On June 26 2012 23:49 storywriter wrote:
go ahead and put my interviews here please
edit: will you be doing jjakji and puzzle's too?
go ahead and put my interviews here please
edit: will you be doing jjakji and puzzle's too?
looking for them
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On June 26 2012 23:49 storywriter wrote: go ahead and put my interviews here please edit: will you be doing jjakji and puzzle's too? looking for them | ||
HeroMystic
United States1217 Posts
On June 26 2012 23:28 Koshi wrote: ^ Is it true that a fungaled ghost can't use snipe? No, a fungaled Ghost can use snipe as long as the Infestor are in range. | ||
SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
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CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On June 26 2012 23:51 MaNaVoId wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2012 23:24 warcralft wrote: On June 26 2012 23:20 MaNaVoId wrote: On June 26 2012 23:15 Probe1 wrote: Bomber it could have been a fair fight if you didn't clump your ravens and lose them all foolishly to one infestor Or make ghost. Ghost very good when your opponent has pure infestor and one base. 1 emp at most can hit 2 infestors given their big size and 1 fungal can hit a bunch of ghosts and disabling them from using all their spells and they would be dead, so in order to get enough ghosts with enough emp for 30+ infestors, it would have given more than enough time for the zerg to tech up to broodlords. Yo snipe is good too bro How many snipes can you spam out before a fungal hit your group of ghost and chain fungal them to death If you can't split units you can't win. Doesn't matter how many infestors he faced. He literally stacked his ravens and surprise, half of them died to a fungal. Jjakji on the other hand deflected Brood Lord|Infestor with well spread vikings. A single fungal could barely hit two at once. Granted, full admission- Monster played poorly. That however does not discredit Jjakjis solid play in the least. You can say whatever you want but Bomber did everything he could not to win against infestors. He forgot seeker missile, only remembering it after producing 10 ravens, he refused to use ghosts, he refused to turret and tank his base and continue to hunt overlords with vikings to prevent drops, he sent his bio in piecemeal so 2-3 infestors could fungal kill them easily, he didn't build tanks, he massed battlecruisers then stacked them close enough for fungals, he used battlecruisers all by themselves instead of supporting them, he left no defense in his main and let a single infestor repeatedly spew ITs for over ten minutes, he made banshees against pure infestor, he only dropped twice in the entire game, he let all his medivacs be fungaled. fuck. ghosts are good units. that was just off the top of my head. infestors didn't conspire against Bomber to beat him. Bomber beat himself. Over and over And over. | ||
CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
544 Posts
On June 27 2012 00:01 Probe1 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2012 23:51 MaNaVoId wrote: On June 26 2012 23:24 warcralft wrote: On June 26 2012 23:20 MaNaVoId wrote: On June 26 2012 23:15 Probe1 wrote: Bomber it could have been a fair fight if you didn't clump your ravens and lose them all foolishly to one infestor Or make ghost. Ghost very good when your opponent has pure infestor and one base. 1 emp at most can hit 2 infestors given their big size and 1 fungal can hit a bunch of ghosts and disabling them from using all their spells and they would be dead, so in order to get enough ghosts with enough emp for 30+ infestors, it would have given more than enough time for the zerg to tech up to broodlords. Yo snipe is good too bro How many snipes can you spam out before a fungal hit your group of ghost and chain fungal them to death If you can't split units you can't win. Doesn't matter how many infestors he faced. He literally stacked his ravens and surprise, half of them died to a fungal. Jjakji on the other hand deflected Brood Lord|Infestor with well spread vikings. A single fungal could barely hit two at once. Granted, full admission- Monster played poorly. That however does not discredit Jjakjis solid play in the least. You can say whatever you want but Bomber did everything he could not to win against infestors. He forgot seeker missile, only remembering it after producing 10 ravens, he refused to use ghosts, he refused to turret and tank his base and continue to hunt overlords with vikings to prevent drops, he sent his bio in piecemeal so 2-3 infestors could fungal kill them easily, he didn't build tanks, he massed battlecruisers then stacked them close enough for fungals, he used battlecruisers all by themselves instead of supporting them, he left no defense in his main and let a single infestor repeatedly spew ITs for over ten minutes, he made banshees against pure infestor, he only dropped twice in the entire game, he let all his medivacs be fungaled. fuck. ghosts are good units. that was just off the top of my head. infestors didn't conspire against Bomber to beat him. Bomber beat himself. Over and over And over. no. u cant afford tanks and ravens for example. u simply dont understand what he did and why he did it. its depressing to read. tvz i snot a fair fight, everybody knows it. yea he could have done a better job microing, but do u realise the reason ravens clumped is that they do that when moving, and u cant know when u will meet infestors ? its an example, but basically what bomber did was theorically correct, it takes unbelievable mechanics to pull it off, whereas zerg only needs to hit fungals, and negate seekers missiles. thats it. and he didnt get ghosts because they are useless vs everything but infestors, and u have to work with a limited amount of ressource. hell most likely try to incorporate few ghosts from now on, but i dont think u have any idea how hard it is to do what bomber already did compared to what freaky had to do. and yea at the end he lost because infestors counter every terran unit get over it, ppl were saying that of ghosts, they did get nerfed. | ||
HeroMystic
United States1217 Posts
On June 26 2012 23:12 Caihead wrote: Q: Today your raven usage was very successful A: In reality ravens aren't a useful unit type, especially because HSM's energy cost is too high, and it has many flaws. But because of the terran race's traits in the late game there is alot of excess gas, so I can only choose to make ravens. Terrans playing into the late game can only use ravens. There's the Pro answer to the "Just make a Raven" enthusiasts. Perhaps it's time to make Ghosts 100/175. | ||
IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On June 27 2012 00:01 Probe1 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2012 23:51 MaNaVoId wrote: On June 26 2012 23:24 warcralft wrote: On June 26 2012 23:20 MaNaVoId wrote: On June 26 2012 23:15 Probe1 wrote: Bomber it could have been a fair fight if you didn't clump your ravens and lose them all foolishly to one infestor Or make ghost. Ghost very good when your opponent has pure infestor and one base. 1 emp at most can hit 2 infestors given their big size and 1 fungal can hit a bunch of ghosts and disabling them from using all their spells and they would be dead, so in order to get enough ghosts with enough emp for 30+ infestors, it would have given more than enough time for the zerg to tech up to broodlords. Yo snipe is good too bro How many snipes can you spam out before a fungal hit your group of ghost and chain fungal them to death If you can't split units you can't win. Doesn't matter how many infestors he faced. He literally stacked his ravens and surprise, half of them died to a fungal. Jjakji on the other hand deflected Brood Lord|Infestor with well spread vikings. A single fungal could barely hit two at once. Granted, full admission- Monster played poorly. That however does not discredit Jjakjis solid play in the least. You can say whatever you want but Bomber did everything he could not to win against infestors. He forgot seeker missile, only remembering it after producing 10 ravens, he refused to use ghosts, he refused to turret and tank his base and continue to hunt overlords with vikings to prevent drops, he sent his bio in piecemeal so 2-3 infestors could fungal kill them easily, he didn't build tanks, he massed battlecruisers then stacked them close enough for fungals, he used battlecruisers all by themselves instead of supporting them, he left no defense in his main and let a single infestor repeatedly spew ITs for over ten minutes, he made banshees against pure infestor, he only dropped twice in the entire game, he let all his medivacs be fungaled. fuck. ghosts are good units. that was just off the top of my head. infestors didn't conspire against Bomber to beat him. Bomber beat himself. Over and over And over. How can you even compare the ridiculous amount of infestors Freaky had to the 3-4(?) Monster had? Bomber forgetting HSM had no real impact on the game, he didn't really stack his bcs, building 0-0 tanks wouldn't have helped, etc. It's not like freaky played even close to perfect, yet you only pointed out Bomber's mistakes, really, just no^. | ||
Brotatolol
United States1742 Posts
ForGG always looks so disappointed, haha. | ||
blamekilly
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Taefox
1533 Posts
btw i think it's Razer not Razor, isnt it ? | ||
brokenLoL
United Kingdom419 Posts
Regardless, I am glad to see that MMA's TvP is back to his normal tip top form. | ||
NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On June 27 2012 00:18 HeroMystic wrote: Oh, I didn't notice this. Show nested quote + On June 26 2012 23:12 Caihead wrote: Q: Today your raven usage was very successful A: In reality ravens aren't a useful unit type, especially because HSM's energy cost is too high, and it has many flaws. But because of the terran race's traits in the late game there is alot of excess gas, so I can only choose to make ravens. Terrans playing into the late game can only use ravens. There's the Pro answer to the "Just make a Raven" enthusiasts. Perhaps it's time to make Ghosts 100/175. Yeah, I dunno why ghosts are 200/100 (if I recall right) almost every tvp/tvz and hell even tvt you see 1k>3K gas on the terran side, they need tech units (like templar/infestor) to drop more gas in than money. I think going back to the old model would be more efficent, hell 75/150 would be fine imo. EDIT: plus it would be nice to have the full dmg back, and have it resorted to 25 vs massive units, because now they're useless in so many diverse situations (QXC talked about this)... Hitting scvs 2 at a time, bit of a pissssss off haha, not that that happens to often. | ||
aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
A childhood friend of mine lives overseas. And he told me the other day that he got into dentistry at Boston University. I want to take this opportunity to congratulate him. I'm applying this year! Congrats | ||
maximuspita
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SarcasmMonster
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Fermats_last
England336 Posts
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kubiks
France1328 Posts
On June 27 2012 00:09 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2012 00:01 Probe1 wrote: On June 26 2012 23:51 MaNaVoId wrote: On June 26 2012 23:24 warcralft wrote: On June 26 2012 23:20 MaNaVoId wrote: On June 26 2012 23:15 Probe1 wrote: Bomber it could have been a fair fight if you didn't clump your ravens and lose them all foolishly to one infestor Or make ghost. Ghost very good when your opponent has pure infestor and one base. 1 emp at most can hit 2 infestors given their big size and 1 fungal can hit a bunch of ghosts and disabling them from using all their spells and they would be dead, so in order to get enough ghosts with enough emp for 30+ infestors, it would have given more than enough time for the zerg to tech up to broodlords. Yo snipe is good too bro How many snipes can you spam out before a fungal hit your group of ghost and chain fungal them to death If you can't split units you can't win. Doesn't matter how many infestors he faced. He literally stacked his ravens and surprise, half of them died to a fungal. Jjakji on the other hand deflected Brood Lord|Infestor with well spread vikings. A single fungal could barely hit two at once. Granted, full admission- Monster played poorly. That however does not discredit Jjakjis solid play in the least. You can say whatever you want but Bomber did everything he could not to win against infestors. He forgot seeker missile, only remembering it after producing 10 ravens, he refused to use ghosts, he refused to turret and tank his base and continue to hunt overlords with vikings to prevent drops, he sent his bio in piecemeal so 2-3 infestors could fungal kill them easily, he didn't build tanks, he massed battlecruisers then stacked them close enough for fungals, he used battlecruisers all by themselves instead of supporting them, he left no defense in his main and let a single infestor repeatedly spew ITs for over ten minutes, he made banshees against pure infestor, he only dropped twice in the entire game, he let all his medivacs be fungaled. fuck. ghosts are good units. that was just off the top of my head. infestors didn't conspire against Bomber to beat him. Bomber beat himself. Over and over And over. and he didnt get ghosts because they are useless vs everything but infestors, and u have to work with a limited amount of ressource. How can you assume that ? He even said in the interview that he should have builded some.... And in this particular game, there wasn't the threat of other units for a long time... Ghosts aren't as good as they used to be vs zerg, but they are still decent. Zerg have the tendency now to bring some queen with their push to transfuse the bls, I would really like to see a terran try to snipe or EMP the queens with some ghosts, because the zerg won't have more than 4-5 queen so you can really do the job with 1-2 EMP. | ||
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