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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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SCTerran22
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On June 20 2012 12:21 SCTerran22 wrote: From what i've seen, Hendralisk plays fishy, i've played him before and he's always countered my every build, i have been told by sources who develop the hack that hendralisk is on a list o buyers of this maphack, please clarify on this that type of statement cannot be said lightly All your hendralisk replays and log of where you heard that plz | ||
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noxn
65 Posts
On June 20 2012 12:21 SCTerran22 wrote: From what i've seen, Hendralisk plays fishy, i've played him before and he's always countered my every build, i have been told by sources who develop the hack that hendralisk is on a list o buyers of this maphack, please clarify on this One post hero accusing someone with no proof? Come on. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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SCTerran22
2 Posts
On June 20 2012 12:24 EtherealDeath wrote: that type of statement cannot be said lightly All your hendralisk replays and log of where you heard that plz I have legit proof that he's on the list of buyers. I would not say this without any proof. The developer confirmed it to me himself. I am not saying he is hacking for certain, but it should still be investigated. As for the log, I have to check with the developer if he wants me to reveal his identity. | ||
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coL.hendralisk
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
On June 20 2012 12:24 EtherealDeath wrote: that type of statement cannot be said lightly All your hendralisk replays and log of where you heard that plz 1) I save all my replays from ladder/tournaments/leagues/lans, so I have nothing to hide 2) Whats your AKA? I want to know the name of the nub I beat who is butthurt about losing (Is that you LGShowtime.. you accused my teammate MaSa buying maphack too.. post the replays maybe?) 3) I don't know the name of any sc2 hacking site, the name of maphack makers or the name of maphack itself Edit: On June 20 2012 12:33 SCTerran22 wrote: I have legit proof that he's on the list of buyers. I would not say this without any proof. The developer confirmed it to me himself. I am not saying he is hacking for certain, but it should still be investigated. As for the log, I have to check with the developer if he wants me to reveal his identity. So you have "legit proof", what's holding you back from posting this? I'm waiting | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On June 20 2012 10:22 EtherealDeath wrote: I was bored so I decided to find out who has posted in that hacker thread on another forum. Here is all of their usernames. Keep in mind that that most likely any half smart person would not use their sc2 username in a hacker forum, but hey, someone might slip up. I'll do some cross checking with other possible sources of info later, here is the entire list though in case anyone is interested and might spot something to followup on. Unique IDs only ofc, so each person only shows up once. + Show Spoiler + a8613872 alcohol96 alexkun anonymdave anwolf Aprus Artek72 ASDFLOL bahottmo Baneric bankofthedank BarbaricGoose Beaving Beehzy bellaPatricia bennyy Berthelj bingbong575 Blacky372 blazinweed brain_storm btown bushee bvj94 cdwiser cheni chrisbk88 chrise12287 CireG citronlol CraniX Darchrow DarkMAgiicSC2 davidtop dcrossland demon69 DerCheater Diablo235325 DiGiTaLMeSiA Dionis direwolf disgraceful djTesla Dorian59 Drainel drashpulo DrManhattan DrSole dth eax Ehjaxx emporer emrebey epocaliptic eternal88soul Evilenigma EviLMagiic eXhAwST eX_PRO Fading Failed Again fan0208 FettoFromDaGhetto fishfishfish Fluke132 flyduster90 FPyro freefood gasaraki03 gawdlyz GeneralObvious genkds ghostPJ13 gilly Gingerlisk Girit gitx god_forbids GoEasyPlsThx Goodluckhf Grandslaya GuerillaGorilla HackyHaze haiwei02 halffrozen halloworld Hawken hobobooty Hujjo Hydrazine ian2buckz IDontDontHack Idontlikeyou59 Idunnousername igottapoop invasion25 jackarcat jackle1 jaja1212 jerry1996 Jiggie jordanrracer jpheonix Kakaru kamesenin888 Kaydue kekiloxx kenti Kentronigz Kerwinius kilow knoxville1 kronnos44 KRONOX kulig99 LgNKami liptonex LiskKing lllloooollll lmbohax Lokis123 loli9999 lolimgonnadlhack lolsterx loneisahacker LonelyWolf longx LoupBlanc MaicalGiacsan marduk12 matt369 Matzegoes1337 maximalista MAXSKE3MASK Micheal Zhang Mr Nukealizer Mr.Hacker msantoro51 Mumonn MyTeeWun napouser Neo777 neontigerv2 nikki7111 nofapa ObviousGuy OGM onedirection OptimusPrime89 Orb overboostaltima passive1121 Patosai24 petitpied pittpeter PlagueLord PlamatE poorboy Protossop qoekfrufp qqeqrqtr qwertzudwdqdq Reflexz1 Reichu reptylen riceyasian86 rickastley69 RO0t robby2x robert broneero royskopp royyoo123 RypaczTardow sand2 scalebane424 ScaryHarry Sean1352 Secretchipmonk Senzox sgtslick Shaddowz shandyl sherm showtotoro Shrek1 silkmaster2 SilverBlade12 skules slnbreak smiuk SNSColby sockbomber Sonya superdoc1234 Swordmaster524 syncviper tdhytj technowizard tehdurid testij thatoneguywithaids thclown The Bamboozler TheBF3 thedarkarcho0n TheLastLamer TheXCodec thiagoc11 Thomas Broxmeyer Thy Tireje tkoghost tktqooq tommy105 Towny.SC Tracky triiton22 TsMMaize Tugget tyman2007 undeadist UsoundEASY Valefor2 vladvladoac wackaflocka weed_chilla whatbean whitera8 xblackday xmomox zerglingqt Name that immediately stuck out - LgNKami. Is this guy actually on Team Legion? His post in the thread was quoting another. Which seems to imply he's been a long time user from when the hack was private, and that others will soon discover the private side of the hack. That is how further posters in the thread interpreted it as well, when the guy he was talking to asked what he meant. LgNKami himself did not reply. Another name that stood out is Orb. This guy is clearly not the popular Orb. However, following his post history led me to something interesting. He had his account boosted into GM and in fact this same site which is offering hacks is offering GM boosting even into top 16. This may explain why NMxBlazinT is being leveled by a Protoss this season instead of a Terran. They have sold at least 97 grandmasters accounts in the last year, judging by feedback score, most likely a bit more. So beware, apparently there are actually a lot of fake GM accounts as well. Some unknowns who suddenly rise into GM may actually be account boosted rather than hacking. Another name that kinda stands out on that list is DJTesla. I believe she was pretty popular at one point in SC2. Not saying thats her or not, but weird to see her ID on that list. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On June 20 2012 12:33 SCTerran22 wrote: I have legit proof that he's on the list of buyers. I would not say this without any proof. The developer confirmed it to me himself. I am not saying he is hacking for certain, but it should still be investigated. As for the log, I have to check with the developer if he wants me to reveal his identity. stop pussyfooting and just black out any reference to his identity while you await confirmation. That way his identity won't be leaked unless he wants it to be. Although I really do doubt you. | ||
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TimmiHendralix
1 Post
Edit: I would not say this if i did not have irrefutable evidence. From the gerbil breeder himself. | ||
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Bobo_XIII
United States429 Posts
On May 28 2012 22:52 Silvertine wrote: I'm interested if anyone else has had games against Lucifer in which it seems that he hacks. I've played him many times and he's one of those players who's game sense appears to be 100x better than his other unimpressive skills. His play was very suspicious in a few of the games. On June 04 2012 10:58 wonkman wrote: Got another one for Lucifer on NA ladder Big things to note - Never scans / only scans twice entire game for 2 observers - Comes in with banshees at just the right place everytime - 11:18 is the big one/ at my main -Follows my army without scanning @ the last battle http://drop.sc/191187 On June 04 2012 18:53 NsPGom wrote: http://drop.sc/191292 Lucifer is maphack he no search On June 08 2012 04:41 Bonkerz wrote: Yoyo I found Lucifer! He changed his name to new chelsea, just watch this game he never scouts and scans right on top of my army over and over again. http://drop.sc/193316 he was 1.2k masters. but had same last season as lucifer did. Here is another replay to scrutinize. I uploaded it simply because of the attraction he's garnered in some other replies in this thread, but I'll let you guys decide. Here are my notes on this game: 6:43 Heads to corner right when creep tumor starts to deny it (literally as soon as the tumor starts) 7:18 Dashes in to kill tumor when it starts again (once again, literally as soon as the tumor morphs) 8:35 Doesn't have vision of towers (absolute map awareness at avenues of traffic), with only 2 marines and 2 marauders at his base. Right when my overlord is about to fly into his base to scout, he sends his only two marines to wait for it. Once he kills it (9:09), he sends marines back to his forward bunker. 12:30 Has walled supply depots lowered for much of the game, only raises them when my lings poke close to his natural entrance. Other thoughts... he scans twice on my army perfectly. Also, I wonder why he didn't get starports earlier to preemptively defend my brood lords. Either he is worse than I am at this game even with hacks, or the previous notes I wrote about him were entirely coincidence. | ||
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Bellazuk
Canada146 Posts
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StarcraftWonders
United States59 Posts
On June 20 2012 12:21 SCTerran22 wrote: From what i've seen, Hendralisk plays fishy, i've played him before and he's always countered my every build, i have been told by sources who develop the hack that hendralisk is on a list o buyers of this maphack, please clarify on this wanna see something weird? Ask for his past 15 zvz games :D You're welcome | ||
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coL.hendralisk
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
On June 20 2012 16:38 StarcraftWonders wrote: wanna see something weird? Ask for his past 15 zvz games :D You're welcome Hm I'm glad I checked this thread before going to sleep. Here you are troll #2, pick any one of these. I'm assuming you want to analyze..? http://imgur.com/is1g4 It's funny because I basically only do 1 thing on ladder for zvz o__O | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On June 20 2012 16:45 HenryZ wrote: Hm I'm glad I checked this thread before going to sleep. Here you are troll #2, pick any one of these. I'm assuming you want to analyze..? http://imgur.com/is1g4 It's funny because I basically only do 1 thing on ladder for zvz o__O This is true, pretty much does one build zvz unless he feels like being a cheeser, but that's like 5% of the time and can't possibly be reactive. | ||
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LaGTTJack
United States69 Posts
looks into my fog about 50 times throughout the game and adjusts his army to counter mine even when it's in fog and looks on top of it multiple times before he can see it with normal vision http://drop.sc/200996 | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
On June 20 2012 23:14 EtherealDeath wrote: This is true, pretty much does one build zvz unless he feels like being a cheeser, but that's like 5% of the time and can't possibly be reactive. Nobody can drag his name through the mud without good proof and their isn't any. I like that this thread is more than witchhunts, its a real place with real analysis and real decisions. | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
Name: exMooR http://drop.sc/201040 Never scouted anything. Looking through fog of war. This is in a freaking custom game. | ||
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Monochromatic
United States997 Posts
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TheFlock
United States389 Posts
On June 21 2012 02:39 Monochromatic wrote: Someone should download the latest hacking software so we can go and know for certain what a hacker looks like and what he sees. That way we can find much more conclusive evidence. If you want an example, In the beginning of this thread there is a video of impa hacking while he streamed. It shows you what his map vision looks like and how he can see the production and supply/minerals/gas for both players. Were you looking for something else? Edit: NVM, can't find that video anymore, maybe it was taken down. Hmmm it was a good video showing how the MH works. I agree that it could be a good idea to have someone who downloaded the hacks to make videos of how they actually work and what it looks like, in order to inform others and make hackers easier to spot. Have considered doing it myself but I only have one account that I don't want anything bad to happen to. Plus I don't think any of these high level players would do it because just by having the hack it may put suspicion on them using it for laddering too. For what we can see in replays and on Impa's stream, we have a pretty good idea of how to spot them, the hard part is figuring out how to get them to leave and stop fucking up the highest levels of the ladder. Also, I know this is based on the American server, but I've always wondered about the Korean server too. If it is as easy as it seems to get the hacks, could the Korean server be infested as well? Or does needing to use an social security number to play in korea have anything to do with it? | ||
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Seohce
United Kingdom394 Posts
I would like to get a second opinion on whether or not this player is map hacking. I have never played against a map hacker before (to my knowledge) but after a game today I thought it was so suspicious that I would look over the replay, especially considering how prevalent map hacking seems right now on the ladder (just from looking over this thread). Here is a link to the replay: http://drop.sc/201056 It is a PvZ with me playing as the Protoss. He starts off with a 6 pool, which is not in any way suspicious. I defend it and decide to go for a 4 gate counter attack. Note he has no vision of my natural. If you watch the play through he looks at my base through the FOW several times. After I cancel the pylon walling my natural in he looks at it. A couple of minutes or so later he looks back at my core and gateways (through the FOW). I then send a probe out onto the map to get up a proxy pylon. From his POV he sends lings directly after it (to the bottom right) and catches it perfectly. All that without seeing it or knowing a probe was even out on the map. He at first sends them to the watch tower, but then after my probe to the bottom right seemingly using the minimap! I confronted him after watching the replay, and he neither comfirmed or denied he was map hacking. He just said "we're not in wc3 bro" and then going unresponsive. Looking at his account it looks like he could be being boosted up into masters. Right now he is high diamond, but his win ratio (at least in the last few games) doesn't seem too good if he is map hacking. Cheers, Seohce | ||
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