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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
July 05 2012 22:10 GMT
#221
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is definitely not a couple tier below DRG in ZvP. And they do play a pretty similar style, only drg plays mutas more often and has tweaked the mass roaches with drops, just like the TSL zergs.

And DRG loses to the immortal all-in just as hard as Stephano, so there might be a way for our little Swedish friend

"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
July 05 2012 22:13 GMT
#222
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


rofl indeed.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 22:24:42
July 05 2012 22:22 GMT
#223
On July 06 2012 04:31 polyphonyEX wrote:
1. MC
2. Squirtle
3. Creator
4. Parting
5. NaNiwa



1. MC
2. Squirtle
3. Creator
4. Parting
5. Genius
6. Hero most of the time
7. Naniwa? Puzzle?
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
DoctorDeath
Profile Joined June 2012
17 Posts
July 05 2012 22:26 GMT
#224
On July 06 2012 07:13 Psychobabas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


rofl indeed.


Has Stephano had consistent success in beating Code S-tier protosses? I would say no.

He was torn-up by MC in their best of 7 or 9, beat by Mana (who isn't Code S) multiple times, and loses to top Korean protosses in tournaments.

Stop drinking the Stephano kool-aid. He's a top two foreigner with Naniwa but he just isn't on the same level as DRG.
Ntwadumela
Profile Joined December 2011
United States65 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 22:35:51
July 05 2012 22:35 GMT
#225
Nani is the best foreigner in my eyes because he plays with the big boys.
Lozos
Profile Joined February 2012
United States36 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 22:43:44
July 05 2012 22:38 GMT
#226
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


DRG, Nestea, Symbol, Violet, then a toss up between Sniper, Shine, Revival who have all been extremely good lately. Stephano is a top foreign zerg, but he doesn't do very well against mid-top tier Koreans.

Naniwa and DRG (or as my friends and I call him, DRmotherfuckingG) are my two favorite players, but I'm rooting for Nani all the way. DRG had his time, Nani deserves his!
Keith > Piglet
PBCL
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden44 Posts
July 05 2012 22:43 GMT
#227
I wanted SuperNoVa to advance
He is my favorite SC2pro
Follow Jangbi @Jangbitoss on twitter
DoctorDeath
Profile Joined June 2012
17 Posts
July 05 2012 22:45 GMT
#228
On July 06 2012 07:38 Lozos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


DRG, Nestea, Symbol, Violet, then a toss up between Sniper, Shine, Revival who have all been extremely good lately. Stephano is a top foreign zerg, but he doesn't do very well against mid-top tier Koreans.


I looked at Stephano's top 3 tournaments (in terms of monetary earnings): IPL 3, ESWC 2011, and IPL 4 Qualifiers.

The only top koreans he faced in each tournament were:

IPL 3: can't say any were top tier, best was TheStC
ESWC 2011: Marineking
IPL 4 qualifiers: TAiLS was the best

Honestly, I like Stephano, but the notion that he's one of the best players in the world is unfounded.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 22:54:32
July 05 2012 22:48 GMT
#229
On July 06 2012 07:26 DoctorDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:13 Psychobabas wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


rofl indeed.


Has Stephano had consistent success in beating Code S-tier protosses? I would say no.

He was torn-up by MC in their best of 7 or 9, beat by Mana (who isn't Code S) multiple times, and loses to top Korean protosses in tournaments.

Stop drinking the Stephano kool-aid. He's a top two foreigner with Naniwa but he just isn't on the same level as DRG.


Lost all credibility here(unless you start counting matches before ESWC or even before 2012 where Stephano's ZvP became strong in which case you're also wrong), you don't know shit about sc2, so i'm not even gonna bother answer this...
And just to make you look even more stupid than you already do, here are the koreans stephano beat in the last two tourneys he played:

MC(2-0 and 2-3).
Alicia(2-0)
JYP(2-0)
Parting(3-1)
Squirtle(2-0)

Man, he's so bad...
On July 06 2012 07:38 Lozos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


DRG, Nestea, Symbol, Violet, then a toss up between Sniper, Shine, Revival who have all been extremely good lately. Stephano is a top foreign zerg, but he doesn't do very well against mid-top tier Koreans.

Naniwa and DRG (or as my friends and I call him, DRmotherfuckingG) are my two favorite players, but I'm rooting for Nani all the way. DRG had his time, Nani deserves his!


Yeah, Symbol, Sniper, Shine and Revival are all better than Stephano because of their huge achievements....wait, they all pale compared to Stephano...
Oh i got it now, they are korean and Stephano isn't...he must be weaker than them.

Every single korean respect Stephano, he's one of the most studied players in Korea(JD loves his play), MC, MKP and MVP and others said he was top 3 zerg in the world...will you excuse me, but i'd rather follow their opinion than that of a random poster in a forum :p
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 05 2012 22:51 GMT
#230
1. MC
2. Squirtle
3. Seed
4. Genius
5. NaNiwa
6. Creator
7. HerO
8. PartinG
9. Oz
10. Puzzle
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 05 2012 22:53 GMT
#231
STOP HAVING OPINIONS THAT DON'T AGREE WITH MY OPINION

Player rankings are always subjective and usually bias, it's impossible to know who's where, compare players who don't often meet eachother/play the same opponents etc. Getting mad at people who think other players are better is completely pointless.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 05 2012 22:56 GMT
#232
On July 06 2012 07:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:26 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:13 Psychobabas wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


rofl indeed.


Has Stephano had consistent success in beating Code S-tier protosses? I would say no.

He was torn-up by MC in their best of 7 or 9, beat by Mana (who isn't Code S) multiple times, and loses to top Korean protosses in tournaments.

Stop drinking the Stephano kool-aid. He's a top two foreigner with Naniwa but he just isn't on the same level as DRG.


Lost all credibility here(unless you start counting matches before ESWC or even before 2012 where Stephano's ZvP became strong in which case you're also wrong), you don't know shit about sc2, so i'm not even gonna bother answer this...
And just to make you look even more stupid than you already do, here are the koreans stephano beat in the last two tourneys he played:

MC(2-0 and 2-3).
Alicia(2-0)
JYP(2-0)
Parting(3-1)
Squirtle(2-0)

Man, he's so bad...
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:38 Lozos wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


DRG, Nestea, Symbol, Violet, then a toss up between Sniper, Shine, Revival who have all been extremely good lately. Stephano is a top foreign zerg, but he doesn't do very well against mid-top tier Koreans.

Naniwa and DRG (or as my friends and I call him, DRmotherfuckingG) are my two favorite players, but I'm rooting for Nani all the way. DRG had his time, Nani deserves his!


Yeah, Symbol, Sniper, Shine and Revival are all better than Stephano because of their huge achievements....wait, they all pale compared to Stephano...
Oh i got it now, they are korean and Stephano isn't...he must be weaker than them.

Every single korean respect Stephano, he's one of the most studied players in Korea(JD loves his play), MC, MKP and MVP and others said he was top 3 zerg in the world...will you excuse me, but i'd rather follow their opinion than that of a random poster in a forum :p


I believe he was counting Dreamhack which was less than a month ago.
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
July 05 2012 22:56 GMT
#233
On July 06 2012 07:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:26 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:13 Psychobabas wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


rofl indeed.


Has Stephano had consistent success in beating Code S-tier protosses? I would say no.

He was torn-up by MC in their best of 7 or 9, beat by Mana (who isn't Code S) multiple times, and loses to top Korean protosses in tournaments.

Stop drinking the Stephano kool-aid. He's a top two foreigner with Naniwa but he just isn't on the same level as DRG.


Lost all credibility here(unless you start counting matches before ESWC or even before 2012 where Stephano's ZvP became strong in which case you're also wrong), you don't know shit about sc2, so i'm not even gonna bother answer this...
And just to make you look even more stupid than you already do, here are the koreans stephano beat in the last two tourneys he played:

MC(2-0 and 2-3).
Alicia(2-0)
JYP(2-0)
Parting(3-1)
Squirtle(2-0)

Man, he's so bad...
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:38 Lozos wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


DRG, Nestea, Symbol, Violet, then a toss up between Sniper, Shine, Revival who have all been extremely good lately. Stephano is a top foreign zerg, but he doesn't do very well against mid-top tier Koreans.

Naniwa and DRG (or as my friends and I call him, DRmotherfuckingG) are my two favorite players, but I'm rooting for Nani all the way. DRG had his time, Nani deserves his!


Yeah, Symbol, Sniper, Shine and Revival are all better than Stephano because of their huge achievements....wait, they all pale compared to Stephano...
Oh i got it now, they are korean and Stephano isn't...he must be weaker than them.


That's a bit unfair, no? To compare Symbol and the rest of these Korean Zerg's to Stephano's achievements. Just because they don't attend foreign tournaments doesn't mean Stephano is automatically better than them. Symbol took 2nd in Iron Squid (A tournament where Stephano dropped out on) and is currently in Ro8 of the GSL, which I think is a huge achievement.

The other Zergs are pretty damn good Zergs as evident in the GSTL.
DoctorDeath
Profile Joined June 2012
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 23:08:07
July 05 2012 23:01 GMT
#234
On July 06 2012 07:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:26 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:13 Psychobabas wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


rofl indeed.


Has Stephano had consistent success in beating Code S-tier protosses? I would say no.

He was torn-up by MC in their best of 7 or 9, beat by Mana (who isn't Code S) multiple times, and loses to top Korean protosses in tournaments.

Stop drinking the Stephano kool-aid. He's a top two foreigner with Naniwa but he just isn't on the same level as DRG.


Lost all credibility here(unless you start counting matches before ESWC or even before 2012 where Stephano's ZvP became strong in which case you're also wrong), you don't know shit about sc2, so i'm not even gonna bother answer this...
And just to make you look even more stupid than you already do, here are the koreans stephano beat in the last two tourneys he played:

MC(2-0 and 2-3).
Alicia(2-0)
JYP(2-0)
Parting(3-1)
Squirtle(2-0)

Man, he's so bad...
Yeah, definitely bad...


Never said he was BAD.

The last two tourneys he played were: Dreamhack and Red Bull Battlegrounds.

Dreamhack Open: Beat none of the people you noted
Red Bull Battlegrounds: Lost to MC, but I he did beat Parting and Squirtle (not known for PvZ)
Edit: Shit, forgot about Spring Championship. You're right, he did beat Alicia and JYP (lol top tier koreans).

If you want to be called a top two ZvP-er, as you called Stephano, you need to have consistent success in that field, which Stephano DOESN'T HAVE, especially against MC, who has a major win advantage over Stephano.


P.S. I like how you resort to major ad hominem when faced with a dissenting opinion

GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
July 05 2012 23:02 GMT
#235
These are two polar opposite interviews. While DRG is booming with confidence, Nestea is being incredibly modest. I wonder which one makes it. DRG still has Symbol to go through.
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
July 05 2012 23:04 GMT
#236
On July 06 2012 07:56 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:26 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:13 Psychobabas wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


rofl indeed.


Has Stephano had consistent success in beating Code S-tier protosses? I would say no.

He was torn-up by MC in their best of 7 or 9, beat by Mana (who isn't Code S) multiple times, and loses to top Korean protosses in tournaments.

Stop drinking the Stephano kool-aid. He's a top two foreigner with Naniwa but he just isn't on the same level as DRG.


Lost all credibility here(unless you start counting matches before ESWC or even before 2012 where Stephano's ZvP became strong in which case you're also wrong), you don't know shit about sc2, so i'm not even gonna bother answer this...
And just to make you look even more stupid than you already do, here are the koreans stephano beat in the last two tourneys he played:

MC(2-0 and 2-3).
Alicia(2-0)
JYP(2-0)
Parting(3-1)
Squirtle(2-0)

Man, he's so bad...
On July 06 2012 07:38 Lozos wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


DRG, Nestea, Symbol, Violet, then a toss up between Sniper, Shine, Revival who have all been extremely good lately. Stephano is a top foreign zerg, but he doesn't do very well against mid-top tier Koreans.

Naniwa and DRG (or as my friends and I call him, DRmotherfuckingG) are my two favorite players, but I'm rooting for Nani all the way. DRG had his time, Nani deserves his!


Yeah, Symbol, Sniper, Shine and Revival are all better than Stephano because of their huge achievements....wait, they all pale compared to Stephano...
Oh i got it now, they are korean and Stephano isn't...he must be weaker than them.


That's a bit unfair, no? To compare Symbol and the rest of these Korean Zerg's to Stephano's achievements. Just because they don't attend foreign tournaments doesn't mean Stephano is automatically better than them. Symbol took 2nd in Iron Squid (A tournament where Stephano dropped out on) and is currently in Ro8 of the GSL, which I think is a huge achievement.

The other Zergs are pretty damn good Zergs as evident in the GSTL.


No, it isn't unfair since all those zergs haven't been hyped by proplayers as Stephano has been...It's not because zerg have had a huge buff and start being "notale terran players" that they became better than Stephano, it's just that Stephano doesn't have the chance to face everyday top korean players...
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 23:13:05
July 05 2012 23:08 GMT
#237
On July 06 2012 08:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:26 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:13 Psychobabas wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


rofl indeed.


Has Stephano had consistent success in beating Code S-tier protosses? I would say no.

He was torn-up by MC in their best of 7 or 9, beat by Mana (who isn't Code S) multiple times, and loses to top Korean protosses in tournaments.

Stop drinking the Stephano kool-aid. He's a top two foreigner with Naniwa but he just isn't on the same level as DRG.


Lost all credibility here(unless you start counting matches before ESWC or even before 2012 where Stephano's ZvP became strong in which case you're also wrong), you don't know shit about sc2, so i'm not even gonna bother answer this...
And just to make you look even more stupid than you already do, here are the koreans stephano beat in the last two tourneys he played:

MC(2-0 and 2-3).
Alicia(2-0)
JYP(2-0)
Parting(3-1)
Squirtle(2-0)

Man, he's so bad...
Yeah, definitely bad...


Never said he was BAD.

The last two tourneys he played were: Dreamhack and Red Bull Battlegrounds.

Dreamhack Open: Beat none of the people you noted
Red Bull Battlegrounds: Lost to MC, but I he did beat Parting and Squirtle (not known for PvZ)

If you want to be called a top two ZvP-er, as you called Stephano, you need to have consistent success in that field, which Stephano DOESN'T HAVE, especially against MC, who has a major win advantage over Stephano.


P.S. I like how you resort to major ad hominem when faced with a dissenting opinion



Would you have the kindness of giving me who the notable PvZer are:
I guess i know the answer, it's either someone Stephano beat or haven't played :p

And against MC, on the last three tournaments(don't give me the HSC4 crap, he was drunk) he's 8-9...that's pretty good and MC is the best ZvPer in the world by far...

Yet again, you're wrong: the last two tourneys he played are MLG and Dreamhack, in which he beat JYP and Alicia(who are i believe known for having some decent PvZ), because we all know Parting and Squirtle are scrubs and Stephano only beat them because this is their weakest match-up..;
Lozos
Profile Joined February 2012
United States36 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 23:13:40
July 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#238
On July 06 2012 07:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:26 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:13 Psychobabas wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


rofl indeed.


Has Stephano had consistent success in beating Code S-tier protosses? I would say no.

He was torn-up by MC in their best of 7 or 9, beat by Mana (who isn't Code S) multiple times, and loses to top Korean protosses in tournaments.

Stop drinking the Stephano kool-aid. He's a top two foreigner with Naniwa but he just isn't on the same level as DRG.


Lost all credibility here(unless you start counting matches before ESWC or even before 2012 where Stephano's ZvP became strong in which case you're also wrong), you don't know shit about sc2, so i'm not even gonna bother answer this...
And just to make you look even more stupid than you already do, here are the koreans stephano beat in the last two tourneys he played:

MC(2-0 and 2-3).
Alicia(2-0)
JYP(2-0)
Parting(3-1)
Squirtle(2-0)

Man, he's so bad...
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:38 Lozos wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


DRG, Nestea, Symbol, Violet, then a toss up between Sniper, Shine, Revival who have all been extremely good lately. Stephano is a top foreign zerg, but he doesn't do very well against mid-top tier Koreans.

Naniwa and DRG (or as my friends and I call him, DRmotherfuckingG) are my two favorite players, but I'm rooting for Nani all the way. DRG had his time, Nani deserves his!


Yeah, Symbol, Sniper, Shine and Revival are all better than Stephano because of their huge achievements....wait, they all pale compared to Stephano...
Oh i got it now, they are korean and Stephano isn't...he must be weaker than them.

Every single korean respect Stephano, he's one of the most studied players in Korea(JD loves his play), MC, MKP and MVP and others said he was top 3 zerg in the world...will you excuse me, but i'd rather follow their opinion than that of a random poster in a forum :p


Symbol is on a mad tear right now, I don't know where you've been. He's in GSL ro8, he took 2nd in Iron Squid and 2nd in MLG Spring Arena 2. The other Koreans I mentioned are killing it in GSTL.

And I don't know what tourny's you're looking at but Stephano came in 3rd in Dreamhack Summer for beating Keen and a bunch of foreigners and 5th/6th in MLG Spring Championship by beating some Koreans who are on a downward spiral, some of which I wouldn't even call middle tier. Or maybe you mean MLG Spring Arena where he did beat MC but got rocked by who? Violet and Symbol, the guy who has no achievements according to you.

EDIT forgot about Red Bull Lan, yes he did beat them MC and Squirtle, which is a great accomplishment, I'll give him that. But to say he's one of the best in the world is crazy.
Keith > Piglet
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
July 05 2012 23:12 GMT
#239
I hope that somehow Naniwa can wipe the smirk off of DRG's face. I'm not sure if he can, but I'm hoping he will. I was hoping that Ryung would pull out a miracle and take DRG out, but it was not meant to be.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 23:15:17
July 05 2012 23:14 GMT
#240
On July 06 2012 08:11 Lozos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:26 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:13 Psychobabas wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


rofl indeed.


Has Stephano had consistent success in beating Code S-tier protosses? I would say no.

He was torn-up by MC in their best of 7 or 9, beat by Mana (who isn't Code S) multiple times, and loses to top Korean protosses in tournaments.

Stop drinking the Stephano kool-aid. He's a top two foreigner with Naniwa but he just isn't on the same level as DRG.


Lost all credibility here(unless you start counting matches before ESWC or even before 2012 where Stephano's ZvP became strong in which case you're also wrong), you don't know shit about sc2, so i'm not even gonna bother answer this...
And just to make you look even more stupid than you already do, here are the koreans stephano beat in the last two tourneys he played:

MC(2-0 and 2-3).
Alicia(2-0)
JYP(2-0)
Parting(3-1)
Squirtle(2-0)

Man, he's so bad...
On July 06 2012 07:38 Lozos wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:09 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:01 DoctorDeath wrote:
On July 06 2012 04:16 artosismermaid wrote:
Naniwa here is what you need to do. Practice 100 games with stephano. Get Sase to teach you how to 2 base immortal all in. Profit.


Stephano is a couple of tiers below DRG to be honest. I don't think their styles are all that similar either.


Also, have you all read this article?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=347301

DongRaeGu knows how to work a crowd and make everyone excited for a match, kind of like boxing or pro-wrestling. So does Naniwa, who even admitted that rivalries make fans interested in upcoming matches.


Stephano is top 5 zerg in the world, don't know what you're talkin' about...

and top two ZvP...


DRG, Nestea, Symbol, Violet, then a toss up between Sniper, Shine, Revival who have all been extremely good lately. Stephano is a top foreign zerg, but he doesn't do very well against mid-top tier Koreans.

Naniwa and DRG (or as my friends and I call him, DRmotherfuckingG) are my two favorite players, but I'm rooting for Nani all the way. DRG had his time, Nani deserves his!


Yeah, Symbol, Sniper, Shine and Revival are all better than Stephano because of their huge achievements....wait, they all pale compared to Stephano...
Oh i got it now, they are korean and Stephano isn't...he must be weaker than them.

Every single korean respect Stephano, he's one of the most studied players in Korea(JD loves his play), MC, MKP and MVP and others said he was top 3 zerg in the world...will you excuse me, but i'd rather follow their opinion than that of a random poster in a forum :p


Symbol is on a mad tear right now, I don't know where you've been. He's in GSL ro8, he took 2nd in Iron Squid and 2nd in MLG Spring Arena 2. The other Koreans I mentioned are killing it in GSTL.

And I don't know what tourny's you're looking at but Stephano came in 3rd in Dreamhack Summer for beating Keen and a bunch of foreigners and 5th/6th in MLG Spring Championship by beating some Koreans who are on a downward spiral, some of which I wouldn't even call middle tier. Or maybe you mean MLG Spring Arena where he did beat MC but got rocked by who? Violet and Symbol, the guy who has no achievements according to you.

EDIT forgot about Red Bull Lan, yes he did beat them MC and Squirtle, which is a great accomplishment, I'll give him that. But to say he's one of the best in the world is crazy.

All the progamers say otherwise...and their opinion is infinitely more relevant than yours
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