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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
June 19 2012 22:08 GMT
#1321
>< Fnatictricky is in GM now. -sigh-
Wonder how many others there will be this season ;~;
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 19 2012 22:59 GMT
#1322
On June 20 2012 07:08 l_Kyo_l wrote:
>< Fnatictricky is in GM now. -sigh-
Wonder how many others there will be this season ;~;

and impa is on a new account already queueing into idra so I suspect he will get GM too.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 16:35:26
June 19 2012 23:11 GMT
#1323
On June 20 2012 07:59 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 07:08 l_Kyo_l wrote:
>< Fnatictricky is in GM now. -sigh-
Wonder how many others there will be this season ;~;

and impa is on a new account already queueing into idra so I suspect he will get GM too.


From this thread the following hackers are confirmed and in GM right now that I can remember from the top of my head

IMNestea
HRGZack
FnaticTricky
NMxJValjean

Also the fraudster NMxBlazinT is currently in GM He pays for GM and then sells coaching to noobs who want to be coached by a GM but don't know he is a gold level player committing fraud. He is probably not being leveled by LgNBlackman this season since suddenly he is Protoss instead of Terran.

I have also heard from people that NpPpSomeNoob is very suspicious when it's not a certain Korean who is smurfing on it.

So at best we have 4 known hackers in GM.
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
June 19 2012 23:12 GMT
#1324
AFAIK Shokz posts VODS on youtube for coaching and sells coaching as well in some bullshit guide. Probably not a cheater. But the 1st 4 you listed are all known maphackers. Fucking every season these guys are in GM...blizzard WTF?
aka SethN
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
June 19 2012 23:13 GMT
#1325
On June 20 2012 07:59 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 07:08 l_Kyo_l wrote:
>< Fnatictricky is in GM now. -sigh-
Wonder how many others there will be this season ;~;

and impa is on a new account already queueing into idra so I suspect he will get GM too.

I seriously hope blizzard can figure out this hacking thing soon. Its going to ruin the ladder and without a private option available the game might just die sooner rather than later
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 19 2012 23:19 GMT
#1326
On June 20 2012 08:13 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 07:59 EtherealDeath wrote:
On June 20 2012 07:08 l_Kyo_l wrote:
>< Fnatictricky is in GM now. -sigh-
Wonder how many others there will be this season ;~;

and impa is on a new account already queueing into idra so I suspect he will get GM too.

I seriously hope blizzard can figure out this hacking thing soon. Its going to ruin the ladder and without a private option available the game might just die sooner rather than later

Not to mention the paranoia when an unknown player suddenly starts doing well, or when someone suddenly improves a lot, especially i they had a relatively constant skill level for a long time. Then you just start wondering and that's no good for them if they are legit and got their improvement through hard practice.
Rainbow Cuddles
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 23:30:51
June 19 2012 23:27 GMT
#1327
LovePrincess is a hacker in GM as well right now. Just played him & he blind proxy 2rax'ed me.

• SC2Ranks.com Profile - http://sc2ranks.com/us/2386524/LovePrincess
• SC2Ranks.com Replays - http://sc2ranks.com/us/2386524/LovePrincess/replays/

SC2Ranks.com & Drop.sc both point to him being known previously as DavidLynch before he was called out in the TL Hacker Database & did a namechange.

If you check the TL Hacker Database, he's been caught hacking in the past.

• Battle.net Forum - http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3581329986
• TL Hacker Database - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252666&currentpage=33
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
June 19 2012 23:30 GMT
#1328
If that happens in GM, imagine how many people hack in Masters and Diamond.

lol :/
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 19 2012 23:39 GMT
#1329
On June 20 2012 08:30 Psychobabas wrote:
If that happens in GM, imagine how many people hack in Masters and Diamond.

lol :/

thread for a popular free mh has over 77k views, so probably a hell of a lot is the answer to your question.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
June 19 2012 23:43 GMT
#1330
On June 20 2012 08:39 EtherealDeath wrote:
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On June 20 2012 08:30 Psychobabas wrote:
If that happens in GM, imagine how many people hack in Masters and Diamond.

lol :/

thread for a popular free mh has over 77k views, so probably a hell of a lot is the answer to your question.


I just saw that thread. OMFG...
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
June 19 2012 23:54 GMT
#1331
On June 20 2012 05:18 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 04:57 Pandain wrote:
On June 20 2012 02:42 EtherealDeath wrote:
One of the guys mentioned here, sctrixy is one of the first gms this season.


HE's a hacker?
He fucking bmed me like 10x in a row.
After 6 pooling, cannon rushing, and then bming me saying how he's better. fuck that dude.

he also goes by LGShowtime

I dunno I just remember seeing him brought up in here. Also wow I'm pretty sure LGShowtime as bm'd me a lot as well.


OH MAN Can't believe he's a maphacker lol. I remember his name popping up back when the TL MH thread was active and I asked him about it in game. He said that he didn't and was really manner until he lost. Then he just flamed me for allining when I was 3 base. Had no clue lmfao, that's pretty funny.

Just got your PM zwei, and I'll pop up my replays to the bnet thread you linked. I see a couple people accusing Shokz of maphacking, I've played him a couple times on ladder and he never really struck me as someone who maphacks. Although it's TvT and he usually plays pretty standard, so aside from army movement and drop defense you really can't tell.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Psych
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
June 20 2012 00:23 GMT
#1332
Here's another replay of FnaticTRiCKY maphacking if more evidence is needed..

http://drop.sc/200703
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hashaki
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway210 Posts
June 20 2012 00:34 GMT
#1333
Reading this thread saddens me. As a longtime casual gamer hackers have ruined many a multiplayer experience from time to time, and SC2 is no exception. Well, it is, not regarding hackers, but more so Blizzards coding and their approach to hackers.

Their warder-system with mass-bans every 2-6 months or however often it is won't cut it. Just like so many gamecompanies have failed creating any kind of anti-cheat software for their games. What comes to mind is VAC. A total and utter failure at any form of preventative hackdetection. However, in a game like CS:Source (the game I'm most familiar with in terms of anti-cheats and has always been riddled with hacks) has a great community which has done some cool things in trying to deal with hackers on their own. For instance, a form of anti wall-hack that's been worked on instead of trying to fully disable wallhacks instead gives out false positives. Instead of trying to explain, here's a video demonstrating it - http://vimeo.com/33123251

I think that is something Blizzard should look into as well as other forms of hack-detections. Imagine a maphacker moving his entire army to defend a base becasue he spots a false armymovement through FOW only to move his army out of position instead. Now that is something that not only will piss hackers off, but it's beating them at their own game.

In my eyes, something worth looking into by Blizzard
Life is like animal porn... It's not for everyone
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
June 20 2012 00:56 GMT
#1334
On June 18 2012 11:25 Drizzt3 wrote:
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On June 18 2012 11:11 charlieso wrote:
I played a guy on the ladder named "JacobTheKing" on NA ladder a couple days ago.. He's a plat protoss. I watched the replay yesterday and saw that he was tracking all my army movements through the fog of war. He didn't scout me once during the entire match. If you watch the replay it's pretty clear..

Watch around the first one or two big engagements (especially the last one).. once my army gets towards the top half of the map he traces it..

I reported him on bnet, but I don't know what good that will do so I figured I'd post this here too.

http://drop.sc/199782


rofl I just watched the rep. this guy is definitely one of the more blatantly obvious maphackers. For those who didn't watch, "JacobTheKing" doesn't leave his base or scout a single unit, let alone the enemy base, yet prepares perfectly for every attack, and constantly toggles his camera over the advancing army of his enemy, which is completely out of his vision. I believe he even dropped a preemptive forcefield on the ramp he should have had no idea his opponent was about to walk up. Despite this massive advantage, dear JacobTheKing loses horribly and seems to suffer from a distinct lack of game understanding. TL;DR this guy doesn't even try to hide the fact that he's maphacking.

'JakobTheKing' also created a TL account and the first thing he asked was (already closed thread): "When will i get promoted": http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=346481

Remembered his odd nick from this thread.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 20 2012 00:57 GMT
#1335
the whole spades discussion leads into this... we could say its all spades fault!

honestly, i feel like i get blindcountered a lot more often than the previous season (low gm mmr), maybe thats just my brain finding excuses for sucking after playing d3 only :D
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 01:37:21
June 20 2012 01:21 GMT
#1336
On June 19 2012 12:00 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 09:25 Psychobabas wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:05 GoodRamen wrote:
On June 19 2012 08:43 Psychobabas wrote:
Blizzard needs to implement an active, real-time antihack. Having ban waves every 3-4 months or so does absolutely nothing apart from leaving seasons full of hacking. Also, people banned for hacking get only 2 days.


that and maybe hackers play in a server with only hackers like what rockstar did with max payne 3 multiplayer


The way I see it, Blizzard needs to step it up a ton in the detection and prevention department. There is no way in hell that Blizzard would ever permban anybody since it may cut to potential profits with the next 2 expansions. No business would do that, especially if the hacker is some random ladder-player. In brood war, iccup and especially regular battle.net hackers got permbanned because the user could just make another account, and the game was already set with the one and only expansion. So the only way of stopping this is from prevention.

My point of view anyway, as I seriously think the only reason Blizzard isnt taking harsh action is the "potential income" argument.


Agreed, I really hope they can manage to do something. Hell, I would be fine with a weekly patch that changed something in the code to make the hacks no longer work. If we can't stop them we might as well make them work their ass off to keep the hacks working.


I'm especially worried. There is no evidence that Blizzard actively and drastically supports antihack in any of their previous games, including the first 2 years of SC2. They always take freaking ages to bring a patch out, meanwhile the ladder is unplayable for someone that cares if he gets hacked, like me. Starcraft and Warcraft moved on to private servers with decent antihack prevention and almost instant banning from dedicated administrators (hello PGTour and Iccup). The ball is entirely in Blizzards hands and we can only wait. But Blizzard is a business and a very greedy business. I'm stating everything based on facts and what we have seen from the past. I just don't see this as their priority, it pains me to say so.

Warden is a piece of trash as evident by this rampant hacking and the banwaves are laughable coming every 2-3 months as far as I know, as are the ban lengths, lasting only a few days. Blizzard would need to drastically change their systems, and I'm not sure if the $$$ would be justified in their corporate world to be drastic enough :/ Again, I will use as evidence the 3+ months that the notorious hack has been released, the 77k + views that it has had, and fuck all has been done about it.

little correction: the hack has been out for over a year, its the latest version that has gone out of control for 1.4.3 for some reason.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 01:23:30
June 20 2012 01:22 GMT
#1337
I was bored so I decided to find out who has posted in that hacker thread on another forum. Here is all of their usernames. Keep in mind that that most likely any half smart person would not use their sc2 username in a hacker forum, but hey, someone might slip up. I'll do some cross checking with other possible sources of info later, here is the entire list though in case anyone is interested and might spot something to followup on. Unique IDs only ofc, so each person only shows up once.

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a8613872
alcohol96
alexkun
anonymdave
anwolf
Aprus
Artek72
ASDFLOL
bahottmo
Baneric
bankofthedank
BarbaricGoose
Beaving
Beehzy
bellaPatricia
bennyy
Berthelj
bingbong575
Blacky372
blazinweed
brain_storm
btown
bushee
bvj94
cdwiser
cheni
chrisbk88
chrise12287
CireG
citronlol
CraniX
Darchrow
DarkMAgiicSC2
davidtop
dcrossland
demon69
DerCheater
Diablo235325
DiGiTaLMeSiA
Dionis
direwolf
disgraceful
djTesla
Dorian59
Drainel
drashpulo
DrManhattan
DrSole
dth
eax
Ehjaxx
emporer
emrebey
epocaliptic
eternal88soul
Evilenigma
EviLMagiic
eXhAwST
eX_PRO
Fading
Failed Again
fan0208
FettoFromDaGhetto
fishfishfish
Fluke132
flyduster90
FPyro
freefood
gasaraki03
gawdlyz
GeneralObvious
genkds
ghostPJ13
gilly
Gingerlisk
Girit
gitx
god_forbids
GoEasyPlsThx
Goodluckhf
Grandslaya
GuerillaGorilla
HackyHaze
haiwei02
halffrozen
halloworld
Hawken
hobobooty
Hujjo
Hydrazine
ian2buckz
IDontDontHack
Idontlikeyou59
Idunnousername
igottapoop
invasion25
jackarcat
jackle1
jaja1212
jerry1996
Jiggie
jordanrracer
jpheonix
Kakaru
kamesenin888
Kaydue
kekiloxx
kenti
Kentronigz
Kerwinius
kilow
knoxville1
kronnos44
KRONOX
kulig99
LgNKami
liptonex
LiskKing
lllloooollll
lmbohax
Lokis123
loli9999
lolimgonnadlhack
lolsterx
loneisahacker
LonelyWolf
longx
LoupBlanc
MaicalGiacsan
marduk12
matt369
Matzegoes1337
maximalista
MAXSKE3MASK
Micheal Zhang
Mr Nukealizer
Mr.Hacker
msantoro51
Mumonn
MyTeeWun
napouser
Neo777
neontigerv2
nikki7111
nofapa
ObviousGuy
OGM
onedirection
OptimusPrime89
Orb
overboostaltima
passive1121
Patosai24
petitpied
pittpeter
PlagueLord
PlamatE
poorboy
Protossop
qoekfrufp
qqeqrqtr
qwertzudwdqdq
Reflexz1
Reichu
reptylen
riceyasian86
rickastley69
RO0t
robby2x
robert broneero
royskopp
royyoo123
RypaczTardow
sand2
scalebane424
ScaryHarry
Sean1352
Secretchipmonk
Senzox
sgtslick
Shaddowz
shandyl
sherm
showtotoro
Shrek1
silkmaster2
SilverBlade12
skules
slnbreak
smiuk
SNSColby
sockbomber
Sonya
superdoc1234
Swordmaster524
syncviper
tdhytj
technowizard
tehdurid
testij
thatoneguywithaids
thclown
The Bamboozler
TheBF3
thedarkarcho0n
TheLastLamer
TheXCodec
thiagoc11
Thomas Broxmeyer
Thy
Tireje
tkoghost
tktqooq
tommy105
Towny.SC
Tracky
triiton22
TsMMaize
Tugget
tyman2007
undeadist
UsoundEASY
Valefor2
vladvladoac
wackaflocka
weed_chilla
whatbean
whitera8
xblackday
xmomox
zerglingqt


Name that immediately stuck out - LgNKami. Is this guy actually on Team Legion?

His post in the thread was quoting another.

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Originally Posted by Girit
Where can Ibuy the private hack?
I don't wanna have to play legit next patch lol .

The legion shall hear about this . TT


Which seems to imply he's been a long time user from when the hack was private, and that others will soon discover the private side of the hack. That is how further posters in the thread interpreted it as well, when the guy he was talking to asked what he meant. LgNKami himself did not reply.

Another name that stood out is Orb. This guy is clearly not the popular Orb. However, following his post history led me to something interesting. He had his account boosted into GM and in fact this same site which is offering hacks is offering GM boosting even into top 16. This may explain why NMxBlazinT is being leveled by a Protoss this season instead of a Terran.

They have sold at least 97 grandmasters accounts in the last year, judging by feedback score, most likely a bit more. So beware, apparently there are actually a lot of fake GM accounts as well. Some unknowns who suddenly rise into GM may actually be account boosted rather than hacking.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 02:19:44
June 20 2012 02:12 GMT
#1338
On June 20 2012 10:22 EtherealDeath wrote:
I was bored so I decided to find out who has posted in that hacker thread on another forum. Here is all of their usernames. Keep in mind that that most likely any half smart person would not use their sc2 username in a hacker forum, but hey, someone might slip up. I'll do some cross checking with other possible sources of info later, here is the entire list though in case anyone is interested and might spot something to followup on. Unique IDs only ofc, so each person only shows up once.

< clip >

Name that immediately stuck out - LgNKami. Is this guy actually on Team Legion?

His post in the thread was quoting another.
Show nested quote +

Originally Posted by Girit
Where can Ibuy the private hack?
I don't wanna have to play legit next patch lol .

he legion shall hear about this . TT



You quoted a user called 'Girit'. I reported a 'Girit' named player regarding 'results disagree hacking' back in January: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272003&currentpage=19#365 His account is still active, but has been renamed to mTGirit.

I wonder if it is the same 'Girit' as in TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=292918

If all these 3 'Girit's are the same person, then it would not be a surprise if you find also other usernames that are active in several sites.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 20 2012 02:19 GMT
#1339
On June 20 2012 11:12 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 10:22 EtherealDeath wrote:
I was bored so I decided to find out who has posted in that hacker thread on another forum. Here is all of their usernames. Keep in mind that that most likely any half smart person would not use their sc2 username in a hacker forum, but hey, someone might slip up. I'll do some cross checking with other possible sources of info later, here is the entire list though in case anyone is interested and might spot something to followup on. Unique IDs only ofc, so each person only shows up once.

< clip >

Name that immediately stuck out - LgNKami. Is this guy actually on Team Legion?

His post in the thread was quoting another.

Originally Posted by Girit
Where can Ibuy the private hack?
I don't wanna have to play legit next patch lol .

he legion shall hear about this . TT



You quoted a user called 'Girit'. I reported a 'Girit' named player regarding 'results disagree hacking' back in January: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272003&currentpage=19#365 His account is still active, but has been renamed to mTGirit.

I wonder if it is the same 'Girit' as in TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=292918 . Hmm. Have to check vod archive of his stream that was mentioned in the blog.

If all these 3 'Girit's are the same person, then it would not be a surprise if you find also other usernames that are active in several sites.

I hope not lol the TL girit says he dropped out of school for Starcraft.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
June 20 2012 02:31 GMT
#1340
On June 18 2012 22:49 Peleus wrote:
superstar - Rank 8 Masters

Blatant map hacker, 3 pylon wall off queued on condemned ridge before even scouting.

Replay - http://drop.sc/199955


I can attest to that as he tried to cannon rush me yesterday. Everything is normal so far, cannon rushes happen often. But then i manage to hold it and start walking towards his base with 10~ marines and he puts down FIVE cannons without any information whatsoever, even before expanding OR getting a gateway (He had a forge and lots of cannons only at this point).

But the nail on the coffing is that i tech up to medievac to circunvent his 5 cannons up the ramp, and when i rally my army + medievacs to a corner of his base (on ohana) to elevator, he pops 4 more cannons there, just out of the blue.

replay:http://drop.sc/200735
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