retired he said he would change his race in HoTS and return to his Bonjwa state as SKT once again
RIP Teams Hwaseung OZ, WeMadeFox, MBC Game Hero, Air Force ACE, ZeNEX, SlayerS, Quantic-Vile, TSL, mTw
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
August 17 2012 06:29 GMT
#979
I dont want Slayers to die, hopefully Slayers will be able to survive and hopefully MMA doesnt leave now since his mentor has left him for his other son
Dustin_Butthead
Profile Joined August 2012
36 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 06:37:08
August 17 2012 06:35 GMT
#980

Third article is about how the SlayerS situation. He said he had no comment and believes it doesn't fit the current situation to talk about SlayerS. He said that while he built the SlayerS team, when he left he made sure that his absence would not destroy or deteriorate the team. When someone asked about SlayerS, BoxeR said that there's issues going on with the team that is hurting BoxeR (not physically but mentally) and Jessica believed that BoxeR's transfer over to SKT would help both teams.



The Koreans are saying team moral is down and Boxer feels betrayed by Taeja and GanZi during GSTL RO8, consequently destroying the SlayerS Terran line. The sense of betrayal is even greater because Boxer was the one who discovered and fostered Taeja and GanZi.

Betrayals such as these are much harder within the KeSPA framework. Maybe that's why Boxer went back.
Who cares about making a good game. Hey guys, WHAT'S COOOOOOOOOL?!?!?!?!?!
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