IPL5 to host Code S Ro8 to the Grand Finals - Page 28

On August 12 2012 23:08 MrKn4rz wrote:

Name more then 2 Foreigners who ARE on par with top level Koreans.

On August 12 2012 23:37 killerdog wrote:
The people saying that a day is plenty of time to practice don't seem understand what it is that makes GSL unique, it's the same reason tournaments like OSL and MSL have always had such good games, and that is that the players spend several days preparing for each MAP in the series, they prepare a special unique build for each game in the series after having spent hours analysing vods of the opponents play to try and determine their weaknesses and this leads to games which are both unique and of the highest possible level. This is why the GSL is the best tournament, because every game played in it is a test not only of mechanics and game sense but also of a players ability to plan a BoX, to prepare specific strategies, to innovate and analyse.

If you are seriously telling me that this level of competition can be maintained while jet-lagged, playing in two tournaments and with less then a days preparation (which takes place in a much worse practice environment then a team house) then I wish you all the best in life, but i don't see how gom can possible see this as a good idea. Gom has based it's entire buisiness model off the fact that it is the only premier korean sc2 league, and therefore they can afford to have no vods despite broadcasting at shitty hours, and to have the free stream be 240p (with supply counts unreadable.) But with the OSL about to start they are suddenly going to have competition, so the only thing going for it right now is that it has the best games of any tournament in the world. If this ends up happening then GSL is basically relegated to just another weekend tournament, and i don't see how the "GSL champion" title will anywhere near the same weight compared to the title of "OSL" champion... Don't do this to yourself gom >.<

On August 12 2012 23:48 ohampatu wrote:



no one is disagreeing with all you guys who feel like posting the same exact thing over and over in a big wall of text

just some of us dont mind a small change and a gauntlet style tournament. Yes, not having the preparation sucks. But its not the fucking end of the world. The finals will be better than most gsl finals, GSL is notorious for having bad finals. And that is partly due to the 'preparation' time you guys all seem to love. Kinda funny actually. Bad Finals=Constant Bitching for a few days, when the reasons the finals are bad are the reasons you love the tournament.

On August 12 2012 23:53 Shiori wrote:

Anyone who thinks the GSL finals are underwhelming is an idiot. The GSL is where all of the metagame changes come from. Don't expect many if every game is played right after the next.

On August 12 2012 23:25 ohampatu wrote:
My 5v5. A bit differant than others. Idk why you guys keep putting players like MVP and Nestea in. They are not worthy in their current form.

Foreigners: Naniwa, Stephano, Thorzain for sure. The last two are up for grabs. Nerchio/Kas/Vortix/Scarlett/Mana could all be good choices. But i would also like Illusion/Macsen for a couple of dark horses. Really, apart from the 3 listed, we dont have any 'good' foreigners left with the results needed to be in the group.

Korea: Taeja, MKP, Seed, MC. The 5th is hard, really want a zerg DRG/Curious would be my picks.
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The Tournament: Im perfectly fine with hosting Ro8-Finals, doing each round on a seperate day. Yes its less preparation, but the KR coaches are pretty fucking good. I remember when STC was in mlg and couldn't beat (stephano??) the player he was pl aying. TheWind called him up and told him how to win. Shit like that is awesome. 1 gauntlet style tournament wont kill us.

IPL wont be the production team, last time GOM was in charge of production. So that should be as high as normal for GOM standards.

All-in All. Im pretty excited

On August 13 2012 00:08 Zer atai wrote:
How about let's compromise, have the Ro4 and the finals, not the quarterfinals.

As for the 5v5, since it is kind of a "showmatch", GSL and IPL might just choose the big name players such as MVP, Nestea, MC, MKP, MMA, DRG, etc, over players who have looked strong recently but don't have such large fan followings. Of course, that's just theorizing by me.

On August 13 2012 00:08 Zer atai wrote:
How about let's compromise, have the Ro4 and the finals, not the quarterfinals.

On August 12 2012 23:57 ohampatu wrote:



Lol. There are have been 3 good finals in GSL in 2 years. 4-1 roflstomps are common. And no, the metagame changes come from KR, but not just the finals. And sometimes not even then (stephano changing zvp for instance). Im not disagreeing with you. Just stating what appears to be facts. Yes some people may think a 4-1 stomp is a good final. But id rather a 4-3 with back and forth action. Its both awesome and sad to see a player completely dismantle his opponent due to preparation. A gauntlet style tourney wont ruin esports. you'll live


edit: and i never said they were underwhelming. But just because the finals aren't underwhelming doesn't mean they are good. Weve only recently had good GSL finals. We went through 1.5 years of shitty rofl stomps

On August 13 2012 00:19 Shiori wrote:
People don't realize that the prep. time is what makes the GSL so prestigious.

On August 13 2012 00:11 Bagration wrote:


As for the 5v5, since it is kind of a "showmatch", GSL and IPL might just choose the big name players such as MVP, Nestea, MC, MKP, MMA, DRG, etc, over players who have looked strong recently but don't have such large fan followings. Of course, that's just theorizing by me.

On August 12 2012 23:13 TeeTS wrote:


?? I don't know a single one....

On August 13 2012 00:13 ohampatu wrote:



True they may. I realize GOM is a business so they will go for maximum revenue. I just think some of our newer GSL champions and upcoming players aren't getting the attention they deserve. They still feel like they are 'in the shadows' when in all realistic combinations, MVP and Nestea will prolly never again be who they were. We can't keep choosing the old gods over the new ones. It undermimes the up and coming players achievments. All depends on how GOM approaches it. Do they go for current max skill, or do they go for max revenue?

On August 13 2012 00:16 sixfour wrote:
aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha just read the first two pages and cannot believe the amount of hate