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Sweden890 Posts
On June 18 2012 16:58 INeedSpoons wrote: This game is of Snute, a pro Norwegian Zerg, and arguably the best Norwegian. http://postimage.org/image/7c131wjjr/ GSL the latest up and downs last game with ACE vs some zerg i forgot who, sick long game with a neural to the mothership and the mothership gets feedbacked immediatly i think. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On June 21 2012 15:45 sertas wrote: GSL the latest up and downs last game with ACE vs some zerg i forgot who, sick long game with a neural to the mothership and the mothership gets feedbacked immediatly i think. BboongBboong, Last day of UnD. | ||
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LastWish
2015 Posts
I mean he does not use a lot of political speech and the general feeling from him is very good. Just one thing Dustin, try not to make things too cool, because too much is just too much. Well David Kim is a problem.. I can sense this guy has limited experience and too much power. He needs now to experiment a lot and I feel he is doing it wrong. General ideas for you Blizzard guys: - try not to focus on low level balance - what should be important on lower levels(brodze - diamond) is race play distribution: that means that zerg, protoss and terran should all be played around 30% of all games(random excluded). - brondze/silver/gold/platinum should be at least judged together whatever statistics you take into account, because there are 4 levels of low players and only 2 levels of high play(masters/gm) so It does not sum up accordingly - on high levels(masters/grand masters) balanced should be the important number - However goal should not be 50%:50% ratio in each matchup as we have experience from BW where 55%:45% was a managable balance ratio and still you could find players who would dominate in the unfavored situaltion(Flash, Bisu, Jaedong). - more intuitive units = I look at this unit/I see what he is doing and I understand what it does without unnecessary introduction - the units you give into HOTS lack this attribute and instead thrive on coolness - not every unit should be designed to be used in every matchup: Consider if you have a unit that is designed for TvZ and give it a ability for TvP - you are making a over complex unit that does not have intuitive usage also it is harder to balance because of it. Rather design a new unit for TvP that would fill the required role. This unit I'm refering to is obviosly the new transformer hellion which will in my opinion become a disaster for balancing(also I don't like it pesonally). - I think a single new unit for each race(maybe 2 for zerg) will be just enough. You can put more into campaign I don't care but don't destroy the game by making too many changes - Personal preference: - don't change thors completely, warhound is not such a good idea - swarmhost should be slow but powerful - so to introduce a push dynamic into zerg play - ultralisk burrow stike I don't like(it's just charge with different visuals) - ultralisk should be more of a tanky unit - more armor or reduced damage from high damages? - tempest is a good idea - however to keep it simple I would make it splash ground and air too(the same attack as it has for air) - it would be then another choice of splash damage instead of colossi or high templars; balancing would not be easy though Good luck | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On June 21 2012 20:03 LastWish wrote: General ideas for you Blizzard guys: - try not to focus on low level balance If it's not hurting higher-level balance, I don't see a problem with balancing for lower levels, too. The focus of the balance team is obvioulsy on esports level balance. | ||
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LastWish
2015 Posts
On June 21 2012 22:10 [F_]aths wrote: If it's not hurting higher-level balance, I don't see a problem with balancing for lower levels, too. The focus of the balance team is obvioulsy on esports level balance. Well it's hard to judge whether the balance changes on low levels don't have any impact on high levels. I'd say the high level balance changes(because they need to be more delicate) have lesser impact on low level play than the other way around. | ||
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DarKcS
Australia1237 Posts
The worst part about rocks is it pigeon holes strats in to 2 base timings which is a bad thing. But I'm arguing with thin air here because there aren't many maps left with 3rd besides Tal'Darim and .. who plays that any more, honestly? And why did they nerf neural parasite when it was our best defense against kiting from colssus, tank, thor balls etc then go and add the viper with 2x the range in HOTS to do the same job? I just want to punch my own face in. | ||
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Danger-dog
United States50 Posts
when you add A-move units to the game, you encourage strategies that involve action-intensive macro and multi-pronged attacks. On their own, these two playstyles might not be effective because they increase the likelihood that a player won't be looking at the right units when the critical moment in the fight occurs. With A-move friendly units, your units are gonna deal pretty much the same amout of damage whether you're looking or not, meaning that the player can only prevail by macroing, composing, and positioning more skillyfully than his opponent—reading his opponent's intentions in the long term rather than in the short term. This doesn't mean mutas and hellions are obsolete now—as always, these units have the potential to be much more cost-effective than A-move units if they are used properly. That is, provided we are measuring "cost" as just a gas-mineral-supply cost and not as a time-oppertunity cost as well. | ||
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LastWish
2015 Posts
On June 22 2012 04:11 Danger-dog wrote: I love the way Kim explains this idea; when you add A-move units to the game, you encourage strategies that involve action-intensive macro and multi-pronged attacks. On their own, these two playstyles might not be effective because they increase the likelihood that a player won't be looking at the right units when the critical moment in the fight occurs. With A-move friendly units, your units are gonna deal pretty much the same amout of damage whether you're looking or not, meaning that the player can only prevail by macroing, composing, and positioning more skillyfully than his opponent—reading his opponent's intentions in the long term rather than in the short term. This doesn't mean mutas and hellions are obsolete now—as always, these units have the potential to be much more cost-effective than A-move units if they are used properly. That is, provided we are measuring "cost" as just a gas-mineral-supply cost and not as a time-oppertunity cost as well. Is this some kind of bot response because I can't see where this response is going... | ||
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Roarer
Hong Kong124 Posts
On June 22 2012 08:47 LastWish wrote: Is this some kind of bot response because I can't see where this response is going... I think what he means is a player who can multitask well but not micro can go toe to toe with a player who can micro well but not multitask. This just put the 2 skill at a more even ground and we can have games which a player outmicro someone's multitasking or he out multitask someone's micro. In his second half, it is more about pure macro vs pure micro, and players who is only good at one of the two can go toe to toe to each other. And the last sentence, I am not sure. In SC2, the value of a win have nothing to do with the game time, so I do not think time cost sohuld come into play in any ways. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On June 24 2012 10:24 Roarer wrote: I think what he means is a player who can multitask well but not micro can go toe to toe with a player who can micro well but not multitask. This just put the 2 skill at a more even ground and we can have games which a player outmicro someone's multitasking or he out multitask someone's micro. In his second half, it is more about pure macro vs pure micro, and players who is only good at one of the two can go toe to toe to each other. And the last sentence, I am not sure. In SC2, the value of a win have nothing to do with the game time, so I do not think time cost sohuld come into play in any ways. Yeah but that view is kinda impractical. No pro has just one skill. And tbh I hate to make a BW reference, but honing any of sort of skill is not as effective as it was in BW. In BW (in comparison to SC2) honing micro, strategy, macro, tactics alone can make a big difference to your game. The top BW players are much more specialised than the top SC2 players and have their own very unique traits. I've seen DRG/MC/MVP/MMA/MKP's games, they do have some special traits (good forcefields/marine splitting/drops/etc), but when compared to top BW players we are looking at a completely different level. Jaedong's mutas are 9x more effective than other players, Boxer's marines never died, 1 of Snows reavers could hold off an entire all in, Stork's strategies have given him a winning record against the top BW players and remain extremely consistent even though hes one of the slowest players, Savior's tactics allowed him to be the first Bonjwa with very low apm also, Flash's macro/mindgames allowed him to A-move any unit to victory, Bisu's multitask allows him to macro/tech really hard while utilising small guerilla forces to its maximum potential. In SC2 you need to be much more all rounded because of these A-move units and weird discrepancies in macro. So if this is really Blizzards goal, then they have kinda missed the mark. | ||
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Sabre
United Kingdom1086 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ROOTKoReYa- didn't know he plays dota2 so much o_O | ||
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
On August 04 2012 11:02 SabreUK wrote: Guys I found David Kim: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ROOTKoReYa- didn't know he plays dota2 so much o_O Fake David Kim LOL | ||
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Sabre
United Kingdom1086 Posts
no, it's real ofc, he lives with his dad in nyc playing dota2. ofc he was picked for blizz balance dont be silly | ||
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Picklebread
808 Posts
On August 04 2012 11:02 SabreUK wrote: Guys I found David Kim: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ROOTKoReYa- didn't know he plays dota2 so much o_O What this is a fake man | ||
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AceDSS
Canada33 Posts
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