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jacobtheking
Profile Joined June 2012
1 Post
June 19 2012 23:40 GMT
#1
I am in plat in top 8 my recored is 22 wins and 4 losses. 80% of the time im playing diamond opponets and they are favored dose anybody have an estimate of when i am do to get promoted.
Citherna
Profile Joined October 2011
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 23:42:33
June 19 2012 23:41 GMT
#2
Don't know if this is still accurate, but here's what Blizzard said: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/4389268/Climbing_the_Ladder_How_to_earn_a_League_Promotion-1_31_2012

Check how many points you've got, then compare to the 1v1 chart. :>
fofa2000
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
June 19 2012 23:42 GMT
#3
Please, read TL 10 commandments before posting.
-smells likes tasty soup, what's the menu?-fresh jaedong style marine stew served with a glass of dragoon slush!-The food's any good?Quite unusual names, never heard-all my food's good, the kitchen's this way-btw whatu terarn doing alone in a zerg colony?
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
June 19 2012 23:42 GMT
#4
Please famirialize yourself with the teamliquid community before making threads, and for example you would need more content to create a thread like this. And honestly one could never know because its all about MMR.
:O
SFGIANTS91
Profile Joined October 2011
United States51 Posts
June 19 2012 23:44 GMT
#5
while blizzard has charts saying that at 800 points you should get promoted, i always find that with a good win ratio and about 40 wins you should get promoted. ALSO, if you play a couple games every once in awhile your MMR will not climb like if you sit down and bang out like 20 games. gl!
DUDE! Where's my mothership???
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
June 19 2012 23:46 GMT
#6
if this were a blog I would've given you 5/5 for this beautiful piece you have written.
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
June 19 2012 23:49 GMT
#7
My MMR got reset after not playing for two seasons, and I started playing some random team 2v2 for fun.

I was placed into Diamond and promoted into Masters after 17 games.

I think the points thing might be assuming some average case winrate/MMR gainrate.
tpfkan
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
June 19 2012 23:52 GMT
#8
Can't say, but it will be a little bit longer than the window in which this thread remains open
SupplyBlockedTV
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Belgium313 Posts
June 19 2012 23:53 GMT
#9
Mate i have found that the points given in the blizzard post (see second post) are pretty accurate..just keep playing and you will get there fast, meanwhile enjoy winning :D

PEW PEW PEW
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
June 19 2012 23:54 GMT
#10
On June 20 2012 08:52 Mr Showtime wrote:
Can't say, but it will be a little bit longer than the window in which this thread remains open


Quick, to the Postmobile!

In other news, dat search function is a pretty cool thing I hear, been around on the internet has been around itself even!
In Inca we trust
_MagnuM_
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark136 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 23:56:45
June 19 2012 23:56 GMT
#11
why do you wanna be promoted so badly? whats the point? who cares?... just play the game...

i think you wanna be promoted because you care how other people view your "skill", but if you start caring about that u will slowly get ladder fear which leads to ladder anger which leads to ladder hate which leads to the dark side of the ladder.

play starcraft for yourself, not for others. stop caring about promotions, it isn't too easy untill your winrate is 100%.

i request this thread be closed, please. nothing more to be said.
We don’t stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
June 19 2012 23:57 GMT
#12
In 6 hours and 7 minutes.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 20 2012 00:01 GMT
#13
When you win 4 games in a row, then lose 5 straight and then win 9 in a row, then alternate between losses and wins for exactly 37 games.
Or at a rate that you will hit 800 points at the end of a season.
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korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 00:07:14
June 20 2012 00:03 GMT
#14
Interesting. A maphacker creates a TL account and the first thing he asks is when he will be promoted?

A platinum player in NA ladder called 'JacobTheKing' was already reported in the GM maphackers thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340614&currentpage=65#1282

I quickly checked that replay and indeed that person was maphacking. First clear occurrance happens at 7:18 game-time when he tracks opponents scout through fog of war and then intercepts it. I did not watch that replay further.

Edit: also the web profile of that player has 22 wins that matches the original posters stats: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2675172/1/JacobTheKing/
RedMage
Profile Joined February 2012
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 00:06:08
June 20 2012 00:05 GMT
#15
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273

Promotions work in weird ways, this is a good general guide imo.

By outperforming the rest of your league, it is possible to get promoted into a higher league. If you are in Bronze but playing against Gold players, you would expect to be promoted to Gold, but that doesn't always happen immediately.

This is because the system requires a certain degree of confidence before players can be moved to a new league, otherwise they would bounce around from league to league too frequently for leagues to be meaningful. That confidence is measured in two ways:

First, the player must prove that he is capable of maintaining a certain level of skill. This is done by measuring the moving average of a player's MMR. The below image should help demonstrate. When this moving average stabilizes within the confines of a division tier, a player can be promoted into that league. A player can also be instantly promoted to a league if his moving average exceeds the upper bound of that league.



The second factor is a "confidence buffer" that exists between leagues. That is, if a Bronze player is only slightly better than the lowest-rated Silver players according to his moving average, that is not reason alone to promote him, even though he has crossed into the Silver MMR region. If that player slumped, he would fall right back into Bronze within a couple of games, only to return to Silver a couple of games later, making his promotion far less meaningful. Leagues are sticky, therefore the moving average must cross beyond the destination league's confidence buffer, cementing that player's position within the higher league. In the picture above, the confidence buffer is represented by the yellow glow region.

Note that these are the only two factors required for promotion. Any in-game behaviors or statistics beyond winning, losing, and the opponent's MMR are not relevant to the system.
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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
June 20 2012 00:07 GMT
#16
On June 20 2012 08:57 Depetrify wrote:
In 6 hours and 7 minutes.

I'd listen to this guy.

You're SO CLOSE!
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
June 20 2012 00:09 GMT
#17
Read! READ!
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