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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
June 19 2012 03:30 GMT
#61
On June 19 2012 11:51 Darkomicron wrote:
This is really, really bad... Players have to be able to grab every opportunity for events and to play in them. Only allowing them to compete in one of two is just bad for the scene.

couldn't agree more this is not right MLG let the players decide if they want too play in 1 our 2 dont take the decision away from them
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Ollix
Profile Joined October 2011
United States18 Posts
June 19 2012 03:34 GMT
#62
Why is MLG news always two steps forward and one step back, this year?

We are having arenas to get pro players more chances to compete and more tourneys for viewers. Oh, and its pay-per-view.
Big news on the horizon including an exclusive deal with KeSPA. Oh, and its an exclusivity agreement.

This is not the way to go about fixing the scheduling problems that WCG caused for the pros. MLG is sometimes the only tournament that some of the lesser known American players who don't have big-name teams can be seen. Kind of an obnoxious decision.
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Kyptastic
Profile Joined April 2012
Australia4 Posts
June 19 2012 03:41 GMT
#63
On June 19 2012 12:06 jmbthirteen wrote:
Quite frankly, it doesn't need to take 3 days to finish WCS. Its only 64 players, that can be done in 2 days. I would have liked to see them start WCS a day earlier. With the actual MLG tournament not starting until 5pm on Friday, WCS could be almost done by then, and only a few players would be playing in both tournaments at the same time.
.


North American Nationals are only 32 players. They could probably get it done in a day/day and a half if they really wanted to.
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
June 19 2012 03:41 GMT
#64
On June 19 2012 12:29 Kharnage wrote:
DRAAAMMMMAAAAAA! E-Sports is over! It's the end times!!

If these were 2 seperate events at 2 seperate locations, like IPL / MLG then you couldn't physically be at both and everyone would be saying 'well, it sucks that they are both on teh same weekend, guess players will have to choose which tournament is more important to them.

But because these 2 tournaments are at the same location this causes drama and 'omg worst thing in the world!'

This is not a big deal. 2 tournaments, 1 weekend, don't compete in both or you'll play like shit in both. Now that you're not allowed to compete in both, at least the games in both will be good, focused games.


Statistically not true; look at the players who competed in both in Anaheim...they all did fairly well in both brackets considering their match-ups. I am not saying it doesn't hurt to play that many matches..what I am saying is you should allow people to choose.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 19 2012 03:44 GMT
#65
to be honest, most of the competitors for WCS North America wouldn't make it to Day 3 MLG anyway though. Maybe 5-10 at most out of 32?
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Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
June 19 2012 03:46 GMT
#66
People complain about the appearance of being able to play at both events.

MLG understands, makes it extremely clear you can only play in one event.

People complain about only being able to play at one event.

LIFE HAS NO MEANING.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
June 19 2012 03:49 GMT
#67
I thought this Blizzard/MLG deal was supposed to be good for everyone? Why can't blizzard just run their own shit
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
June 19 2012 03:50 GMT
#68
Assuming HuK is also going to qualify for NA WCS through Canada...

You guys are seriously going to prevent the 2 most popular NA players from MLG? How can MLG possibly take that from Blizzard?
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 03:54:24
June 19 2012 03:51 GMT
#69
On June 19 2012 12:46 SimDawg wrote:
People complain about the appearance of being able to play at both events.

MLG understands, makes it extremely clear you can only play in one event.

People complain about only being able to play at one event.

LIFE HAS NO MEANING.


The events should be held apart from each other. Yes the players wanted it changed so they didn't have to play in two tournies at once, making them choose is not the answer.

It is bad for the players, it is bad for the teams, it is bad for us (the most important) the fans. There is no reason for them not too hold two seperate tournies on different dates. Nobody gives a shit about the Blizzard WCS. hold that crap online.
RaNgeD
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 03:57:46
June 19 2012 03:55 GMT
#70
On June 19 2012 12:29 Kharnage wrote:
DRAAAMMMMAAAAAA! E-Sports is over! It's the end times!!

If these were 2 seperate events at 2 seperate locations, like IPL / MLG then you couldn't physically be at both and everyone would be saying 'well, it sucks that they are both on teh same weekend, guess players will have to choose which tournament is more important to them.

But because these 2 tournaments are at the same location this causes drama and 'omg worst thing in the world!'

This is not a big deal. 2 tournaments, 1 weekend, don't compete in both or you'll play like shit in both. Now that you're not allowed to compete in both, at least the games in both will be good, focused games.


Are you a pro player?
There is a reason that for the most part, big events are not scheduled on the same weekend. As a player that has worked really really hard but hasn't had a big breakout tournament yet, I want as many opportunities as I can get..
Being forced to choose between WCS or MLG, or in this case, being forced to play in WCS, blows.
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:7
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 04:01:39
June 19 2012 03:56 GMT
#71
On June 19 2012 12:29 Kharnage wrote:
DRAAAMMMMAAAAAA! E-Sports is over! It's the end times!!

If these were 2 seperate events at 2 seperate locations, like IPL / MLG then you couldn't physically be at both and everyone would be saying 'well, it sucks that they are both on teh same weekend, guess players will have to choose which tournament is more important to them.

But because these 2 tournaments are at the same location this causes drama and 'omg worst thing in the world!'

This is not a big deal. 2 tournaments, 1 weekend, don't compete in both or you'll play like shit in both. Now that you're not allowed to compete in both, at least the games in both will be good, focused games.


The thing is the players were not given a choice, no one outside MLG knew this was going to happen in advance and all the NA pros played WCS assuming nothing would go wrong. now they have no choice at all and cannot play in the summer arena or summer championship just because they decided to play in blizzards huge tournament ( who wouldn't choose to do that? )

On June 19 2012 12:46 SimDawg wrote:
People complain about the appearance of being able to play at both events.

MLG understands, makes it extremely clear you can only play in one event.

People complain about only being able to play at one event.

LIFE HAS NO MEANING.


you don't get it.

On June 19 2012 12:44 opterown wrote:
to be honest, most of the competitors for WCS North America wouldn't make it to Day 3 MLG anyway though. Maybe 5-10 at most out of 32?


even if you take this route you have to also add in that they cannot try to qualify for the summer arena which has no conflicting dates with WCS as well as not being allowed to play at the championships.
Mairu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States222 Posts
June 19 2012 04:00 GMT
#72
MLG handled hosting the USA WCS pretty poorly and it looks like they're going to do it again with the NA Continental Championship. I hope they choose a different partner if Blizzard does this again next year.
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
June 19 2012 04:01 GMT
#73
You guys have had no problem conflicting your events with Dreamhack which you've done on many occasions in the past - which is bad for viewership for both parties I might add - But you can't run a 32-man tournament simultaneously?

Makes. Sense. None.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 04:11:48
June 19 2012 04:02 GMT
#74
Am I retarded ?

The op clearly says... if you are qualified for WCS Continentals you cant play in the online qualifier. This does NOT preclude you from playing at MLG Raleigh.

The reason behind this is that the Arena is a way to give a player a free ride to MLG. WCS players are already getting free trips, HENCE they are not allowed to play in the Arena qualifiers.

CONFLICTING INFO!

exact wording: * Players who are qualified for the NA Continental Finals cannot participate in any Summer Online Qualifiers.


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byobong7
Profile Joined February 2010
United States207 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 04:05:00
June 19 2012 04:04 GMT
#75
On June 19 2012 13:02 Xeris wrote:
Am I retarded or does everyone in this thread have really shitty reading comprehension.

The op clearly says... if you are qualified for WCS Continentals you cant play in the online qualifier. This does NOT preclude you from playing at MLG Raleigh.

The reason behind this is that the Arena is a way to give a player a free ride to MLG. WCS players are already getting free trips, HENCE they are not allowed to play in the Arena qualifiers.

Unless I really badly misread this, you're all dumb :D

exact wording: * Players who are qualified for the NA Continental Finals cannot participate in any Summer Online Qualifiers.


chillax homies


At the Summer Championship, there will be an MLG Starcraft II Event and the North America Continental Finals of the Starcraft II World Championship Series. Players will not be allowed to play in both Events.


I mean thats pretty clear wording. Can't play in both events.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 19 2012 04:04 GMT
#76
On June 19 2012 13:02 Xeris wrote:
Am I retarded or does everyone in this thread have really shitty reading comprehension.

The op clearly says... if you are qualified for WCS Continentals you cant play in the online qualifier. This does NOT preclude you from playing at MLG Raleigh.

The reason behind this is that the Arena is a way to give a player a free ride to MLG. WCS players are already getting free trips, HENCE they are not allowed to play in the Arena qualifiers.

Unless I really badly misread this, you're all dumb :D

exact wording: * Players who are qualified for the NA Continental Finals cannot participate in any Summer Online Qualifiers.


chillax homies

check page two

On June 19 2012 09:30 MLG John wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 08:31 KeyHunt wrote:
"* Players who are qualified for the NA Continental Finals cannot participate in any Summer Online Qualifiers."
What does this mean?

Also, a total of 144 players in the open bracket; with 32 being removed each round in loser's..so wouldn't that be anyone round 3 or above would be top 80?

Thanks,


At the Summer Championship, there will be an MLG Starcraft II Event and the North America Continental Finals of the Starcraft II World Championship Series. Players will not be allowed to play in both Events. So, Players who have already qualified for the NA Continental Finals, like the Players who finished in the top 16 of the USA Nationals in Anaheim, won't be allowed to participate in any MLG Summer Online Qualifiers.

.

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Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 04:06:52
June 19 2012 04:04 GMT
#77
On June 19 2012 13:02 Xeris wrote:
Am I retarded or does everyone in this thread have really shitty reading comprehension.

The op clearly says... if you are qualified for WCS Continentals you cant play in the online qualifier. This does NOT preclude you from playing at MLG Raleigh.

The reason behind this is that the Arena is a way to give a player a free ride to MLG. WCS players are already getting free trips, HENCE they are not allowed to play in the Arena qualifiers.

Unless I really badly misread this, you're all dumb :D


Not playing in the Online qualifier gives you a non-seed for Raleigh meaning you start in the Open Bracket rather than straight into Pool Play in a tournament where the prize pool actually matters.

As for your last sentence, hypocrite.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 19 2012 04:12 GMT
#78
Conflicting info then #_#... WELP IM RETARDED
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yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
June 19 2012 04:15 GMT
#79
Xeris, I actually thought the wording was not 100% unambiguous, but Idra's twitter and MLG's lack of response (despite actively responding to messages at the beginning) kinda confirms the 'wtf' interpretation.
Sikly
Profile Joined June 2011
United States413 Posts
June 19 2012 04:25 GMT
#80
On June 19 2012 12:29 Kharnage wrote:
DRAAAMMMMAAAAAA! E-Sports is over! It's the end times!!

If these were 2 seperate events at 2 seperate locations, like IPL / MLG then you couldn't physically be at both and everyone would be saying 'well, it sucks that they are both on teh same weekend, guess players will have to choose which tournament is more important to them.

But because these 2 tournaments are at the same location this causes drama and 'omg worst thing in the world!'

This is not a big deal. 2 tournaments, 1 weekend, don't compete in both or you'll play like shit in both. Now that you're not allowed to compete in both, at least the games in both will be good, focused games.


Ok than. Lets just revoke everyone in EU who participated in Dreamhack from WCS. I mean, its not like Blizzard paid to have a venue, casters, and staff to manage those events seperate from Dreamhack right?

Oh whats that you say, the US is the only country getting fucked out of competing in their countries biggest tournaments and WCS at the same time? This is like GSTL and GSL being on the same day and Squirtle/MVP only being able to play in one or the other, except not as big of names. Theirs no excuse for such poor handling of the situation.

This is actually completely unacceptable in my eyes. It isn't going to help make MLG any more organized. It's still going to be a chaotic environment, except now they have to deal with two distinct separate tournaments that have different players playing, and not get things mixed up. I'd honestly rather the NA qualifier to be done online at a different date than just bar WCS players from competing in MLG. Blizzard had been doing so well with the WCS up to this point, they need to come up with a way to not have this stain on their otherwise very decently ran tournament.

Hopefully Canada doesn't get screwed at NASL considering NASL is far smaller and easier to run than open bracket of MLG.
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