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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
June 05 2012 16:49 GMT
#1021
On June 05 2012 18:44 algorithm0r wrote:
This thread is fueling a frenzy. I request it is closed. Spades has already suffered.

Maphacking is hardly a crime. Sure we don't like it. We could argue (though we'd be wrong) that maphacking ruins the "integrity" of our game. Even so ruining the career/reputation of a gamer is orders of magnitude worse than maphacking and TL has done that already to several pro gamers.

Please close this thread.


This thread isn't about Spades, so your post doesn't belong here. On a side note, I have a clear opinion on Spades and it won't be long before light is brought over his case, though this won't be my doing.
BeeNu
Profile Joined June 2011
615 Posts
June 05 2012 16:51 GMT
#1022
On June 06 2012 01:40 SmexMyPocky wrote:

What the fuck. Reporting doesn't do anything? Venasaur is still not banned. lol..


Yeah I've reported him a few times but he's still on like every day.
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
June 05 2012 16:52 GMT
#1023
On June 06 2012 01:40 SmexMyPocky wrote:

What the fuck. Reporting doesn't do anything? Venasaur is still not banned. lol..


Reporting DO work. The thing is that Blizzard tend to ban in waves, for several reasons. They had to act fast with Impa as he had gained a lot of visibility from the community and was also high into grand masters. Venusaur, being only a top masters, doesn't require immediate attention from Blizz I believe. Let's see if at the next patch, his account still remains.
SmexMyPocky
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada31 Posts
June 05 2012 16:54 GMT
#1024
On June 06 2012 01:52 ZweiGaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 01:40 SmexMyPocky wrote:

What the fuck. Reporting doesn't do anything? Venasaur is still not banned. lol..


Reporting DO work. The thing is that Blizzard tend to ban in waves, for several reasons. They had to act fast with Impa as he had gained a lot of visibility from the community and was also high into grand masters. Venusaur, being only a top masters, doesn't require immediate attention from Blizz I believe. Let's see if at the next patch, his account still remains.


I don't find that fair at all because I ran into him on ladder recently, and I find it incredibly frustrating to deal with hackers, especially since some of us want to become pro some day. aha.
wuddup gee.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 16:59:18
June 05 2012 16:56 GMT
#1025
On June 06 2012 01:52 ZweiGaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 01:40 SmexMyPocky wrote:

What the fuck. Reporting doesn't do anything? Venasaur is still not banned. lol..


Reporting DO work. The thing is that Blizzard tend to ban in waves, for several reasons. They had to act fast with Impa as he had gained a lot of visibility from the community and was also high into grand masters. Venusaur, being only a top masters, doesn't require immediate attention from Blizz I believe. Let's see if at the next patch, his account still remains.


In the North American WCS thread there is discussion that, apparently a known hacker is one of those players getting a paid flight out to MLG Anaheim! Someone called Zack got an invite through ladder qualification!

Blizzard are not being swift enough to act.
gfever
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States180 Posts
June 06 2012 00:22 GMT
#1026
http://drop.sc/192374

Fegis by watching the replay he doesn't scout at all and looks at my base my scouting units once in a while. Very obvious. He even attacks my army halfway across the map without having any way of knowing I was there. Also picking off my viking in the exact time I land it at his 3rd. Very obvious maphacker didn't even try to hide it.
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ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
June 06 2012 01:27 GMT
#1027
On June 06 2012 01:56 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 01:52 ZweiGaming wrote:
On June 06 2012 01:40 SmexMyPocky wrote:

What the fuck. Reporting doesn't do anything? Venasaur is still not banned. lol..


Reporting DO work. The thing is that Blizzard tend to ban in waves, for several reasons. They had to act fast with Impa as he had gained a lot of visibility from the community and was also high into grand masters. Venusaur, being only a top masters, doesn't require immediate attention from Blizz I believe. Let's see if at the next patch, his account still remains.


In the North American WCS thread there is discussion that, apparently a known hacker is one of those players getting a paid flight out to MLG Anaheim! Someone called Zack got an invite through ladder qualification!

Blizzard are not being swift enough to act.


Yes i've heard of him before that thread appeared on TL, i'll be looking into his replays as well
Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
June 06 2012 02:06 GMT
#1028
Lucifer changed his handle to NewChelsea
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
June 06 2012 05:46 GMT
#1029
On June 05 2012 14:37 Darthsanta13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 07:00 ch1ppr wrote:
husky just uploaded this



I can't figure out what is more impressive to me, Grubby's play, or how manner he was.


Seeing how sick Grubby's micro is I'd really want to see how HerO would handle the most micro intensive part of that match. (Not discrediting Grubby or his micro at all but honestly HerO can go gosu mode and just micro and multitask like an unstoppable monster)

And to add to the manner just because Grubby always manner to everyone (if he runs into Kas or Stephano on ladder they'll have some friendly trolling that looks like BM but its just messing around) He's like the EU version of Sheth along with White-ra/Thorzain.

But watching that stream we pretty much shouted in chat he was a known mh'er and even though it looked kind of close at some points Grubby just destroyed him with micro and some pretty good decision making as well.

Just goes to show mh'ers pretty much have bronze level mechanics, epm (openly admitting to being bronze but watching replays they match my terrible 60-70 epm every game) and need to use hacks to even have a chance against GM let alone a silver player that could probably beat them in a fair game.
vsportsguy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States118 Posts
June 06 2012 06:25 GMT
#1030
On June 06 2012 09:22 gfever wrote:
http://drop.sc/192374

Fegis by watching the replay he doesn't scout at all and looks at my base my scouting units once in a while. Very obvious. He even attacks my army halfway across the map without having any way of knowing I was there. Also picking off my viking in the exact time I land it at his 3rd. Very obvious maphacker didn't even try to hide it.

I played him as well today. He is an obvious hacker. He proxy 2 rax'd me on antiga without scouting (he hid his rax's at my 3rd without knowing my spawn location), he was looking into the fog of war at my base constantly (again didn't even know my spawn location), and then he called me a hacker when I beat him. I honestly think he WANTS to be caught hacking for the troll/publicity. I talked to the next 3 players that he played on ladder after me, and two of them thought he hacking as well. If anybody wants the replay you can pm me.
hellokittySC2
Profile Joined September 2009
United States395 Posts
June 06 2012 06:45 GMT
#1031
http://drop.sc/192453
possibly another map hacker?
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Chilling5pr33
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany518 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 08:48:23
June 06 2012 08:47 GMT
#1032
Isnt it pretty BM from blizzard to get all the map-hackers into bronce.
I mean for all those poor bronce league players.
Ofcourse usually they will stop playing but what if they are not.
Its like someone in high level boxing, fights with a knive, so instead of taking the knive (wich isnt possible in this case) they are just matched against someone whos really bad at boxing.

Well i know no one cares about bronce but comeone...
F-
Rictusz
Profile Joined September 2011
Latvia31 Posts
June 06 2012 08:54 GMT
#1033
On June 06 2012 17:47 Chilling5pr33 wrote:
Isnt it pretty BM from blizzard to get all the map-hackers into bronce.
I mean for all those poor bronce league players.
Ofcourse usually they will stop playing but what if they are not.
Its like someone in high level boxing, fights with a knive, so instead of taking the knive (wich isnt possible in this case) they are just matched against someone whos really bad at boxing.

Well i know no one cares about bronce but comeone...

It is just their policy. They will almost never permanently ban someone for violating the rules for the first time , so there has to be a rough alternate way to punish the hackers , which is temporary ban and demote to bronze , if they get caught the second time however they will get perm banned.
;o
SFGIANTS91
Profile Joined October 2011
United States51 Posts
June 06 2012 09:44 GMT
#1034
I know this probably wont do anything but Naugrim on the EU server is a map hacker. He obviously changed the direction of his ovie right after the placement of a proxy rax, this was on the twitch stream of ogsforgg. i asked him for the replay so that i could post it here, but whether it being the language barrier or dgaf he didnt. so just thought id throw it out there, despicable.

User was warned for this post
DUDE! Where's my mothership???
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 06 2012 10:06 GMT
#1035
On June 06 2012 18:44 SFGIANTS91 wrote:
I know this probably wont do anything but Naugrim on the EU server is a map hacker. He obviously changed the direction of his ovie right after the placement of a proxy rax, this was on the twitch stream of ogsforgg. i asked him for the replay so that i could post it here, but whether it being the language barrier or dgaf he didnt. so just thought id throw it out there, despicable.


Not another name I recognize =_=
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
June 06 2012 10:17 GMT
#1036
What? Naugrim isn't a maphacker, he was my teammate and I played against him, he didn't hack.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 06 2012 10:39 GMT
#1037
On June 06 2012 19:17 Adonminus wrote:
What? Naugrim isn't a maphacker, he was my teammate and I played against him, he didn't hack.


Not to mention his post is almost as vague as hearsay, wtih no easily checkable information / replay, even though that is somewhat explained. I wouldn't put any stock in such accusations because they are easy to make and easy to ruin someone's reputation.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
June 06 2012 10:40 GMT
#1038
On June 06 2012 18:44 SFGIANTS91 wrote:
I know this probably wont do anything but Naugrim on the EU server is a map hacker. He obviously changed the direction of his ovie right after the placement of a proxy rax, this was on the twitch stream of ogsforgg. i asked him for the replay so that i could post it here, but whether it being the language barrier or dgaf he didnt. so just thought id throw it out there, despicable.

You probably should not say things like this unless you are certain some1 hacks.

Kinda lame thing to do you know.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
Chilling5pr33
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany518 Posts
June 06 2012 10:44 GMT
#1039
On June 06 2012 18:44 SFGIANTS91 wrote:
I know this probably wont do anything but Naugrim on the EU server is a map hacker. He obviously changed the direction of his ovie right after the placement of a proxy rax, this was on the twitch stream of ogsforgg. i asked him for the replay so that i could post it here, but whether it being the language barrier or dgaf he didnt. so just thought id throw it out there, despicable.


No replay no proof.
Just a movement change of a ovi doesnt proove anything anyway...
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MChrome
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
June 06 2012 13:20 GMT
#1040
On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Hackers will hack. I never understood the major upset on things like this. If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them. I should say I never have hacked a game, but I loved "god mode" in games I've played. I guess what I am saying is don't take this so seriously, unless you are a pro it doesn't matter. (even then tourny results matter not ladder)


So if people want to add a few queens to their side on a chessboard, that's allright and you should just try to beat them normally?

Cheating is NOT allright in multiplayer, as the enjoyment of all parties involved matters, not just of one of the participants. This kind of entitlement is exactly what's wrong in today's multiplayer scene, it's all "MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME".
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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