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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 07 2012 10:27 GMT
#1061
Someone should do a show about this, it would certainly draw allot of viewers.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
ZeratuLsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada426 Posts
June 07 2012 18:19 GMT
#1062
Wasn't sure where else to post this, but I wanted to share and didn't want to create another maphacking thread. While it's far from a GM level game (plat), I recently had a match on the NA server against an opponent I suspect was maphacking. I have included the replay:

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=23741640908798877820&gk=transfer

Highlights:

03:20 - sends two drones to attack my probe without ever having had vision of it.
03:32 - selects two more drones as soon as I drop a pylon behind his natural. Does this before getting vision of my constructing pylon. In fact, he still hasn't even seen my probe at this point.
05:37 - inspects the front of my base, which he has no vision of.
09:25 - another no-vision inspection of the front of my base.
10:24 - blindly repositions his army to the east of his 3rd base, where I have just built a proxy pylon.
11:40 - looks directly at my army at the front of my base, right as I'm moving out.
12:50 - repositions his army based on the angle of my incoming push
12:53 - looks directly at my army on a random spot on the map
14:47 - a-moves his army to where I've just dropped my 3rd nexus

Do you guys think that he was maphacking? If so, what do I do about it? Submit a regular ticket, or is there a special procedure for reporting maphackers?
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
June 07 2012 19:41 GMT
#1063
Yoyo I found Lucifer! He changed his name to new chelsea, just watch this game he never scouts and scans right on top of my army over and over again.


http://drop.sc/193316

he was 1.2k masters. but had same last season as lucifer did.
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
June 07 2012 19:52 GMT
#1064
On June 08 2012 03:19 Hellfury wrote:
Wasn't sure where else to post this, but I wanted to share and didn't want to create another maphacking thread. While it's far from a GM level game (plat), I recently had a match on the NA server against an opponent I suspect was maphacking. I have included the replay:

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=23741640908798877820&gk=transfer

Highlights:

03:20 - sends two drones to attack my probe without ever having had vision of it.
03:32 - selects two more drones as soon as I drop a pylon behind his natural. Does this before getting vision of my constructing pylon. In fact, he still hasn't even seen my probe at this point.
05:37 - inspects the front of my base, which he has no vision of.
09:25 - another no-vision inspection of the front of my base.
10:24 - blindly repositions his army to the east of his 3rd base, where I have just built a proxy pylon.
11:40 - looks directly at my army at the front of my base, right as I'm moving out.
12:50 - repositions his army based on the angle of my incoming push
12:53 - looks directly at my army on a random spot on the map
14:47 - a-moves his army to where I've just dropped my 3rd nexus

Do you guys think that he was maphacking? If so, what do I do about it? Submit a regular ticket, or is there a special procedure for reporting maphackers?


Obviously doesn't need a thread since this guy isn't at a high level, but hacking is hacking. I didn't watch the replay, but if you find it conclusive, send an email with a link to the replay and a description to hacks@blizzard.com
Also, report him with the in-game service.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 07 2012 22:51 GMT
#1065
Hey, just curious, what does it mean if right now someone shows up on the battle.net site as being in gm with a 0-0 record?

Account wipe due to hacking?
Some end of season GM lock bug?
Or something else?
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 01:39:41
June 08 2012 01:34 GMT
#1066
On June 07 2012 12:19 BackTrack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 08:27 Doodsmack wrote:
^This thread isn't for mid masters and below, bud.

keep that attitude to yourself, just because the title is "GM Map Hackers" doesnt mean there are not good examples of maphacking in every league, if he has something to add let him


I will not add mid-masters and lower people, even if they are obvious hackers. The reason i'm not getting into this is because I believe there are thousands of hackers... and I have no time to monitor them nor go through all replays. For those hackers, I suggest you people report them in game and via email at hacks@blizzard.com. For the higher ranked ones, i'll be making youtube videos with imbaasfuts as we collect more evidence of those players and then send the replay pack to blizzard as we did for Impa.

On June 07 2012 13:28 convention wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 12:36 Internet_justice wrote:
On June 07 2012 11:24 celeryman wrote:
On June 07 2012 08:27 Doodsmack wrote:
^This thread isn't for mid masters and below, bud.


Wow. This is the kind of the dumb, elitist bullshit that needs to get stamped out if you want e-sports to grow.

I disagree. There would simply be too many lower level players to police. I feel it is correct to hunt out the cheaters in high masters and GM because these are higher profile players who, as we saw, have a chance to play tournaments for money.

The place it really matters is competitive play. I am middling skill level at SC2 but I can appreciate the distinction in terms of impact on the sport. It is important to root this out, much like steroid use in the Tour de France, because it is the most public and highest prestige area of the sport.

I think it was the OP that made a good comment on that, something along the lines of hackers are generally doing so to get higher up on the ladder. If every high masters/GM player hacker gets caught, then it does deter lower league hackers since they now have a limit on how high up the ladder they can go before they get banned.

However, this should not stop you from emailing blizzard and posting on the blizzard forums (or ever starting a thread to try to collect a bunch of replays of the lower leagues to send the lump-sum on to blizzard).


I see you read a good part of the thread :D Thanks for clearing it up for everyone!

On June 08 2012 07:51 EtherealDeath wrote:
Hey, just curious, what does it mean if right now someone shows up on the battle.net site as being in gm with a 0-0 record?

Account wipe due to hacking?
Some end of season GM lock bug?
Or something else?


1- Went over 180 bonus pool and the next game will get him masters
2- He got his stats wiped (most likely that if he is 0-0)
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
June 08 2012 03:41 GMT
#1067
are you making money off your youtube videos for doing this? rofl
hihihi
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
June 08 2012 03:46 GMT
#1068
Well at the end of the day, blizzard needs to deal with this issue, as far as major tournaments, these guys won't be considered good ever because they can't play at a lan.
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
June 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#1069
On June 08 2012 12:41 askTeivospy wrote:
are you making money off your youtube videos for doing this? rofl


Unfortunatly not
wonkman
Profile Joined March 2008
United States520 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 07:03:07
June 08 2012 07:02 GMT
#1070
Andro high protoss NA server

http://drop.sc/193571

If this is not blatant i don't know what is

He sends first probe directly to my base and builds 2 gateways in base
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 08 2012 07:07 GMT
#1071
On June 08 2012 16:02 wonkman wrote:
Andro high protoss NA server

http://drop.sc/193571

If this is not blatant i don't know what is

He sends first probe directly to my base and builds 2 gateways in base


Could be luck if it's only once. Can you check his match history? I know I've done this a few times after being frustrated, but obviously it missed the spot entirely more often than not.
wonkman
Profile Joined March 2008
United States520 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 07:13:27
June 08 2012 07:11 GMT
#1072
On June 08 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 16:02 wonkman wrote:
Andro high protoss NA server

http://drop.sc/193571

If this is not blatant i don't know what is

He sends first probe directly to my base and builds 2 gateways in base


Could be luck if it's only once. Can you check his match history? I know I've done this a few times after being frustrated, but obviously it missed the spot entirely more often than not.

Im unsure to what you are referring to, i've also looked through his match history 90% of his games are 2 gates/cannon rushes.

unless its vs zerg
CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
Profile Joined June 2012
544 Posts
June 08 2012 07:43 GMT
#1073
Hmm what are we gonna do if they start to use barcode ? ive played a few high masters on eu who im pretty sure maphack but lol IIIIIIIIIIIII.... which is really annoying especially since a few eu pro are starting to use barcodes too(or at least i believe so), so its gonna be harder to distinguish awesome gamesense and hacking until u review the replay and check hotkeys mechanics and whatnot...
awaiting the return of the space cowboy
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 08 2012 09:34 GMT
#1074
On June 08 2012 16:43 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:
Hmm what are we gonna do if they start to use barcode ? ive played a few high masters on eu who im pretty sure maphack but lol IIIIIIIIIIIII.... which is really annoying especially since a few eu pro are starting to use barcodes too(or at least i believe so), so its gonna be harder to distinguish awesome gamesense and hacking until u review the replay and check hotkeys mechanics and whatnot...


Add them to your friend's list (make sure they are the only barcode on it). Then start a game, any game, can be vs ai or whatever, and do /w (insert the barcode name here). It will give you their character code and you can post that with the replay.


On June 08 2012 16:11 wonkman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 16:07 EtherealDeath wrote:
On June 08 2012 16:02 wonkman wrote:
Andro high protoss NA server

http://drop.sc/193571

If this is not blatant i don't know what is

He sends first probe directly to my base and builds 2 gateways in base


Could be luck if it's only once. Can you check his match history? I know I've done this a few times after being frustrated, but obviously it missed the spot entirely more often than not.

Im unsure to what you are referring to, i've also looked through his match history 90% of his games are 2 gates/cannon rushes.

unless its vs zerg


Yea that's what I meant. Probably maphacker then.
ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
June 08 2012 19:08 GMT
#1075
I just played venusaur and he's SO bad. Honestly. if they are all like this I don't even give a shit if they they mh or not cause it's a free win regardless.
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
June 09 2012 00:35 GMT
#1076
On June 08 2012 16:43 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:
Hmm what are we gonna do if they start to use barcode ? ive played a few high masters on eu who im pretty sure maphack but lol IIIIIIIIIIIII.... which is really annoying especially since a few eu pro are starting to use barcodes too(or at least i believe so), so its gonna be harder to distinguish awesome gamesense and hacking until u review the replay and check hotkeys mechanics and whatnot...


Upload the replay, click their name and it links to their b.net account.
Kirbtacular
Profile Joined July 2011
United States64 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 00:39:41
June 09 2012 00:37 GMT
#1077
On June 09 2012 04:08 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
I just played venusaur and he's SO bad. Honestly. if they are all like this I don't even give a shit if they they mh or not cause it's a free win regardless.


Just read the thread, makes the fact that he accused me of maphacking earlier today so much more hilarious
Chakoi
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom81 Posts
June 09 2012 00:54 GMT
#1078
This thread is great to raise awareness of the map hackers
The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires
CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
Profile Joined June 2012
544 Posts
June 09 2012 00:54 GMT
#1079
On June 09 2012 09:35 ZweiGaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 16:43 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:
Hmm what are we gonna do if they start to use barcode ? ive played a few high masters on eu who im pretty sure maphack but lol IIIIIIIIIIIII.... which is really annoying especially since a few eu pro are starting to use barcodes too(or at least i believe so), so its gonna be harder to distinguish awesome gamesense and hacking until u review the replay and check hotkeys mechanics and whatnot...


Upload the replay, click their name and it links to their b.net account.


ok thx now i only have to go through barcodes in my replay files lol... and btw do u only focus on NA or will u do the same for EU ? really great ur doing that btw thx dude, was a bit afraid ppl would start withchunting innocent ppl they dont like but uve managed to keep it clean and "professional" u know what i mean lol
awaiting the return of the space cowboy
haffy
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom430 Posts
June 09 2012 01:02 GMT
#1080
Does anybody know if hacking is more common on NA server? On EU server I haven't noticed anyone, or really ever been too suspicious. On NA, I've had 2 I was sure of, and wasn't sure about another.
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