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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
June 19 2012 00:04 GMT
#1301
On June 19 2012 07:55 Pokebunny wrote:
FnaticTRiCKY definitely maphacks lol...
proxy 2gates in my base on ladder antiga :D


He was the first player I played this season. Same thing to me. I reported, and told people on my real ID to watch out for him but obviously he's still around. Quite sad.
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GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
June 19 2012 00:05 GMT
#1302
On June 19 2012 08:43 Psychobabas wrote:
Blizzard needs to implement an active, real-time antihack. Having ban waves every 3-4 months or so does absolutely nothing apart from leaving seasons full of hacking. Also, people banned for hacking get only 2 days.


that and maybe hackers play in a server with only hackers like what rockstar did with max payne 3 multiplayer
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 00:19:56
June 19 2012 00:19 GMT
#1303
You: how on earth did you know which spot to proxy o_o
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
FnaticTRiCKY: fuck u
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
You: i was just wondering
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
You: sorry
FnaticTRiCKY: <3
You: though i suppose its obvious you maphack after doing some research :D
FnaticTRiCKY: yea just like its obv that u eat way to much mcdonald


rofl :D
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 19 2012 00:22 GMT
#1304
On June 19 2012 09:19 Pokebunny wrote:
You: how on earth did you know which spot to proxy o_o
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
FnaticTRiCKY: fuck u
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
You: i was just wondering
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
You: sorry
FnaticTRiCKY: <3
You: though i suppose its obvious you maphack after doing some research :D
FnaticTRiCKY: yea just like its obv that u eat way to much mcdonald


rofl :D

You have too much faith in humanity to even ask xD

I like how some ppl are coming up multiple times naturally.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
June 19 2012 00:25 GMT
#1305
On June 19 2012 09:05 GoodRamen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 08:43 Psychobabas wrote:
Blizzard needs to implement an active, real-time antihack. Having ban waves every 3-4 months or so does absolutely nothing apart from leaving seasons full of hacking. Also, people banned for hacking get only 2 days.


that and maybe hackers play in a server with only hackers like what rockstar did with max payne 3 multiplayer


The way I see it, Blizzard needs to step it up a ton in the detection and prevention department. There is no way in hell that Blizzard would ever permban anybody since it may cut to potential profits with the next 2 expansions. No business would do that, especially if the hacker is some random ladder-player. In brood war, iccup and especially regular battle.net hackers got permbanned because the user could just make another account, and the game was already set with the one and only expansion. So the only way of stopping this is from prevention.

My point of view anyway, as I seriously think the only reason Blizzard isnt taking harsh action is the "potential income" argument.
Moosegills
Profile Joined March 2011
United States558 Posts
June 19 2012 01:03 GMT
#1306
On June 19 2012 09:19 Pokebunny wrote:
You: how on earth did you know which spot to proxy o_o
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
FnaticTRiCKY: fuck u
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
You: i was just wondering
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
You: sorry
FnaticTRiCKY: <3
You: though i suppose its obvious you maphack after doing some research :D
FnaticTRiCKY: yea just like its obv that u eat way to much mcdonald


rofl :D


You are so lucky i baited him to bm me and he didn't even bite

a qued up pylon block w/o scouting into a blink all in that i held off with hydra ling

Thats right, i made hydras and won a game while he had blink hack as well. lolololol
#1 HuK fan, zerg player playing for http://www.complexitygaming.com - @coL_Moosegills
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 19 2012 02:48 GMT
#1307
On June 19 2012 10:03 Moosegills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 09:19 Pokebunny wrote:
You: how on earth did you know which spot to proxy o_o
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
FnaticTRiCKY: fuck u
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
You: i was just wondering
FnaticTRiCKY has reconnected.
You: sorry
FnaticTRiCKY: <3
You: though i suppose its obvious you maphack after doing some research :D
FnaticTRiCKY: yea just like its obv that u eat way to much mcdonald


rofl :D


You are so lucky i baited him to bm me and he didn't even bite

a qued up pylon block w/o scouting into a blink all in that i held off with hydra ling

Thats right, i made hydras and won a game while he had blink hack as well. lolololol


And people say Hydras can't do work. They can and They did!
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
June 19 2012 03:00 GMT
#1308
On June 19 2012 09:25 Psychobabas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 09:05 GoodRamen wrote:
On June 19 2012 08:43 Psychobabas wrote:
Blizzard needs to implement an active, real-time antihack. Having ban waves every 3-4 months or so does absolutely nothing apart from leaving seasons full of hacking. Also, people banned for hacking get only 2 days.


that and maybe hackers play in a server with only hackers like what rockstar did with max payne 3 multiplayer


The way I see it, Blizzard needs to step it up a ton in the detection and prevention department. There is no way in hell that Blizzard would ever permban anybody since it may cut to potential profits with the next 2 expansions. No business would do that, especially if the hacker is some random ladder-player. In brood war, iccup and especially regular battle.net hackers got permbanned because the user could just make another account, and the game was already set with the one and only expansion. So the only way of stopping this is from prevention.

My point of view anyway, as I seriously think the only reason Blizzard isnt taking harsh action is the "potential income" argument.


Agreed, I really hope they can manage to do something. Hell, I would be fine with a weekly patch that changed something in the code to make the hacks no longer work. If we can't stop them we might as well make them work their ass off to keep the hacks working.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Gool
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina204 Posts
June 19 2012 03:12 GMT
#1309
On June 19 2012 01:12 VanGooL wrote:
WNxKarin - Masters

Proxy 2 gates CROSS POSITION ANTIGA without scouting, on the ladder. Plus, looks at my base through the fog of war twice in the first 20 seconds.

http://drop.sc/199999


On June 19 2012 08:57 Osteo wrote:
WNxKarin~ last season Masters around 1k+ points

-scouts cross spawn... wait at the natural?? Not even directly scouting my main first.. then scouting my main, a bit fishy..
-Most obvious sign of hacking was.... at 6.40 he puts down 2 cannons and send his zealot back not even having vision that my lings were going to his base....

And this guy is complete trash... he was at 0/0/0 almost the WHOLE entire game.. that lasted 22 mins or so...
It's pretty ridiculous at the amount of hackers there are on ladder currently......

http://drop.sc/200199


Jackpot.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 19 2012 03:12 GMT
#1310
I'm up for investigating the hack creator's home addresses and paying them a visit.

User was warned for this post
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
June 19 2012 03:20 GMT
#1311
On June 19 2012 12:12 Doodsmack wrote:
I'm up for investigating the hack creator's home addresses and paying them a visit.


You cool bro.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 03:43:16
June 19 2012 03:26 GMT
#1312
On June 11 2012 11:40 ZweiGaming wrote:
This maphacker is one of the top 100 GM on NA. His maphacking isn't as obvious as the previous ones posted. His account name is : NMxJValjean
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1226473/1/NMxJValjean/
The youtube video will clarify what is weird weird about the replays:


Please let me know what you think of this one.



Sry to come back to a post this long ago but was just browsing the thread and stumbled upon this.
First i dont want to defend anny maphackers whatsoever but sometimes the evidence presented seems realy weak.

In this particular vid the main evidence was the protoss player trying to build a nexus on a place where used to be creep.
I dont find this situation suspicious at all (at least not this part).
There was an ovie spitting creep at his protoss 2nd expo, protoss went there and killed or chased something.
Now we go ahead 4 minutes later when the protoss is attacking, and he cues up a nexus at the location where earlier creep was spreaded, and this is the supposed tell for maphack but this is not weird at all?
Protoss would know that if he chased an overlord and some units there 4 minutes ago the creep would have been gone by then and he can just cue up the nexus, even though his vision still has the creep.
Are you sure this is a good tell for maphacking?
and if so can you pls explain me why since i realy dont understand this situation and why this is a tell for maphack,

i did watch the vid 2 times where you tried to explain it but your explanation makes no sense.
Protoss can cue up the nexus there, or try to. There is nothing weird with that at all.
If there is still creep, the cue up will fail, if there is no creep, he can simply cue it.
If he knows this or not is irrelevant, he had good reasons though to think that the creep would have been gone by then,

@ below: no that isnt true (as far as i know but will check it right away)
You can check for yourself,
Even if there is creep in your vision, you can still cue something up if the creep is not actually there annymore (though still there in your vision)

.
I asumed you could just cue up the nexus and that it didnt depend on your vision
Ok thx for clearing this up for me then, i never knew this (i dont maphack btw)
Still find this a verry weird mechanic, you should be able to just cue up the nexus without having to return to gain vision, it is verry weird.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 19 2012 03:31 GMT
#1313
On June 19 2012 12:26 Rassy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:40 ZweiGaming wrote:
This maphacker is one of the top 100 GM on NA. His maphacking isn't as obvious as the previous ones posted. His account name is : NMxJValjean
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1226473/1/NMxJValjean/
The youtube video will clarify what is weird weird about the replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Rcbc_mmpk&feature=plcp

Please let me know what you think of this one.



Sry to come back to a post this long ago but was just browsing the thread and stumbled upon this.
First i dont want to defend anny maphackers whatsoever but sometimes the evidence presented seems realy weak.

In this particular vid the main evidence was the protoss player trying to build a nexus on a place where used to be creep.
I dont find this situation suspicious at all (at least not this part).
There was an ovie spitting creep at his protoss 2nd expo, protoss went there and killed or chased something.
Now we go ahead 4 minutes later when the protoss is attacking, and he cues up a nexus at the location where earlier creep was spreaded, and this is the supposed tell for maphack but this is not weird at all?
Protoss would know that if he chased an overlord and some units there 4 minutes ago the creep would have been gone by then and he can just cue up the nexus, even though his vision still has the creep.
Are you sure this is a good tell for maphacking? and if so can you pls explain me why since i realy dont understand this situation.

It's not because the protoss player wouldn't know, it's because in your vision, there is still creep there, regardless of whether you know it would've faded by then or not. If you kill the overlord spreading creep and then leave the area before the creep has fully receded, the game will not let you put a building there without vision, because in your vision there is still creep. If you maphack, there's no creep in your vision, because you can see that area of the map despite not actually having vision of it.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Kitsune14
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada51 Posts
June 19 2012 03:33 GMT
#1314
On June 19 2012 12:26 Rassy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:40 ZweiGaming wrote:
This maphacker is one of the top 100 GM on NA. His maphacking isn't as obvious as the previous ones posted. His account name is : NMxJValjean
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1226473/1/NMxJValjean/
The youtube video will clarify what is weird weird about the replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Rcbc_mmpk&feature=plcp

Please let me know what you think of this one.



Sry to come back to a post this long ago but was just browsing the thread and stumbled upon this.
First i dont want to defend anny maphackers whatsoever but sometimes the evidence presented seems realy weak.

In this particular vid the main evidence was the protoss player trying to build a nexus on a place where used to be creep.
I dont find this situation suspicious at all (at least not this part).
There was an ovie spitting creep at his protoss 2nd expo, protoss went there and killed or chased something.
Now we go ahead 4 minutes later when the protoss is attacking, and he cues up a nexus at the location where earlier creep was spreaded, and this is the supposed tell for maphack but this is not weird at all?
Protoss would know that if he chased an overlord and some units there 4 minutes ago the creep would have been gone by then and he can just cue up the nexus, even though his vision still has the creep.
Are you sure this is a good tell for maphacking? and if so can you pls explain me why since i realy dont understand this situation.


The thing is that you cannot put a Nexus down where there is creep on your map. In order for the creep to disappear from that spot, you need to go check it out again and see that there is no longer creep, THEN you can build your Nexus there. He forgot to check out if the creep was no longer there and he was able to put a Nexus down where there was creep on his current map. Hence, the only possible explanation is that his map was "updated" (without the creep) with a maphack.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
June 19 2012 03:37 GMT
#1315
On June 19 2012 12:31 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 12:26 Rassy wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:40 ZweiGaming wrote:
This maphacker is one of the top 100 GM on NA. His maphacking isn't as obvious as the previous ones posted. His account name is : NMxJValjean
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1226473/1/NMxJValjean/
The youtube video will clarify what is weird weird about the replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Rcbc_mmpk&feature=plcp

Please let me know what you think of this one.



Sry to come back to a post this long ago but was just browsing the thread and stumbled upon this.
First i dont want to defend anny maphackers whatsoever but sometimes the evidence presented seems realy weak.

In this particular vid the main evidence was the protoss player trying to build a nexus on a place where used to be creep.
I dont find this situation suspicious at all (at least not this part).
There was an ovie spitting creep at his protoss 2nd expo, protoss went there and killed or chased something.
Now we go ahead 4 minutes later when the protoss is attacking, and he cues up a nexus at the location where earlier creep was spreaded, and this is the supposed tell for maphack but this is not weird at all?
Protoss would know that if he chased an overlord and some units there 4 minutes ago the creep would have been gone by then and he can just cue up the nexus, even though his vision still has the creep.
Are you sure this is a good tell for maphacking? and if so can you pls explain me why since i realy dont understand this situation.

It's not because the protoss player wouldn't know, it's because in your vision, there is still creep there, regardless of whether you know it would've faded by then or not. If you kill the overlord spreading creep and then leave the area before the creep has fully receded, the game will not let you put a building there without vision, because in your vision there is still creep. If you maphack, there's no creep in your vision, because you can see that area of the map despite not actually having vision of it.


Yeah we dealt with this many pages ago.

Ill break it down super simply:

-- Can't build stuff on creep

-- If you have vision of creep you try to put a building on it, the game says "cannot place there" its a red hologram and your probe won't even try to walk over and put the nexus or whatever it is down.

-- hacker sees no creep in his vision

-- regular person sees creep

-- hacker can queue the hologram so its clear blue and the probe will walk over because the probe just like hacker knows there is no creep there.

-- regular person sees creep, and the probe thinks its all goopy and doesnt want to step on it so its a red hologram and you need to move probe before queuing the building.

I think thats the simplest way to put it out there.

I wonder what happened to the guy who said he found a high GM euro hacker? Did he ever PM Zwei?
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
June 19 2012 03:48 GMT
#1316
On June 19 2012 12:37 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 12:31 Pokebunny wrote:
On June 19 2012 12:26 Rassy wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:40 ZweiGaming wrote:
This maphacker is one of the top 100 GM on NA. His maphacking isn't as obvious as the previous ones posted. His account name is : NMxJValjean
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1226473/1/NMxJValjean/
The youtube video will clarify what is weird weird about the replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Rcbc_mmpk&feature=plcp

Please let me know what you think of this one.



Sry to come back to a post this long ago but was just browsing the thread and stumbled upon this.
First i dont want to defend anny maphackers whatsoever but sometimes the evidence presented seems realy weak.

In this particular vid the main evidence was the protoss player trying to build a nexus on a place where used to be creep.
I dont find this situation suspicious at all (at least not this part).
There was an ovie spitting creep at his protoss 2nd expo, protoss went there and killed or chased something.
Now we go ahead 4 minutes later when the protoss is attacking, and he cues up a nexus at the location where earlier creep was spreaded, and this is the supposed tell for maphack but this is not weird at all?
Protoss would know that if he chased an overlord and some units there 4 minutes ago the creep would have been gone by then and he can just cue up the nexus, even though his vision still has the creep.
Are you sure this is a good tell for maphacking? and if so can you pls explain me why since i realy dont understand this situation.

It's not because the protoss player wouldn't know, it's because in your vision, there is still creep there, regardless of whether you know it would've faded by then or not. If you kill the overlord spreading creep and then leave the area before the creep has fully receded, the game will not let you put a building there without vision, because in your vision there is still creep. If you maphack, there's no creep in your vision, because you can see that area of the map despite not actually having vision of it.


Yeah we dealt with this many pages ago.

Ill break it down super simply:

-- Can't build stuff on creep

-- If you have vision of creep you try to put a building on it, the game says "cannot place there" its a red hologram and your probe won't even try to walk over and put the nexus or whatever it is down.

-- hacker sees no creep in his vision

-- regular person sees creep

-- hacker can queue the hologram so its clear blue and the probe will walk over because the probe just like hacker knows there is no creep there.

-- regular person sees creep, and the probe thinks its all goopy and doesnt want to step on it so its a red hologram and you need to move probe before queuing the building.

I think thats the simplest way to put it out there.

I wonder what happened to the guy who said he found a high GM euro hacker? Did he ever PM Zwei?


He never did PM as far as I can remember (didn't keep all the PM's), or atleast no conclusive proof came out of it or else I would have updated it in here. I have a few names to add to the main page, I've just been really busy lately. No worry, i'm still keeping an eye in here and watching replays being sent.
frontline-
Profile Joined March 2012
Bulgaria281 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 16:25:37
June 19 2012 16:11 GMT
#1317
Played a blatant hacker in the ladder. Got so pissed that I would have probably smacked the shit out of him irl.

Nickname: Brit=| (dunno how you do this thingy where the line croses it in the middle) ... anyway his nick is Brit=ZbT ,
Terran , Rank 5 in Masters


Replay:
http://uploading.com/files/amdaea1d/Cloud+Kingdom+LE+%2816%29.SC2Replay/

No scouting at all and I am playing random

He trys to hit my overlord with his first marine without ever seeing it

Prepares for my roach/bling/ling attack without knowing anything. No scans or any scouting at all in the game. Yet he sieges his tank in the high ground and builds two bunkers with a line of depos infront
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 19 2012 17:42 GMT
#1318
One of the guys mentioned here, sctrixy is one of the first gms this season.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 19:57:38
June 19 2012 19:57 GMT
#1319
On June 20 2012 02:42 EtherealDeath wrote:
One of the guys mentioned here, sctrixy is one of the first gms this season.


HE's a hacker?
He fucking bmed me like 10x in a row.
After 6 pooling, cannon rushing, and then bming me saying how he's better. fuck that dude.

he also goes by LGShowtime
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 19 2012 20:18 GMT
#1320
On June 20 2012 04:57 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 02:42 EtherealDeath wrote:
One of the guys mentioned here, sctrixy is one of the first gms this season.


HE's a hacker?
He fucking bmed me like 10x in a row.
After 6 pooling, cannon rushing, and then bming me saying how he's better. fuck that dude.

he also goes by LGShowtime

I dunno I just remember seeing him brought up in here. Also wow I'm pretty sure LGShowtime as bm'd me a lot as well.
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