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Dustin Browder, David Kim Interviews - Page 6

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Knutzi
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway664 Posts
June 13 2012 04:59 GMT
#101
wish someone would have asked why carrier is pretty much the only unit that have been complained about since release yet they never even tried to patch it.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 13 2012 04:59 GMT
#102
I love how wax just cracked up when DK said "hurting esports"
moo...for DRG
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
June 13 2012 05:00 GMT
#103
I've seen more Carriers then Battle Cruisers sense I think SC2 hit beta... and they want to remove the Carrier because its useless? I've atleast seen people win. Even in TvT, the only match up you really see the BC, its just kinda wiped out unless you rush it earlier verse a guy with only marines....
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 13 2012 05:00 GMT
#104
Bah, I wasn't a fan of the questions asked or how they were asked, they didn't really seem to get the actual opinions of the community out there.

But even more so I'm incredibly discouraged with how Blizzard is approaching things. Seems awful to me, I've heard Browder speak before and he has too much of a "what I envision" rather than what the community wants. I mean, he didn't even know BW well. Ugh...

And NP on mothership is definitely a huge issue. If you get it off successfully usually the game will instantly win for the Zerg.
xTrim
Profile Joined April 2011
472 Posts
June 13 2012 05:01 GMT
#105
RAVENS????????????
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
June 13 2012 05:01 GMT
#106
On June 13 2012 14:00 TheRavensName wrote:
I've seen more Carriers then Battle Cruisers sense I think SC2 hit beta... and they want to remove the Carrier because its useless? I've atleast seen people win. Even in TvT, the only match up you really see the BC, its just kinda wiped out unless you rush it earlier verse a guy with only marines....


There's been a helluva lot more Battlecrusiers than Carriers. They're pretty legit in TvP as well with Ghost support.
KenZo-
Profile Joined December 2010
Faroe Islands190 Posts
June 13 2012 05:01 GMT
#107
maybe he should look at the TOP tier ZvT in the GSL lately statistics.. oh well good interview. Thanks
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 05:04:18
June 13 2012 05:03 GMT
#108
Disappointing there was no follow up to Dustin Browder's comment about carriers. He generalizes the entire debate. Ignoring the arguments many brought up, and the general reasons they want to remove the carrier are based off incorrect facts. I'm not sure which community he listens to, cause they chime the same argument in unison. Made me sad and cynical again of Blizzard.

David Kim interview was pretty interesting. I'm glad it was much longer.
Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
June 13 2012 05:05 GMT
#109
I really liked wax's interview with david kim.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 13 2012 05:06 GMT
#110
On June 13 2012 13:52 AzureD wrote:
Why does almost no one use Banelings + Infested Terrans to counter Archon toilets? I don't understand this.

Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 13:47 ktimekiller wrote:
ROFL Dustin is not aware of the Mothership in ZvP

Freaking pathetic awareness of his own game hes designing (ruining)


Here we have an example of hearing what you want to hear. People want to find faults in people to justify their prejudices.


IT can be good but the issue is that you'll still lose all your BL to archons, then toss just sacks his archons. Now what? You have no energy on your infestors - they're taking up supply, and if toss remaxes on something you're boned. You have to be careful with teh energy, and it's not like Toss throws their entire army into the toilet. It's meant to get the Zerg army coupled with Toss archons, and some blink stalkers. That's it. Which is also why banes, which are fickle due to storm and colossi being in play, are also not used. You going to throw in banes to do splash dmg to archons? It' snot like the banes get to hit every unit in the toilet - archons only work because they're so good vs the air. Also, vortex is used to phase out certain units from a battle as well, not just for the toilet.
SurvivorMMA
Profile Joined June 2012
United States14 Posts
June 13 2012 05:06 GMT
#111
Battle Hellions are so boring
!SlayerS_MMA! fighting~ Please return to GSL soon CoCa! PM me if you love the show Survivor (:
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 13 2012 05:07 GMT
#112
I think overall, Blizz is a little too optimistic about WOL. It's a great game, but it does have many flaws.

From the sounds of it in the interview, they are building HOTS around/over these flaws rather than doing the gutsy move and fixing them on the spot.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
June 13 2012 05:07 GMT
#113
Just listen the interview with Dustin. Not as impressive as the 2011 one.

On the other hand, i enjoyed a LOT the interview with Grubby. Kinda sad to see that indeed Sc2 is a bit coinflippy even at higher levels u.u

Chicken gank op
CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
Profile Joined June 2012
544 Posts
June 13 2012 05:08 GMT
#114
On June 13 2012 14:01 HeroMystic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 14:00 TheRavensName wrote:
I've seen more Carriers then Battle Cruisers sense I think SC2 hit beta... and they want to remove the Carrier because its useless? I've atleast seen people win. Even in TvT, the only match up you really see the BC, its just kinda wiped out unless you rush it earlier verse a guy with only marines....


There's been a helluva lot more Battlecrusiers than Carriers. They're pretty legit in TvP as well with Ghost support.


Carriers are the ultimate units PvZ so u know. kinda ignorant, really sad ppl have to go to the game developpers and tell them their units are actually used in the gsl, wonder when they watch it, since they do so much...
awaiting the return of the space cowboy
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 05:08:47
June 13 2012 05:08 GMT
#115
I think overall, Blizz is a little too optimistic about WOL. It's a great game, but it does have many flaws.

From the sounds of it in the interview, they are building HOTS around/over these flaws rather than doing the gutsy move and fixing them at the source.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 05:15:37
June 13 2012 05:13 GMT
#116
I think they're actually replacing the Archon Toilet with something stronger against Zerg. Stasis Field against air units. If all air units are negated than the Protoss can just a-move and kill all the ground units (as the current zerg ground units aren't as strong). Once Stasis Field wears off, the air units will then be easy to deal with (not sure how big the radius/range on Stasis Field is on the HotS Mothership though). Though, we'll see how it goes.

Also this is good game on how Zero dealt with an attempt at an Archon Toilet (he split up his BL and put them under a group of spines).
+ Show Spoiler +



Of course in sudden engagements where you just notice the Protoss army moving out, it will be sort of a coinflip to see who wins (whether the Vortex will miss or you can NP before Vortex hits).

I know that in HotS, Hydralisk / Viper / Swarm Host (at least from that Battle Report) seem to be really effective late game. They said they wanted the older unit compositions to still work but it seems the new Mothership ability is actually stronger than the Archon Toilet (again, I don't know the range of Stasis Field but being able to Stasis all air units to divide the army seem really strong).
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
June 13 2012 05:14 GMT
#117
The best part of the David Kim interview is at 24:00, when he talks about why they introduce two 1-A units to Terran and two not-1-A units to Protoss. Smart thing they did there. I was intensively criticizing the warhound and battlehellion, and I didn't see their intention is kinda legit in some way.
Teriyaki-Boy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States26 Posts
June 13 2012 05:15 GMT
#118
As much as the 22 range tempest sound cool and all but it just an A-move unit nothing special about it. The carrier on the other hand has potential, if they actually fix the way carrier are suppose to function and with carrier you can actually micro them, which mean is more fun to used.CARRIER>>>TEMPEST
What is love? baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more......
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
June 13 2012 05:16 GMT
#119
haha david kim giving terrans the "protoss playstyle" refusing to say deathball
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 13 2012 05:18 GMT
#120
Great interviews they turned out well. David Kim seems like an alright guy.
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