EPTMaphacker invited to WCS USA Qualifiers @ MLG - Page 21
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thekhan
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
On June 06 2012 13:19 BronzeKnee wrote: To be completely honest, if I didn't love SC2 so much and knew that by hacking I could get an invite to WCS, I would do it to help clean up E-sports. And I'd show up and act like the biggest troll ever and do Bitbybit SCV all-ins and Gaulzi style cannon rushes. And I'd play random, especially vs Protoss players. Blizzard needs to deal with this crap. This isn't Zack's fault, this is Blizzards fault. Hate the game, not the player. The saddest part is that I predicted this kind of thing happening in the Impa thread... No, hate the cheater, not the game. | ||
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Sylfyre
Australia222 Posts
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GRCJH
Canada76 Posts
Sure, we all want that piss-ant dead. Cheating in a gentleman's game like starcraft is sacrilege. But we don't want to give the game any bad press. Would you really want to read "Starcraft II Cheater Beaten to Death" in your Sunday special? C'mon guys, we're not like that. | ||
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Rebel_
Canada94 Posts
No but seriously they need to replace him. Hurry up Blizzard! | ||
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PatouPower
Canada1119 Posts
On June 06 2012 13:10 legacytyro wrote: I have a teammate competing in WCS, it would be really sad if all the hard work my team mate put in was destroyed because he get's beaten by a hacker. Well, since you can't use hacks at WCS, it would only be fair if he beat your teammate. That's why the only possible ways for presumed hackers to shut down accusations is to show up at lans and do good run. | ||
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terranu1
Romania53 Posts
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Adonminus
Israel543 Posts
I don't understand how is this possible. I know you'd answer it and say that blizzard doesn't care or blizzard is waiting for a lot of hackers to gather up and ban them in waves, I heard all of it already. Funny, but we saw how all other games were also infested with hacks, basically anyone right now could get the latest hack for sc1 or wc3 and log into blizzard's "battle.net" server and will not be banned ever. I think creating a private server for sc2 may be the next step needed to solve the hacking problem that we hear so much nowadays. Even more, it makes me wonder about all those people I play on ladder, I had a weird feeling in the past weeks that beating people was too easy. Maybe because those people abused hacks to get into high master and grandmaster, and against some players like me who do either do very solid all ins where it all comes down to your ability to macro or micro in order to defend it or they do solid macro play which would simply have more units against a weaker player. That doesn't give me a clear idea of how much high master/grandmaster is infested with hackers, I don't think most hackers would get that far since a lot of players at my level have a very solid play against which hacks won't work. You actually need to be low-high master to be able to use hacks to get into that high level in my opinion. If blizzard will keep not reacting, it will be up to the community to stop the hackers, by making antihack programs or private servers. But I don't think that spamming the general thread of "this player" hacks will do much, if we continue this way, sc2 general will turn into sc2 maphackers. | ||
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
Well, since you can't use hacks at WCS, it would only be fair if he beat your teammate. This. It will be a fair playing field at the WCS since you can't use hacks, though its a shame that he probably qualified using hacks. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
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jeeeeohn
United States1343 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:01 GRCJH wrote: It's a big deal because anybody who can take a few honest games off grandmasters (which is probably safe to assume in Zack's case) has a shot at eliminating real, hardworking players out there. Sure, we all want that piss-ant dead. Cheating in a gentleman's game like starcraft is sacrilege. But we don't want to give the game any bad press. Would you really want to read "Starcraft II Cheater Beaten to Death" in your Sunday special? C'mon guys, we're not like that. Uh, I hope no one wants someone dead because of a video game. Also, Starcraft is not a gentleman's game. In no gentleman's game does the word "rape" find any foothold. I'm actually happy for Zack. I truly am. He was chosen to attend and compete in a live event. That in itself is pretty cool. He's a cheater, yeah, but kids aren't going to read that in their fucking history text books a hundred years from now. I don't see the big deal. It's an anomaly. It's not like he can hack AT the tournament anyway. If he's really a gold level player, then he'll be eliminated like one. That's how the game works. To use a basketball phrase: ball don't lie. This knee-jerk reaction of, "hur hur les' get em!" is ridiculous. Let the kid come play, get eliminated, and let's not speak of this again. | ||
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Flipshy
United States83 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:10 Fueled wrote: This. It will be a fair playing field at the WCS since you can't use hacks, though its a shame that he probably qualified using hacks. The point is he shouldnt be there to begin with... Gold to GM in 1 season lololol Flight, Hotel and the 150 the players will receive is huge enough as it is, but the fact that he also denied someone worthy of a spot a chance to play and make a name for themselves and to experience something that could potentially change their life/career, this is a lot more than just a game to many of these players | ||
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:11 Sub40APM wrote: I am surprised Blizzard doesnt care more, I mean sure they got my first 60 but they are still planning to sell me the other two expansions arent they? Has Blizzard made an official post regarding this issue yet? And has anyone sent in this guys replays to Blizzard yet? For a tournament like this I think they'd step up if enough evidence was given. | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On June 06 2012 13:29 BronzeKnee wrote: Guess you guys have never heard this quote: The world is a dangerous place not because of people who do evil, but because of good people who look on and do nothing about it. -- Albert Einstein Evil people exist, pretending that their existence is the problem, is the problem! Instead the problem is not dealing with them correctly or not dealing with them at all. You even admit that as long as there is a market for hacks, people will use them. And thus, the problem isn't the hackers, the problem is when people don't deal with them. Blizzard can't stop people from hacking, but Blizzard can punish them for doing it. And if Blizzard doesn't punish people for it, they are just as guilty as the hackers. We can't change what the hackers will do, but we can change how Blizzard will respond. That is why this isn't Zack's fault, the man is what he is, but Blizzard needs to step up to the plate and lay down the law. That is what Einstein was getting at and it is the only way to deal with the problems in the world. That's a very narrow minded interpretation. You can be upset with police for not catching a murdered, doesn't mean the murdered is not a bad person. Pretending such a thing as "evil" exists is naive in itself. Everyone does what they believe is best for themselves and justifies it as good or fair. No one kills another person thinking to themselves "this is evil and wrong, I am an evil person and I want to spread evil", they explain to themselves that the person deserved it or that their own life or needs are more important. People who hack do so for selfish reasons, but since they hurt others, we cannot accept it. We expect blizzard to do something about it, like we expect police to catch criminals, but neither hackers nor criminals should simply be accepted as if they are doing something reasonable. | ||
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:14 Flipshy wrote: The point is he shouldnt be there to begin with... Gold to GM in 1 season lololol Flight, Hotel and the 150 the players will receive is huge enough as it is, but the fact that he also denied someone worthy of a spot a chance to play and make a name for themselves and to experience something that could potentially change their life/career, this is a lot more than just a game to many of these players Oh I know this and I'm against him attending this event just because of that. He's pretty much getting a free little vacation and getting paid to play Starcraft with the small chance that he will win it all, when he screwed someone else out of a spot thats a legit player. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10347 Posts
You even gave a search link, haha nice did you post this on Bnet as well? let blizz know! they'll see it :D | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On June 06 2012 08:04 iNcontroL wrote: Problem is tickets are booked and I doubt they will act on this... I think it's just important that we make sure he knows he isn't welcome and choose to mock him continuously  PS: He is one of the absolute most BM people on the ladder.. a distant 2nd to hacking sure but hacking AND being a dick about it at the same time? Usually those people know not to show up to a lan.. I think we should verify that stigma. Think EG should give him a wedgie so hard he needs several pillows to sit down at his computer station. | ||
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