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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
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riff
United States113 Posts
On June 19 2012 09:30 MLG John wrote: At the Summer Championship, there will be an MLG Starcraft II Event and the North America Continental Finals of the Starcraft II World Championship Series. Players will not be allowed to play in both Events. So, Players who have already qualified for the NA Continental Finals, like the Players who finished in the top 16 of the USA Nationals in Anaheim, won't be allowed to participate in any MLG Summer Online Qualifiers. There were also 16 Players who started in Pool Play, making a total of 160 Players in the Spring Championship Event. Remember, the number of Players in each Losers Bracket round decrease as you progress. The eliminations proceeded as follows: Losers Round 1 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 128 in the Event Losers Round 2 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 96 in the Event Losers Round 3 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 80 in the Event Losers Round 4 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 64 in the Event Losers Round 5 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 48 in the Event Losers Round 6 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving 40 in the Event Losers Round 7 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving the 32 Championship Bracket Players There are three Rounds in a row where 16 Players are eliminated because of the 16 Players who started in Open Winners Round 4. You had to reach Open Losers Round 4 in order to finish top 80 overall. This is a very poor way to handle the situation. Blizzard and MLG have screwed the pooch on this one, but I blame MLG more than Blizzard. Do better MLG, this is not acceptable. | ||
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
Hope this is in regard to this... | ||
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LavendrGooms
United States134 Posts
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WHyTePoWeR
Korea (South)132 Posts
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
On June 19 2012 16:35 KunA wrote: Its definitely not right to punish the players for their poor choice of putting both events at the same time. Yeah I get the players complained and now yeah they won't complain aobut playing in two tournaments, now they'll complain of being barred from playing in both and getting prize money for both if they are good enough. Also people who would wanna see IdrA, HuK, and NonY play at MLG. um...who are these people you speak of exactly? As I recall, from a tournament organization perspective; conflicting schedules of the players is too much of a risk to the overall tournament qualify i.e. pick one. | ||
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JackDT
724 Posts
And not letting them into the Arena is just silly and I can't even imagine what they were thinking. Even if players knew they couldn't win a trip to MLG by getting there I think most would choose to compete for the prize money. | ||
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
On June 20 2012 06:13 JackDT wrote: Players complained about MLG and WCS overlapping but most of them still chose to play in both because they decided it still worth it -- both were such important events that they couldn't justify skipping one. Being barred from one event entirely is NOT a better solution. Adding an extra day into the tournament so they can spread it out is. And not letting them into the Arena is just silly and I can't even imagine what they were thinking. Even if players knew they couldn't win a trip to MLG by getting there I think most would choose to compete for the prize money. This. Since players complain about having to participate in two tournaments on the same day, let's just make it easier for them and remove that option. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/wcs-na-mlg-sc2-summer-championship-update/ The MLG Summer Championship, to be held in Raleigh, NC on August 24-26, will feature the North American Finals of the StarCraft II World Championship Series, in addition to the MLG Pro Circuit StarCraft II Summer Championship. The top finishers from the North American Continentals will be representing their countries later this year at the Battle.net World Championship in Asia; this is huge event with a great deal at stake. We know that both the North American Finals and the Pro Circuit Summer Championship are incredibly important to the StarCraft II community. Our goal, when determining how these two events would work together in Raleigh, was to ensure the best possible tournament experience for all players in both tournaments. Blizzard was not party to the original schedule release. After listening to extensive community feedback, MLG worked closely with Blizzard to ensure that the participants in the WCS NA Finals would not be forced to choose between participating in that event and the MLG Pro Circuit Summer Championship. It is critically important to both Blizzard and MLG that players be able to compete as they choose. Schedules will now be staggered so that players can compete in both events. North American Finals competitors; you can now participate in all aspects of the MLG Summer Season, including the Open and Invite-Only Online Qualifiers, the Arena, and the Summer Championship. Registration for the Open Online Qualifiers is open now. Detailed schedules for both of Raleigh’s StarCraft II events will be released in the coming weeks. | ||
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Gl!tch
United States573 Posts
It is critically important to both Blizzard and MLG that players be able to compete as they choose. Schedules will now be staggered... via: https://twitter.com/MLGSundance | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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Blackrobe
United States806 Posts
On June 20 2012 06:22 jmbthirteen wrote: PLAYERS CAN NOW PLAY IN BOTH http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/wcs-na-mlg-sc2-summer-championship-update/ There you go MLG! :D Much better. <3 | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
So critically important they didn't realize it until now. Yeah, sure. Why does everything have to be fixed after public outcries? Is it too much to ask to come up with a decent plan to begin with? | ||
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Sikly
United States413 Posts
On June 20 2012 06:59 StarVe wrote: So critically important they didn't realize it until now. Yeah, sure. Why does everything have to be fixed after public outcries? Is it too much to ask to come up with a decent plan to begin with? To be honest this sounds like a lack of communication. This is something easily handled by just asking the teams and players what they would prefer, and MLG/Blizzard would have realized instantly that it was the wrong choice. I'm glad they listened and will now not only allow people to compete in both but stagger the tournaments. If done even somewhat decently it should eliminate almost all issues with competing in two tournaments. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
Seriously, well played. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On June 20 2012 07:04 draumr wrote: To be honest this sounds like a lack of communication. This is something easily handled by just asking the teams and players what they would prefer, and MLG/Blizzard would have realized instantly that it was the wrong choice. I'm glad they listened and will now not only allow people to compete in both but stagger the tournaments. If done even somewhat decently it should eliminate almost all issues with competing in two tournaments. There doesn't even need to be communication. Just have a decent schedule and you've done your work as a tournament, since we apparently can't expect them to make the tournaments separate events like almost every other WCS event around the world has been. Teams are aware of the shitty situation that having to play tournaments at once creates because the last tournament with the same issues just happened. If they want to focus on one thing, they'll choose so. Most will want to play both anyway because of the exposure and experience you get. Don't fucking force them to choose! If they didn't want to play both, they would've been able to arrange that completely fine on their own. I can't even imagine how you come up with something like that. Whoever at MLG decided the first announcement was a good idea, seems so out of touch with the players, the teams, the viewers, the community, with everything, really. "So, uhh, we have this big tournament coming up. With all the big players who pull a lot of viewers for us attending, HuK, IdrA, NonY, Illusion, you know? Now this is brilliant - just listen! We're gonna make 'em play, but only one tournament! Half the amount of matches they would want to play! They have to choose between the events! Awesome, right?" "So we'll definitely have one tournament without any of the NA figureheads?" "Exaaactly! And here's the best thing! You remember these arena events we're doing with the PPV method? They won't be able to play there either!" | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On June 19 2012 09:30 MLG John wrote: At the Summer Championship, there will be an MLG Starcraft II Event and the North America Continental Finals of the Starcraft II World Championship Series. Players will not be allowed to play in both Events. So, Players who have already qualified for the NA Continental Finals, like the Players who finished in the top 16 of the USA Nationals in Anaheim, won't be allowed to participate in any MLG Summer Online Qualifiers. There were also 16 Players who started in Pool Play, making a total of 160 Players in the Spring Championship Event. Remember, the number of Players in each Losers Bracket round decrease as you progress. The eliminations proceeded as follows: Losers Round 1 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 128 in the Event Losers Round 2 = 32 Players eliminated, leaving 96 in the Event Losers Round 3 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 80 in the Event Losers Round 4 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 64 in the Event Losers Round 5 = 16 Players eliminated, leaving 48 in the Event Losers Round 6 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving 40 in the Event Losers Round 7 = 8 Players eliminated, leaving the 32 Championship Bracket Players There are three Rounds in a row where 16 Players are eliminated because of the 16 Players who started in Open Winners Round 4. You had to reach Open Losers Round 4 in order to finish top 80 overall. Well this is some serious BS. EDIT: Oh hai there SUNDANCE. Nice save. I just picture Dustin Browder busting into MLG HQ destroying all the destructible rocks along the away. And he's all like "You must stagger the schedule or you will have to use maps with MOAR destructible rocks MUAHAHAHHAA." | ||
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Tidus Mino
United Kingdom1108 Posts
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