Confirmed BW Progamers race transition - Page 13

On May 11 2012 12:35 Forikorder wrote:


if this is accurate BW then like everything ive ever heard about BW is false




2-3 years to get back to the same level of skillin SC2 they have in BW, theyll be competitive in SC2 within a year

On May 11 2012 13:06 NotSorry wrote:
Now if only we could get any of them to stream Sc2 or BW

On May 11 2012 13:12 sluggaslamoo wrote:


There is a lot of mis-information about BW.

Also TvP is often 1 Rax FE, Siege Expand, FD (fake double), or 5 marine fact (no addon) expand, then depending on what you scout throw down an ebay, or another fact, and go light pressure off 2 fact with a few vultures (while tanks are defending nat) while getting a 3rd. You sometimes see 3rds off 1 fact but its very greedy, above 2 fact often results in a timing attack unless Terran has scanned Protoss with a lot of gateways.

3 base 2-1 timing attack to get map-control for 4th is usually the main goal. Sometimes you will see Flash get a 3rd, and a proxy 4th at the same time, or slam down 2 more facts and go some crazy timing, that's why hes so deadly. He's brilliant at cheese and late-late game, which gives him huge leverage in terms of mind-games. He's the Tom Dwan of BW.




There are BW re-streams of Hiya or Savior up on the side-panel sometimes. Look up ShowMeTheMSL on youtube.

On May 11 2012 13:40 rauk wrote:


i thought things like 5fac timings were still popular vs fast third... to be fair i zone out pretty hard if it's a non-Z matchup in proleague and the last few tvps i remember seeing in osl weren't really standard lol

On May 11 2012 13:46 NET wrote:
Yes FBH is Protoss! So much win!

Bisu stuck with the right race. The Dark Templar master remains.

On May 11 2012 03:35 Leth0 wrote:
As a self hating zerg I agree with the BW assesment of zerg's weakness =P

On May 11 2012 13:40 rauk wrote:


i thought things like 5fac timings were still popular vs fast third... to be fair i zone out pretty hard if it's a non-Z matchup in proleague and the last few tvps i remember seeing in osl weren't really standard lol

With the advances in PvT throughout 2007 and 2008 the only reliable playstyle came to be that of Flash, who singlehandedly upheld the Terran race with his fast upgrade, mass expand builds. However, by the beginning of 2009, weaknesses were shown in this style, most notably by Bisu who combined early timing attacks with quick third and fourth bases to retain the economical advantage. In order for Terrans to retain their edge in the matchup there needed to be a viable alternative to this that wasn't a timing push, for Protoss players had grown extremely adept at blocking those.

On May 11 2012 13:58 Jisall wrote:


Inca might fight him for that title.

Team 8 Coach Han Sang-Yong states: No players in our team changed races. However, we are still keeping it into a consideration because the Zerg players are having a lot of trouble. ***** This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII.

On May 11 2012 14:35 Advocado wrote:


Well. That wasnt something I was expecting from the mechanically superior BW zergs. I guess their making hydras ^^

On May 11 2012 14:51 dronefarm wrote:


I think it's just that the race doesn't feel very good. I don't know how to really put it into words, but it just doesn't feel like you can really leverage your multitask or superior speed or cool builds because the most profitable way to play is quickly invest in a lategame army and a lot of bases; you kind of just go for BL/infestor and crawl forward. It really is a totally different race in SC2, and I think a lot of the players who enjoyed playing zerg in BW aren't going to enjoy it as much in SC2.

On May 11 2012 03:28 OpTicalRH wrote:


SKT1 coach Park Yong Woon states: Our team has tried playing different races in SCII but since it was very hard to adapt I have asked to keep the original races. All of SKT1 players chose to play the same race as in BW.

On May 11 2012 03:33 Nagano wrote:
Expect HOTS to completely change Zerg's strength, with what vipers and swarm hosts and all the upgrades. These guys should just stick with what they're comfortable with rather than what they perceive now to be imbalance.

On May 11 2012 11:25 Falling wrote:

Well if you were used to muta micro and lurker-ling-dark swarm hopping, hydra storm dodging, and scourge micro, SC2 is going to be a pretty big shock to the system.

On May 11 2012 15:06 Alvalanker wrote:

Blizzard has already said Zerg won't be made any more "powerful" than the other races in HotS.

On May 11 2012 15:07 Incanus wrote:

Well said. The amount of BW ignorance here is impressive. Zerg in BW looks similar to SC2, but in fact the playstyle and feeling is nothing alike.