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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 26 2012 14:51 GMT
#21
On June 26 2012 23:49 storywriter wrote:
go ahead and put my interviews here please

edit: will you be doing jjakji and puzzle's too?


looking for them
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HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
June 26 2012 14:53 GMT
#22
On June 26 2012 23:28 Koshi wrote:
^ Is it true that a fungaled ghost can't use snipe?

No, a fungaled Ghost can use snipe as long as the Infestor are in range.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
June 26 2012 14:59 GMT
#23
Nice interviews!
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
Profile Joined June 2012
544 Posts
June 26 2012 15:00 GMT
#24
mma and ryung truly have an unique relationship. i hope ryung can start eating soon again T_T
awaiting the return of the space cowboy
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 15:05:01
June 26 2012 15:01 GMT
#25
On June 26 2012 23:51 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 23:24 warcralft wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:20 MaNaVoId wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:15 Probe1 wrote:
Bomber it could have been a fair fight if you didn't clump your ravens and lose them all foolishly to one infestor Or make ghost. Ghost very good when your opponent has pure infestor and one base.


1 emp at most can hit 2 infestors given their big size and 1 fungal can hit a bunch of ghosts and disabling them from using all their spells and they would be dead, so in order to get enough ghosts with enough emp for 30+ infestors, it would have given more than enough time for the zerg to tech up to broodlords.


Yo snipe is good too bro


How many snipes can you spam out before a fungal hit your group of ghost and chain fungal them to death

If you can't split units you can't win. Doesn't matter how many infestors he faced. He literally stacked his ravens and surprise, half of them died to a fungal.

Jjakji on the other hand deflected Brood Lord|Infestor with well spread vikings. A single fungal could barely hit two at once.
Granted, full admission- Monster played poorly. That however does not discredit Jjakjis solid play in the least.

You can say whatever you want but Bomber did everything he could not to win against infestors. He forgot seeker missile, only remembering it after producing 10 ravens, he refused to use ghosts, he refused to turret and tank his base and continue to hunt overlords with vikings to prevent drops, he sent his bio in piecemeal so 2-3 infestors could fungal kill them easily, he didn't build tanks, he massed battlecruisers then stacked them close enough for fungals, he used battlecruisers all by themselves instead of supporting them, he left no defense in his main and let a single infestor repeatedly spew ITs for over ten minutes, he made banshees against pure infestor, he only dropped twice in the entire game, he let all his medivacs be fungaled.

fuck. ghosts are good units. that was just off the top of my head. infestors didn't conspire against Bomber to beat him. Bomber beat himself. Over and over
And over.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
Profile Joined June 2012
544 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 15:15:05
June 26 2012 15:09 GMT
#26
On June 27 2012 00:01 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 23:51 MaNaVoId wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:24 warcralft wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:20 MaNaVoId wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:15 Probe1 wrote:
Bomber it could have been a fair fight if you didn't clump your ravens and lose them all foolishly to one infestor Or make ghost. Ghost very good when your opponent has pure infestor and one base.


1 emp at most can hit 2 infestors given their big size and 1 fungal can hit a bunch of ghosts and disabling them from using all their spells and they would be dead, so in order to get enough ghosts with enough emp for 30+ infestors, it would have given more than enough time for the zerg to tech up to broodlords.


Yo snipe is good too bro


How many snipes can you spam out before a fungal hit your group of ghost and chain fungal them to death

If you can't split units you can't win. Doesn't matter how many infestors he faced. He literally stacked his ravens and surprise, half of them died to a fungal.

Jjakji on the other hand deflected Brood Lord|Infestor with well spread vikings. A single fungal could barely hit two at once.
Granted, full admission- Monster played poorly. That however does not discredit Jjakjis solid play in the least.

You can say whatever you want but Bomber did everything he could not to win against infestors. He forgot seeker missile, only remembering it after producing 10 ravens, he refused to use ghosts, he refused to turret and tank his base and continue to hunt overlords with vikings to prevent drops, he sent his bio in piecemeal so 2-3 infestors could fungal kill them easily, he didn't build tanks, he massed battlecruisers then stacked them close enough for fungals, he used battlecruisers all by themselves instead of supporting them, he left no defense in his main and let a single infestor repeatedly spew ITs for over ten minutes, he made banshees against pure infestor, he only dropped twice in the entire game, he let all his medivacs be fungaled.

fuck. ghosts are good units. that was just off the top of my head. infestors didn't conspire against Bomber to beat him. Bomber beat himself. Over and over
And over.


no. u cant afford tanks and ravens for example. u simply dont understand what he did and why he did it. its depressing to read. tvz i snot a fair fight, everybody knows it. yea he could have done a better job microing, but do u realise the reason ravens clumped is that they do that when moving, and u cant know when u will meet infestors ?

its an example, but basically what bomber did was theorically correct, it takes unbelievable mechanics to pull it off, whereas zerg only needs to hit fungals, and negate seekers missiles. thats it. and he didnt get ghosts because they are useless vs everything but infestors, and u have to work with a limited amount of ressource. hell most likely try to incorporate few ghosts from now on, but i dont think u have any idea how hard it is to do what bomber already did compared to what freaky had to do.

and yea at the end he lost because infestors counter every terran unit get over it, ppl were saying that of ghosts, they did get nerfed.
awaiting the return of the space cowboy
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
June 26 2012 15:18 GMT
#27
Oh, I didn't notice this.

On June 26 2012 23:12 Caihead wrote:
Q: Today your raven usage was very successful
A: In reality ravens aren't a useful unit type, especially because HSM's energy cost is too high, and it has many flaws. But because of the terran race's traits in the late game there is alot of excess gas, so I can only choose to make ravens. Terrans playing into the late game can only use ravens.


There's the Pro answer to the "Just make a Raven" enthusiasts.

Perhaps it's time to make Ghosts 100/175.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
June 26 2012 15:18 GMT
#28
On June 27 2012 00:01 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 23:51 MaNaVoId wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:24 warcralft wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:20 MaNaVoId wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:15 Probe1 wrote:
Bomber it could have been a fair fight if you didn't clump your ravens and lose them all foolishly to one infestor Or make ghost. Ghost very good when your opponent has pure infestor and one base.


1 emp at most can hit 2 infestors given their big size and 1 fungal can hit a bunch of ghosts and disabling them from using all their spells and they would be dead, so in order to get enough ghosts with enough emp for 30+ infestors, it would have given more than enough time for the zerg to tech up to broodlords.


Yo snipe is good too bro


How many snipes can you spam out before a fungal hit your group of ghost and chain fungal them to death

If you can't split units you can't win. Doesn't matter how many infestors he faced. He literally stacked his ravens and surprise, half of them died to a fungal.

Jjakji on the other hand deflected Brood Lord|Infestor with well spread vikings. A single fungal could barely hit two at once.
Granted, full admission- Monster played poorly. That however does not discredit Jjakjis solid play in the least.

You can say whatever you want but Bomber did everything he could not to win against infestors. He forgot seeker missile, only remembering it after producing 10 ravens, he refused to use ghosts, he refused to turret and tank his base and continue to hunt overlords with vikings to prevent drops, he sent his bio in piecemeal so 2-3 infestors could fungal kill them easily, he didn't build tanks, he massed battlecruisers then stacked them close enough for fungals, he used battlecruisers all by themselves instead of supporting them, he left no defense in his main and let a single infestor repeatedly spew ITs for over ten minutes, he made banshees against pure infestor, he only dropped twice in the entire game, he let all his medivacs be fungaled.

fuck. ghosts are good units. that was just off the top of my head. infestors didn't conspire against Bomber to beat him. Bomber beat himself. Over and over
And over.

How can you even compare the ridiculous amount of infestors Freaky had to the 3-4(?) Monster had? Bomber forgetting HSM had no real impact on the game, he didn't really stack his bcs, building 0-0 tanks wouldn't have helped, etc. It's not like freaky played even close to perfect, yet you only pointed out Bomber's mistakes, really, just no^.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
June 26 2012 15:24 GMT
#29
Thanks for the translations, I hope to see many of these guys in Code S next season.

ForGG always looks so disappointed, haha.
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
June 26 2012 15:30 GMT
#30
haha I knew it, Ryung was stealing MMA's mojo the whole time by sitting too close to him and telling him about his problems.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 26 2012 15:30 GMT
#31
Because it was an hour long game and Freaky did not spawn at the 1 o clock with 34 infestors.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
June 26 2012 15:35 GMT
#32
Thanks for the translation

btw i think it's Razer not Razor, isnt it ?
@taefoxy
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
June 26 2012 15:37 GMT
#33
OP needs to get with the times. TheSTC is now in Quantic, why is he not wearing a Quantic shirt?

Regardless, I am glad to see that MMA's TvP is back to his normal tip top form.
Save me from myself
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 15:43:35
June 26 2012 15:42 GMT
#34
On June 27 2012 00:18 HeroMystic wrote:
Oh, I didn't notice this.

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 23:12 Caihead wrote:
Q: Today your raven usage was very successful
A: In reality ravens aren't a useful unit type, especially because HSM's energy cost is too high, and it has many flaws. But because of the terran race's traits in the late game there is alot of excess gas, so I can only choose to make ravens. Terrans playing into the late game can only use ravens.


There's the Pro answer to the "Just make a Raven" enthusiasts.

Perhaps it's time to make Ghosts 100/175.


Yeah, I dunno why ghosts are 200/100 (if I recall right) almost every tvp/tvz and hell even tvt you see 1k>3K gas on the terran side, they need tech units (like templar/infestor) to drop more gas in than money. I think going back to the old model would be more efficent, hell 75/150 would be fine imo.
EDIT: plus it would be nice to have the full dmg back, and have it resorted to 25 vs massive units, because now they're useless in so many diverse situations (QXC talked about this)... Hitting scvs 2 at a time, bit of a pissssss off haha, not that that happens to often.
FoTG fighting!
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
June 26 2012 15:43 GMT
#35
ryung is such a troll lol. gooo mma get back into code s
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
June 26 2012 16:00 GMT
#36
A childhood friend of mine lives overseas. And he told me the other day that he got into dentistry at Boston University. I want to take this opportunity to congratulate him.


I'm applying this year! Congrats
We talkin about PRACTICE
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
June 26 2012 16:15 GMT
#37
Yay fOrGG!!!
Korean Air, please save Fox.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 26 2012 16:20 GMT
#38
Damnit Ryung, your negativity is affecting MMA.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Fermats_last
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
England336 Posts
June 26 2012 16:24 GMT
#39
No Jjakji interview?
The road goes ever ever on, down from the door where it began
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
June 26 2012 16:28 GMT
#40
On June 27 2012 00:09 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 00:01 Probe1 wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:51 MaNaVoId wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:24 warcralft wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:20 MaNaVoId wrote:
On June 26 2012 23:15 Probe1 wrote:
Bomber it could have been a fair fight if you didn't clump your ravens and lose them all foolishly to one infestor Or make ghost. Ghost very good when your opponent has pure infestor and one base.


1 emp at most can hit 2 infestors given their big size and 1 fungal can hit a bunch of ghosts and disabling them from using all their spells and they would be dead, so in order to get enough ghosts with enough emp for 30+ infestors, it would have given more than enough time for the zerg to tech up to broodlords.


Yo snipe is good too bro


How many snipes can you spam out before a fungal hit your group of ghost and chain fungal them to death

If you can't split units you can't win. Doesn't matter how many infestors he faced. He literally stacked his ravens and surprise, half of them died to a fungal.

Jjakji on the other hand deflected Brood Lord|Infestor with well spread vikings. A single fungal could barely hit two at once.
Granted, full admission- Monster played poorly. That however does not discredit Jjakjis solid play in the least.

You can say whatever you want but Bomber did everything he could not to win against infestors. He forgot seeker missile, only remembering it after producing 10 ravens, he refused to use ghosts, he refused to turret and tank his base and continue to hunt overlords with vikings to prevent drops, he sent his bio in piecemeal so 2-3 infestors could fungal kill them easily, he didn't build tanks, he massed battlecruisers then stacked them close enough for fungals, he used battlecruisers all by themselves instead of supporting them, he left no defense in his main and let a single infestor repeatedly spew ITs for over ten minutes, he made banshees against pure infestor, he only dropped twice in the entire game, he let all his medivacs be fungaled.

fuck. ghosts are good units. that was just off the top of my head. infestors didn't conspire against Bomber to beat him. Bomber beat himself. Over and over
And over.

and he didnt get ghosts because they are useless vs everything but infestors, and u have to work with a limited amount of ressource.


How can you assume that ? He even said in the interview that he should have builded some....
And in this particular game, there wasn't the threat of other units for a long time...

Ghosts aren't as good as they used to be vs zerg, but they are still decent. Zerg have the tendency now to bring some queen with their push to transfuse the bls, I would really like to see a terran try to snipe or EMP the queens with some ghosts, because the zerg won't have more than 4-5 queen so you can really do the job with 1-2 EMP.



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