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WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
June 18 2012 23:33 GMT
#21
is it open to a bronze godess?
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
June 18 2012 23:46 GMT
#22
I don't see why you announce these things with such short notice. Some advance warning would have been nice. I'm decently certain a fair amount of euros won't even see the thread or get the information about your qualifier.

Personally i just can't cancel other plans at this stage, as fuzer said earlier, scandinavians tend to celebrate midsummer as one of the more major holidays. Not saying you need to take nationally specific cultural celebrations into account in your planning, but at least give more than a 3-4 day heads up.
MLG John
Profile Joined January 2012
United States34 Posts
June 19 2012 00:30 GMT
#23
On June 19 2012 08:31 KeyHunt wrote:
"* Players who are qualified for the NA Continental Finals cannot participate in any Summer Online Qualifiers."
What does this mean?

Also, a total of 144 players in the open bracket; with 32 being removed each round in loser's..so wouldn't that be anyone round 3 or above would be top 80?

Thanks,


At the Summer Championship, there will be an MLG Starcraft II Event and the North America Continental Finals of the Starcraft II World Championship Series. Players will not be allowed to play in both Events. So, Players who have already qualified for the NA Continental Finals, like the Players who finished in the top 16 of the USA Nationals in Anaheim, won't be allowed to participate in any MLG Summer Online Qualifiers.

There were also 16 Players who started in Pool Play, making a total of 160 Players in the Spring Championship Event. Remember, the number of Players in each Losers Bracket round decrease as you progress. The eliminations proceeded as follows:

Losers Round 1 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 128 in the Event
Losers Round 2 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 96 in the Event
Losers Round 3 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 80 in the Event
Losers Round 4 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 64 in the Event
Losers Round 5 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 48 in the Event
Losers Round 6 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving 40 in the Event
Losers Round 7 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving the 32 Championship Bracket Players

There are three Rounds in a row where 16 Players are eliminated because of the 16 Players who started in Open Winners Round 4.
You had to reach Open Losers Round 4 in order to finish top 80 overall.
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 00:49:23
June 19 2012 00:30 GMT
#24
never mind, I'm too slow

Edit: So we'll already know why Idra, Suppy, Fitzyhere, Illusion, Hawk, ViBE, Perfect, Insur, State, and Mystik won't be in the Invite-Only Online Qualifiers, despite finishing Top 80 in Anaheim.
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BigBirdy90
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada135 Posts
June 19 2012 00:38 GMT
#25
Why is none of NA on weekends?(friday doesn't count people still work). The TSL was same way, I want to play in these tournaments but I work monday-friday evenings. Makes me sad. Still love MLG tho..
MLG John
Profile Joined January 2012
United States34 Posts
June 19 2012 00:42 GMT
#26
On June 19 2012 08:46 LaLuSh wrote:
I don't see why you announce these things with such short notice. Some advance warning would have been nice. I'm decently certain a fair amount of euros won't even see the thread or get the information about your qualifier.

Personally i just can't cancel other plans at this stage, as fuzer said earlier, scandinavians tend to celebrate midsummer as one of the more major holidays. Not saying you need to take nationally specific cultural celebrations into account in your planning, but at least give more than a 3-4 day heads up.


With Dreamhack this past weekend and the United Kingdom Nationals of the Starcraft II World Championship Series in two weeks, this coming weekend was the only feasible weekend that could be used for MLG Europe Qualifiers while giving us enough time to book reasonably priced flights and for Players to obtain any necessary visas for the Summer Arena (July 20-22).

You're right, in the future we can make an effort to provide more notice. If it means you won't be able to participate this time around, that will be unfortunate.
Fuzer
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Finland266 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 00:51:09
June 19 2012 00:47 GMT
#27
On June 19 2012 09:42 MLG John wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 08:46 LaLuSh wrote:
I don't see why you announce these things with such short notice. Some advance warning would have been nice. I'm decently certain a fair amount of euros won't even see the thread or get the information about your qualifier.

Personally i just can't cancel other plans at this stage, as fuzer said earlier, scandinavians tend to celebrate midsummer as one of the more major holidays. Not saying you need to take nationally specific cultural celebrations into account in your planning, but at least give more than a 3-4 day heads up.


With Dreamhack this past weekend and the United Kingdom Nationals of the Starcraft II World Championship Series in two weeks, this coming weekend was the only feasible weekend that could be used for MLG Europe Qualifiers while giving us enough time to book reasonably priced flights and for Players to obtain any necessary visas for the Summer Arena (July 20-22).

You're right, in the future we can make an effort to provide more notice. If it means you won't be able to participate this time around, that will be unfortunate.


Why it has to be weekend? (:
I mean, you wont see any fins who have friends at this tournament because of the date.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 19 2012 01:16 GMT
#28
Just a question.... why is it that EU + KR are getting 9 spots at the Arena, but NA is only getting 6? Koreans are already dominating the NA one, this just means there is less of a chance for US players to qualify.

I'm just curious as to why this decision was made to give EU+KR 18 spots but only 6 for NA.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 19 2012 01:19 GMT
#29
I think for EU, the logical idea is to entice more to come since there is such a low showing of EU players (though they did magnificently).

As for KR, dunno.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 19 2012 01:33 GMT
#30
I do like that MLG is pushing for Koreans NOT playing in the NA regional though... but what are the Invite-Only qualifier dates?? Golden is in the USA now, but will go back to Korea at some point so I need to know when the dates are so I can know which one to sign him up for.

Thanks
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 19 2012 01:34 GMT
#31
wow haha short notice
hope to see many awesome names participating! :D
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RaNgeD
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States733 Posts
June 19 2012 01:38 GMT
#32
damn, since I qualified for WCS NA I can't try to qualify for the Arena, & I can't play at MLG?
I hope that next year they are ran as seperate events.
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:7
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 02:16:38
June 19 2012 01:50 GMT
#33
On June 19 2012 09:30 MLG John wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 08:31 KeyHunt wrote:
"* Players who are qualified for the NA Continental Finals cannot participate in any Summer Online Qualifiers."
What does this mean?

Also, a total of 144 players in the open bracket; with 32 being removed each round in loser's..so wouldn't that be anyone round 3 or above would be top 80?

Thanks,


At the Summer Championship, there will be an MLG Starcraft II Event and the North America Continental Finals of the Starcraft II World Championship Series. Players will not be allowed to play in both Events. So, Players who have already qualified for the NA Continental Finals, like the Players who finished in the top 16 of the USA Nationals in Anaheim, won't be allowed to participate in any MLG Summer Online Qualifiers.

There were also 16 Players who started in Pool Play, making a total of 160 Players in the Spring Championship Event. Remember, the number of Players in each Losers Bracket round decrease as you progress. The eliminations proceeded as follows:

Losers Round 1 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 128 in the Event
Losers Round 2 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 96 in the Event
Losers Round 3 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 80 in the Event
Losers Round 4 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 64 in the Event
Losers Round 5 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 48 in the Event
Losers Round 6 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving 40 in the Event
Losers Round 7 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving the 32 Championship Bracket Players

There are three Rounds in a row where 16 Players are eliminated because of the 16 Players who started in Open Winners Round 4.
You had to reach Open Losers Round 4 in order to finish top 80 overall.



So I am clear..if you qualified for the WCS in Raleigh..you are NOT allowed to play in the qualifier for the Arena..and not even allowed to play in the main event? I am sorry, but did no one tell us this before? I would think a lot of players would be really upset by that and some would even choose to not play in the WCS to play in the MLG event...
mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
June 19 2012 02:13 GMT
#34
Did I miss something earlier? Why can't players compete in both events? I don't really see a reason why not.
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jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 02:16:29
June 19 2012 02:13 GMT
#35
On June 19 2012 10:50 KeyHunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 09:30 MLG John wrote:
On June 19 2012 08:31 KeyHunt wrote:
"* Players who are qualified for the NA Continental Finals cannot participate in any Summer Online Qualifiers."
What does this mean?

Also, a total of 144 players in the open bracket; with 32 being removed each round in loser's..so wouldn't that be anyone round 3 or above would be top 80?

Thanks,


At the Summer Championship, there will be an MLG Starcraft II Event and the North America Continental Finals of the Starcraft II World Championship Series. Players will not be allowed to play in both Events. So, Players who have already qualified for the NA Continental Finals, like the Players who finished in the top 16 of the USA Nationals in Anaheim, won't be allowed to participate in any MLG Summer Online Qualifiers.

There were also 16 Players who started in Pool Play, making a total of 160 Players in the Spring Championship Event. Remember, the number of Players in each Losers Bracket round decrease as you progress. The eliminations proceeded as follows:

Losers Round 1 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 128 in the Event
Losers Round 2 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 96 in the Event
Losers Round 3 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 80 in the Event
Losers Round 4 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 64 in the Event
Losers Round 5 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 48 in the Event
Losers Round 6 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving 40 in the Event
Losers Round 7 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving the 32 Championship Bracket Players

There are three Rounds in a row where 16 Players are eliminated because of the 16 Players who started in Open Winners Round 4.
You had to reach Open Losers Round 4 in order to finish top 80 overall.


John, maybe I am missing something but liquipedia says that there were 128 players in the open bracket, then the 16 from champ which makes it 144..what am I missing? This is a big deal; as that means the difference between quite a few players qualifying.


Where on liquipedia? The Spring Championship Page there makes reference to "256 open bracket signups" and "Number of players: 144" (in reference to total participation), both of which are incorrect.

There were 128 players who entered the tournament at OWR1, 16 more who started in OWR4, and 16 starting in the Pools, for a total of 160.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
June 19 2012 02:16 GMT
#36
On June 19 2012 11:13 jobber123rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 10:50 KeyHunt wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:30 MLG John wrote:
On June 19 2012 08:31 KeyHunt wrote:
"* Players who are qualified for the NA Continental Finals cannot participate in any Summer Online Qualifiers."
What does this mean?

Also, a total of 144 players in the open bracket; with 32 being removed each round in loser's..so wouldn't that be anyone round 3 or above would be top 80?

Thanks,


At the Summer Championship, there will be an MLG Starcraft II Event and the North America Continental Finals of the Starcraft II World Championship Series. Players will not be allowed to play in both Events. So, Players who have already qualified for the NA Continental Finals, like the Players who finished in the top 16 of the USA Nationals in Anaheim, won't be allowed to participate in any MLG Summer Online Qualifiers.

There were also 16 Players who started in Pool Play, making a total of 160 Players in the Spring Championship Event. Remember, the number of Players in each Losers Bracket round decrease as you progress. The eliminations proceeded as follows:

Losers Round 1 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 128 in the Event
Losers Round 2 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 96 in the Event
Losers Round 3 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 80 in the Event
Losers Round 4 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 64 in the Event
Losers Round 5 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 48 in the Event
Losers Round 6 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving 40 in the Event
Losers Round 7 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving the 32 Championship Bracket Players

There are three Rounds in a row where 16 Players are eliminated because of the 16 Players who started in Open Winners Round 4.
You had to reach Open Losers Round 4 in order to finish top 80 overall.


John, maybe I am missing something but liquipedia says that there were 128 players in the open bracket, then the 16 from champ which makes it 144..what am I missing? This is a big deal; as that means the difference between quite a few players qualifying.

Also, so I am clear..if you qualified for the WCS in Raleigh..you are NOT allowed to play in the qualifier for the Arena..and not even allowed to play in the main event? I am sorry, but did no one tell us this before? I would think a lot of players would be really upset by that and some would even choose to not play in the WCS to play in the MLG event...


Where on liquipedia? The Spring Championship Page there makes reference to "256 open bracket signups" and "Number of players: 144" (in reference to total participation), both of which are incorrect.

There were 128 players who entered the tournament at OWR1, 16 more who started in OWR4, and 16 starting in the Pools, for a total of 160.


That is exactly the number I missed; the 16 who were added in OWR4; OK..that number makes sense now.
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
June 19 2012 02:19 GMT
#37
I really don't like being barred from the main event, I mean we're players and we like to complain that we played for 12 hours straight with few breaks and how evil the schedule is. But that said I was still able to place top 12 in WCS and top 80 in MLG and playing in both tournaments had its benefits because I got to double my major lan tournament experience. Please reconsider ;(.
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
June 19 2012 02:35 GMT
#38
Some of these players look forward to playing in both events. They need the exposure provided from both events to make their trip worthwhile, and to help their career. Not every player in this community, especially a lot of the ones who qualified for WCS NA can afford to just pass up an event because they don't need the exposure. Please, just allow the players who WANT to participate to participate in both.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 19 2012 02:46 GMT
#39
I don't get it. The qualifiers are for a separate event (Arena) from the Championship which conflicts with WCS NA Finals.

If they wanted to prevent schedule conflicts, they could just put a restriction from the players competing in the Championship (if they manage to get a place by doing well in Arena). Why prevent a player from competing in the Arena AND Championships?
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Kauz
Profile Joined December 2010
United States38 Posts
June 19 2012 02:47 GMT
#40
This is just unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. Especially with no warning and no explanation. Its not as if Dreamhack just happened. I know each season is a season unto itself, but that doesn't stop you from being able to tell people during a previous season about an upcoming qualifier so they can prepare. That aside, it doesn't excuse not being forward about the WCS/MLG combination issue. Not at all fair play as far as disclosure is concerned.
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