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Nice to hear that some big sponsors are coming out to support ogn as it switches into sc2
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On August 05 2012 23:51 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 23:39 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2012 23:34 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:32 Chargelot wrote:
@Milkis
My point was not that OSL/OGN relied upon the community. I don't disagree that the major KR events/organizations had huge sponsorships in BW. It was more about everything else. To call SC2 community driven in comparison to BW which to this day was still community driven outside of Korea (Sayle, anyone?) is pretty silly. ehh i just didnt like the fact that you just listed a bunch of corporations without knowing how much they actually sponsored. i mean listing some of the beverage companies that sponsor teams with free drinks is kind of like "uhhhhh" Pepsi sponsored a whole season of GSL, and I think Coke did the same? If they did, that was really early on. Hot 6ix sponsored this past GSL. But yeah, some of those company's haven't provided much. But what they have provided can't be boiled down to community driving. If anything, the SC2 community has/is done/doing far less for its game than the BW community did, and can take a lesson from the BW community and do more for it. If we had the community at our backs like BW did, there wouldn't even be questions about our validity because we'd be in such a stronger position. For now it feels like we only survive on the corporate dollars, not because we have community. the stuff about beverages was just a passing comment~ i'm just noting that the sponsors are fairly small, even the ones that sponsored gsl (gsl is dirt cheap to sponsor compared to osl/msl and it shows) the thing is bw died exactly because the community did not want to support it. it's because the big leagues were so dependent on sponsors that the sponsors had full control of the scene like in bw (hi kespa). there was never a community that supported bw in korea and if there's some now it's a bit "too little too late" because it's hard to get new people hooked. it's what's forcing the switch and the sponsors aren't really listening to the fans cause the fans think everything should be free i dunno, sc2 is still more community based than bw ever was. i mean, community is willing to pay to support leagues which i think is great, because it just means as long as the money is there the scene will survive, although maybe it'll downsize a bit. i dunno how the leagues are doing exactly in financial situations but i figure people are paying for it and then trying to get sponsors to help mount the costs. it needs to be a community sponsored endeavor if it wants to survive past the current phases where most of the biggest leagues (probably) aren't profitable yet
Do you know why GSL is cheaper to sponsor? Looking up what OSL pays out every season vs GSL, GSL gives out a lot more prize money. ( to every player in code a/s ) Does OGN have larger production expenses or does the finals venue cost more to use?
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On August 06 2012 01:20 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 23:51 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:39 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2012 23:34 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:32 Chargelot wrote:
@Milkis
My point was not that OSL/OGN relied upon the community. I don't disagree that the major KR events/organizations had huge sponsorships in BW. It was more about everything else. To call SC2 community driven in comparison to BW which to this day was still community driven outside of Korea (Sayle, anyone?) is pretty silly. ehh i just didnt like the fact that you just listed a bunch of corporations without knowing how much they actually sponsored. i mean listing some of the beverage companies that sponsor teams with free drinks is kind of like "uhhhhh" Pepsi sponsored a whole season of GSL, and I think Coke did the same? If they did, that was really early on. Hot 6ix sponsored this past GSL. But yeah, some of those company's haven't provided much. But what they have provided can't be boiled down to community driving. If anything, the SC2 community has/is done/doing far less for its game than the BW community did, and can take a lesson from the BW community and do more for it. If we had the community at our backs like BW did, there wouldn't even be questions about our validity because we'd be in such a stronger position. For now it feels like we only survive on the corporate dollars, not because we have community. the stuff about beverages was just a passing comment~ i'm just noting that the sponsors are fairly small, even the ones that sponsored gsl (gsl is dirt cheap to sponsor compared to osl/msl and it shows) the thing is bw died exactly because the community did not want to support it. it's because the big leagues were so dependent on sponsors that the sponsors had full control of the scene like in bw (hi kespa). there was never a community that supported bw in korea and if there's some now it's a bit "too little too late" because it's hard to get new people hooked. it's what's forcing the switch and the sponsors aren't really listening to the fans cause the fans think everything should be free i dunno, sc2 is still more community based than bw ever was. i mean, community is willing to pay to support leagues which i think is great, because it just means as long as the money is there the scene will survive, although maybe it'll downsize a bit. i dunno how the leagues are doing exactly in financial situations but i figure people are paying for it and then trying to get sponsors to help mount the costs. it needs to be a community sponsored endeavor if it wants to survive past the current phases where most of the biggest leagues (probably) aren't profitable yet Do you know why GSL is cheaper to sponsor? Looking up what OSL pays out every season vs GSL, GSL gives out a lot more prize money. ( to every player in code a/s ) Does OGN have larger production expenses or does the finals venue cost more to use?
OSL fills up a stadium.
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On August 06 2012 01:37 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 01:20 Dodgin wrote:On August 05 2012 23:51 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:39 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2012 23:34 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:32 Chargelot wrote:
@Milkis
My point was not that OSL/OGN relied upon the community. I don't disagree that the major KR events/organizations had huge sponsorships in BW. It was more about everything else. To call SC2 community driven in comparison to BW which to this day was still community driven outside of Korea (Sayle, anyone?) is pretty silly. ehh i just didnt like the fact that you just listed a bunch of corporations without knowing how much they actually sponsored. i mean listing some of the beverage companies that sponsor teams with free drinks is kind of like "uhhhhh" Pepsi sponsored a whole season of GSL, and I think Coke did the same? If they did, that was really early on. Hot 6ix sponsored this past GSL. But yeah, some of those company's haven't provided much. But what they have provided can't be boiled down to community driving. If anything, the SC2 community has/is done/doing far less for its game than the BW community did, and can take a lesson from the BW community and do more for it. If we had the community at our backs like BW did, there wouldn't even be questions about our validity because we'd be in such a stronger position. For now it feels like we only survive on the corporate dollars, not because we have community. the stuff about beverages was just a passing comment~ i'm just noting that the sponsors are fairly small, even the ones that sponsored gsl (gsl is dirt cheap to sponsor compared to osl/msl and it shows) the thing is bw died exactly because the community did not want to support it. it's because the big leagues were so dependent on sponsors that the sponsors had full control of the scene like in bw (hi kespa). there was never a community that supported bw in korea and if there's some now it's a bit "too little too late" because it's hard to get new people hooked. it's what's forcing the switch and the sponsors aren't really listening to the fans cause the fans think everything should be free i dunno, sc2 is still more community based than bw ever was. i mean, community is willing to pay to support leagues which i think is great, because it just means as long as the money is there the scene will survive, although maybe it'll downsize a bit. i dunno how the leagues are doing exactly in financial situations but i figure people are paying for it and then trying to get sponsors to help mount the costs. it needs to be a community sponsored endeavor if it wants to survive past the current phases where most of the biggest leagues (probably) aren't profitable yet Do you know why GSL is cheaper to sponsor? Looking up what OSL pays out every season vs GSL, GSL gives out a lot more prize money. ( to every player in code a/s ) Does OGN have larger production expenses or does the finals venue cost more to use? OSL fills up a stadium.
That doesn't really answer my question at all, they don't charge for seats at the finals so how many people go does not matter at all, I was asking if renting that venue is more expensive than building a stage on the beach for example.
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foreign viewers, especially Americans, are worth lots and lots of money. Because not only are they much more (great emphasis here)willing to pay for digital goods (in this case, sc2 contents), and they are willing to pay alot due to having a higher income and greater spending habit
the seasonal sc2 tickets for GSL are probably a huge portion of their revenue
I'm speaking this with some marketing experience.
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On August 05 2012 13:04 Bippzy wrote:You can say that again. Glad to see that they are sponsored and can't wait to get to know the Elephant koreans in english when Doa starts casting!
It really is misleading, i though OSL were in trouble
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On August 06 2012 01:43 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 01:37 Shiori wrote:On August 06 2012 01:20 Dodgin wrote:On August 05 2012 23:51 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:39 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2012 23:34 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:32 Chargelot wrote:
@Milkis
My point was not that OSL/OGN relied upon the community. I don't disagree that the major KR events/organizations had huge sponsorships in BW. It was more about everything else. To call SC2 community driven in comparison to BW which to this day was still community driven outside of Korea (Sayle, anyone?) is pretty silly. ehh i just didnt like the fact that you just listed a bunch of corporations without knowing how much they actually sponsored. i mean listing some of the beverage companies that sponsor teams with free drinks is kind of like "uhhhhh" Pepsi sponsored a whole season of GSL, and I think Coke did the same? If they did, that was really early on. Hot 6ix sponsored this past GSL. But yeah, some of those company's haven't provided much. But what they have provided can't be boiled down to community driving. If anything, the SC2 community has/is done/doing far less for its game than the BW community did, and can take a lesson from the BW community and do more for it. If we had the community at our backs like BW did, there wouldn't even be questions about our validity because we'd be in such a stronger position. For now it feels like we only survive on the corporate dollars, not because we have community. the stuff about beverages was just a passing comment~ i'm just noting that the sponsors are fairly small, even the ones that sponsored gsl (gsl is dirt cheap to sponsor compared to osl/msl and it shows) the thing is bw died exactly because the community did not want to support it. it's because the big leagues were so dependent on sponsors that the sponsors had full control of the scene like in bw (hi kespa). there was never a community that supported bw in korea and if there's some now it's a bit "too little too late" because it's hard to get new people hooked. it's what's forcing the switch and the sponsors aren't really listening to the fans cause the fans think everything should be free i dunno, sc2 is still more community based than bw ever was. i mean, community is willing to pay to support leagues which i think is great, because it just means as long as the money is there the scene will survive, although maybe it'll downsize a bit. i dunno how the leagues are doing exactly in financial situations but i figure people are paying for it and then trying to get sponsors to help mount the costs. it needs to be a community sponsored endeavor if it wants to survive past the current phases where most of the biggest leagues (probably) aren't profitable yet Do you know why GSL is cheaper to sponsor? Looking up what OSL pays out every season vs GSL, GSL gives out a lot more prize money. ( to every player in code a/s ) Does OGN have larger production expenses or does the finals venue cost more to use? OSL fills up a stadium. That doesn't really answer my question at all, they don't charge for seats at the finals so how many people go does not matter at all, I was asking if renting that venue is more expensive than building a stage on the beach for example.
I'd say the venues are probably comparable, depending on the matchups. The difference is that bigger sponsors want to sponsor the OSL because it's literally the biggest event they could go to. It's kinda like buying primetime ad space, you know? And that means it's highly competitive. The OSL can accept or reject sponsors based on their bids, because it knows that it's a highly sought commodity. So in that sense, it costs a lot to sponsor because OSL has lots of options.
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On August 06 2012 02:05 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 01:43 Dodgin wrote:On August 06 2012 01:37 Shiori wrote:On August 06 2012 01:20 Dodgin wrote:On August 05 2012 23:51 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:39 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2012 23:34 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:32 Chargelot wrote:
@Milkis
My point was not that OSL/OGN relied upon the community. I don't disagree that the major KR events/organizations had huge sponsorships in BW. It was more about everything else. To call SC2 community driven in comparison to BW which to this day was still community driven outside of Korea (Sayle, anyone?) is pretty silly. ehh i just didnt like the fact that you just listed a bunch of corporations without knowing how much they actually sponsored. i mean listing some of the beverage companies that sponsor teams with free drinks is kind of like "uhhhhh" Pepsi sponsored a whole season of GSL, and I think Coke did the same? If they did, that was really early on. Hot 6ix sponsored this past GSL. But yeah, some of those company's haven't provided much. But what they have provided can't be boiled down to community driving. If anything, the SC2 community has/is done/doing far less for its game than the BW community did, and can take a lesson from the BW community and do more for it. If we had the community at our backs like BW did, there wouldn't even be questions about our validity because we'd be in such a stronger position. For now it feels like we only survive on the corporate dollars, not because we have community. the stuff about beverages was just a passing comment~ i'm just noting that the sponsors are fairly small, even the ones that sponsored gsl (gsl is dirt cheap to sponsor compared to osl/msl and it shows) the thing is bw died exactly because the community did not want to support it. it's because the big leagues were so dependent on sponsors that the sponsors had full control of the scene like in bw (hi kespa). there was never a community that supported bw in korea and if there's some now it's a bit "too little too late" because it's hard to get new people hooked. it's what's forcing the switch and the sponsors aren't really listening to the fans cause the fans think everything should be free i dunno, sc2 is still more community based than bw ever was. i mean, community is willing to pay to support leagues which i think is great, because it just means as long as the money is there the scene will survive, although maybe it'll downsize a bit. i dunno how the leagues are doing exactly in financial situations but i figure people are paying for it and then trying to get sponsors to help mount the costs. it needs to be a community sponsored endeavor if it wants to survive past the current phases where most of the biggest leagues (probably) aren't profitable yet Do you know why GSL is cheaper to sponsor? Looking up what OSL pays out every season vs GSL, GSL gives out a lot more prize money. ( to every player in code a/s ) Does OGN have larger production expenses or does the finals venue cost more to use? OSL fills up a stadium. That doesn't really answer my question at all, they don't charge for seats at the finals so how many people go does not matter at all, I was asking if renting that venue is more expensive than building a stage on the beach for example. I'd say the venues are probably comparable, depending on the matchups. The difference is that bigger sponsors want to sponsor the OSL because it's literally the biggest event they could go to. It's kinda like buying primetime ad space, you know? And that means it's highly competitive. The OSL can accept or reject sponsors based on their bids, because it knows that it's a highly sought commodity. So in that sense, it costs a lot to sponsor because OSL has lots of options.
I suppose that makes sense, you just wouldn't think about it in that sense because they have had trouble finding sponsors that aren't related to the kespa proteams at the end of BW. If what milkis says is correct they have had multiple companies talk to them about sponsoring an sc2 OSL then I guess it would be true now.
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I hope this helps SC2 to become more popular in Korea.
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The question isn't so much "will SC2 become popular in Korea?," the question is how much more popular it will become. There absolutely will be an increase in both the # of SC2 users and the # of SC2 viewers in Korea, it's just how great the increase is and what rate it occurs at.
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On August 05 2012 19:47 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Great!
Too bad for GSL though, which is now demoted to MSL-little-brother-status.
<3
Not yet.
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On August 06 2012 02:31 Atlasy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 19:47 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Great!
Too bad for GSL though, which is now demoted to MSL-little-brother-status.
<3 Not yet.
Agreed, GSL is still up there.
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that was soooo misleading hahaha
On August 06 2012 02:02 iky43210 wrote:
foreign viewers, especially Americans, are worth lots and lots of money. Because not only are they much more (great emphasis here)willing to pay for digital goods (in this case, sc2 contents), and they are willing to pay alot due to having a higher income and greater spending habit
the seasonal sc2 tickets for GSL are probably a huge portion of their revenue
I'm speaking this with some marketing experience.
yup. that gom thing really pissed me off
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On August 05 2012 23:39 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 23:34 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:32 Chargelot wrote:
@Milkis
My point was not that OSL/OGN relied upon the community. I don't disagree that the major KR events/organizations had huge sponsorships in BW. It was more about everything else. To call SC2 community driven in comparison to BW which to this day was still community driven outside of Korea (Sayle, anyone?) is pretty silly. ehh i just didnt like the fact that you just listed a bunch of corporations without knowing how much they actually sponsored. i mean listing some of the beverage companies that sponsor teams with free drinks is kind of like "uhhhhh" Pepsi sponsored a whole season of GSL, and I think Coke did the same? If they did, that was really early on. Hot 6ix sponsored this past GSL. But yeah, some of those company's haven't provided much. But what they have provided can't be boiled down to community driving. If anything, the SC2 community has/is done/doing far less for its game than the BW community did, and can take a lesson from the BW community and do more for it. If we had the community at our backs like BW did, there wouldn't even be questions about our validity because we'd be in such a stronger position. For now it feels like we only survive on the corporate dollars, not because we have community.
The same community that has funds MKP to Orlando and pays for PPV events, happily spends $60 for a spectator pass at MLG, and regularly buys subscription deals through twitch/GOM?
I would wager the average viewer of SC2 injects more money back into the scene than the average fan of BW ever did.
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On August 06 2012 01:20 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 23:51 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:39 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2012 23:34 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:32 Chargelot wrote:
@Milkis
My point was not that OSL/OGN relied upon the community. I don't disagree that the major KR events/organizations had huge sponsorships in BW. It was more about everything else. To call SC2 community driven in comparison to BW which to this day was still community driven outside of Korea (Sayle, anyone?) is pretty silly. ehh i just didnt like the fact that you just listed a bunch of corporations without knowing how much they actually sponsored. i mean listing some of the beverage companies that sponsor teams with free drinks is kind of like "uhhhhh" Pepsi sponsored a whole season of GSL, and I think Coke did the same? If they did, that was really early on. Hot 6ix sponsored this past GSL. But yeah, some of those company's haven't provided much. But what they have provided can't be boiled down to community driving. If anything, the SC2 community has/is done/doing far less for its game than the BW community did, and can take a lesson from the BW community and do more for it. If we had the community at our backs like BW did, there wouldn't even be questions about our validity because we'd be in such a stronger position. For now it feels like we only survive on the corporate dollars, not because we have community. the stuff about beverages was just a passing comment~ i'm just noting that the sponsors are fairly small, even the ones that sponsored gsl (gsl is dirt cheap to sponsor compared to osl/msl and it shows) the thing is bw died exactly because the community did not want to support it. it's because the big leagues were so dependent on sponsors that the sponsors had full control of the scene like in bw (hi kespa). there was never a community that supported bw in korea and if there's some now it's a bit "too little too late" because it's hard to get new people hooked. it's what's forcing the switch and the sponsors aren't really listening to the fans cause the fans think everything should be free i dunno, sc2 is still more community based than bw ever was. i mean, community is willing to pay to support leagues which i think is great, because it just means as long as the money is there the scene will survive, although maybe it'll downsize a bit. i dunno how the leagues are doing exactly in financial situations but i figure people are paying for it and then trying to get sponsors to help mount the costs. it needs to be a community sponsored endeavor if it wants to survive past the current phases where most of the biggest leagues (probably) aren't profitable yet Do you know why GSL is cheaper to sponsor? Looking up what OSL pays out every season vs GSL, GSL gives out a lot more prize money. ( to every player in code a/s ) Does OGN have larger production expenses or does the finals venue cost more to use?
1) From what I recall Blizzard sponsored a large chunk of the prize money the last two seasons.
2) The only thing Gom has over OGN in production is that they broadcast in a higher definition. Past that production quality of Gom is far inferior to OGN.
3) OGN is a cable tv channel. GOM broadcasts online. There are far less costs involved in the latter.
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On August 06 2012 03:10 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 02:31 Atlasy wrote:On August 05 2012 19:47 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Great!
Too bad for GSL though, which is now demoted to MSL-little-brother-status.
<3 Not yet. Agreed, GSL is still up there.
I hope not. OGN is capable of much more I feel
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On August 06 2012 03:33 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 01:20 Dodgin wrote:On August 05 2012 23:51 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:39 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2012 23:34 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:32 Chargelot wrote:
@Milkis
My point was not that OSL/OGN relied upon the community. I don't disagree that the major KR events/organizations had huge sponsorships in BW. It was more about everything else. To call SC2 community driven in comparison to BW which to this day was still community driven outside of Korea (Sayle, anyone?) is pretty silly. ehh i just didnt like the fact that you just listed a bunch of corporations without knowing how much they actually sponsored. i mean listing some of the beverage companies that sponsor teams with free drinks is kind of like "uhhhhh" Pepsi sponsored a whole season of GSL, and I think Coke did the same? If they did, that was really early on. Hot 6ix sponsored this past GSL. But yeah, some of those company's haven't provided much. But what they have provided can't be boiled down to community driving. If anything, the SC2 community has/is done/doing far less for its game than the BW community did, and can take a lesson from the BW community and do more for it. If we had the community at our backs like BW did, there wouldn't even be questions about our validity because we'd be in such a stronger position. For now it feels like we only survive on the corporate dollars, not because we have community. the stuff about beverages was just a passing comment~ i'm just noting that the sponsors are fairly small, even the ones that sponsored gsl (gsl is dirt cheap to sponsor compared to osl/msl and it shows) the thing is bw died exactly because the community did not want to support it. it's because the big leagues were so dependent on sponsors that the sponsors had full control of the scene like in bw (hi kespa). there was never a community that supported bw in korea and if there's some now it's a bit "too little too late" because it's hard to get new people hooked. it's what's forcing the switch and the sponsors aren't really listening to the fans cause the fans think everything should be free i dunno, sc2 is still more community based than bw ever was. i mean, community is willing to pay to support leagues which i think is great, because it just means as long as the money is there the scene will survive, although maybe it'll downsize a bit. i dunno how the leagues are doing exactly in financial situations but i figure people are paying for it and then trying to get sponsors to help mount the costs. it needs to be a community sponsored endeavor if it wants to survive past the current phases where most of the biggest leagues (probably) aren't profitable yet Do you know why GSL is cheaper to sponsor? Looking up what OSL pays out every season vs GSL, GSL gives out a lot more prize money. ( to every player in code a/s ) Does OGN have larger production expenses or does the finals venue cost more to use? 1) From what I recall Blizzard sponsored a large chunk of the prize money the last two seasons. 2) The only thing Gom has over OGN in production is that they broadcast in a higher definition. Past that production quality of Gom is far inferior to OGN. 3) OGN is a cable tv channel. GOM broadcasts online. There are far less costs involved in the latter.
Thanks for the response, that makes it a lot more clear.
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Based on the title I thought they were auctioning off esports stuff to pay for SC2 OSL, then I read the OP and was disappointed.
Still, good thing they have a sponsor.
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On August 06 2012 01:37 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 01:20 Dodgin wrote:On August 05 2012 23:51 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:39 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2012 23:34 Milkis wrote:On August 05 2012 23:32 Chargelot wrote:
@Milkis
My point was not that OSL/OGN relied upon the community. I don't disagree that the major KR events/organizations had huge sponsorships in BW. It was more about everything else. To call SC2 community driven in comparison to BW which to this day was still community driven outside of Korea (Sayle, anyone?) is pretty silly. ehh i just didnt like the fact that you just listed a bunch of corporations without knowing how much they actually sponsored. i mean listing some of the beverage companies that sponsor teams with free drinks is kind of like "uhhhhh" Pepsi sponsored a whole season of GSL, and I think Coke did the same? If they did, that was really early on. Hot 6ix sponsored this past GSL. But yeah, some of those company's haven't provided much. But what they have provided can't be boiled down to community driving. If anything, the SC2 community has/is done/doing far less for its game than the BW community did, and can take a lesson from the BW community and do more for it. If we had the community at our backs like BW did, there wouldn't even be questions about our validity because we'd be in such a stronger position. For now it feels like we only survive on the corporate dollars, not because we have community. the stuff about beverages was just a passing comment~ i'm just noting that the sponsors are fairly small, even the ones that sponsored gsl (gsl is dirt cheap to sponsor compared to osl/msl and it shows) the thing is bw died exactly because the community did not want to support it. it's because the big leagues were so dependent on sponsors that the sponsors had full control of the scene like in bw (hi kespa). there was never a community that supported bw in korea and if there's some now it's a bit "too little too late" because it's hard to get new people hooked. it's what's forcing the switch and the sponsors aren't really listening to the fans cause the fans think everything should be free i dunno, sc2 is still more community based than bw ever was. i mean, community is willing to pay to support leagues which i think is great, because it just means as long as the money is there the scene will survive, although maybe it'll downsize a bit. i dunno how the leagues are doing exactly in financial situations but i figure people are paying for it and then trying to get sponsors to help mount the costs. it needs to be a community sponsored endeavor if it wants to survive past the current phases where most of the biggest leagues (probably) aren't profitable yet Do you know why GSL is cheaper to sponsor? Looking up what OSL pays out every season vs GSL, GSL gives out a lot more prize money. ( to every player in code a/s ) Does OGN have larger production expenses or does the finals venue cost more to use? OSL fills up a stadium.
Look at DRG v. Genius finals crowd and then Jangbi v. Fantasy finals crowd they were both held in similar looking stadiums. I dont think there was that much of a difference in crowd numbers tbh but im not good at guessing how many people are in a crowd so idk. BW really took a hit and was steadily declining in fan support after like 2007 or so. Also for like code S matches in the GSL studio, its basically full and in OSL SC2 their studio is basically empty (although I didnt see the Kespa players in the dual tournametn so it may have been bigger then)
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