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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
May 09 2012 18:14 GMT
#121
I really like Wolf's casting overall, he has enough knowledge of the game to provide with in-depth analysis of why a player is doing a certain thing which is something I appreciate being explained as a lowly plat player.
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
May 09 2012 18:24 GMT
#122
Wolf is an ok caster. He knows the game pretty well all though he does criticise players alot if they make mistakes and thats a bit annoying. I like the analyze stuff but I really dont get why casters should critize pro players that are playing on a level that is beyond theirs (especially code s and a), also it gets really repetitive for the viewer IMO...

and corny jokes,laughs etc is annyoing to me, it was a rough period when he was teamed with doa and they made jokes that I dare anyone to laugh at....
Im just a zerg
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 19:04:12
May 09 2012 19:03 GMT
#123
I've been rating him higher than tasteless for quite some time now, soon he may surpass Artosis, he develops quite fast.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
May 09 2012 19:07 GMT
#124
I think Wolf is great. Players make mistakes, it's okay to point them out sometimes as long as its not the focus of your cast *cough*Moletrap*cough*
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
May 09 2012 20:51 GMT
#125
I love Wolf, he's one of my favorite casters. Not to mention I had an amazingly good time enjoying the games when he cast with Artosis. It's obvious he really studies the game and I like that about a caster.
Taengoo ♥
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 20:57:43
May 09 2012 20:57 GMT
#126
On May 10 2012 04:07 Monocle wrote:
I think Wolf is great. Players make mistakes, it's okay to point them out sometimes as long as its not the focus of your cast *cough*Moletrap*cough*

And more importantly pointing out what the mistake is and why and what he could have done instead. As opposed to just saying " well he hasn't been doing that well lately, actually sorta looking kinda scrubby".
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 09 2012 21:02 GMT
#127
Wolf is not only hilarious but knowledgeable.

He KILLED IT when he had to step in for Tasteless when he was sick.

<3 Wolf.
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Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 21:27:11
May 09 2012 21:25 GMT
#128
On May 09 2012 20:51 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
By far his biggest problem is that he acts like a coach when casting. He tends to point out what he perceives as flaws in a player's game plan and then proceeds to give his (often wrong) Master league advice on how Code A progamers ought to play the game. While he is an analytic caster and does a good job of it, I couldn't care less about his opinion on a player's strategy or playstyle. Analyze don't criticize.


This was seven pages ago but I want to piggy off of it, even though I don't actually want to say any of that

Wolf's actual casting reminds me of Artosis if artosis didnt have the amount of knowledge that he had. He makes calls about things being wrong and bad ideas when...they actually aren't. and it's fine to be wrong from time to time, but it stems to me, from just not having the knowledge or information base yet. And I'm not trying to say wolf doesnt know what he's talking about or is one of the casters that just doesnt know his shit, because...he fucking does. But relative to artosis, who has to me a very similar style, it's a point where it works exceptionally well for dan specifically because of that amount of knowledge that wolf doesn't have as much of (relative to dan). I think as more and more time passes it will get better, especially if you take a few extra seconds to piece everything together where you might not be as much right right now.

That said, something wolf and khaldor both do a lot is judging a players actions and decisions and it's almost always negative or a bad idea or i dont know about this. But without explaining why it's a bad idea. Which ties into my first point; if you take the time to look at it more and have the knowledge a lot of the time those "im not sure about this" ideas are actually the correct decision, or even if they are the wrong idea you can communicate that without sounding like you're critiquing the player in a negative way. And that doesnt mean that you have to be naively optimistic either.

Especially because when you then go back and ARE positive about the player or even if you spend a lot of time later saying "o i loved how he did this and this" and try really hard to correct it it just sounds disingenuous, or like you're saying "TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE oh that's acceptable TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE" even if that's not what you're doing at all, which, frankly I dont think either of them intend to do ever. And again again, I think part of it is the delivery, but I dont really know specifically how to suggest "fixing" that. both of those things are definitely better than they used to be though because honestly i just used to not watch code a period. Couldn't stand it. And now both wolf and khaldor in general are good to watch (with a few bumps that everyone has) and I actually enjoy watching them and hearing about them coming to foreign events.

Hopefully that made some semblance of sense and sounded as non-aggressive as I meant it.
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My other bit of feedback. It might just be me. Everyone has vocal ticks and things that are just...Anyway, Wolf has a habit of ending his sentences with "tension", if that's the word? "I don't knowowwwww guyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys" but a lot. it sounds more valley-girl than tense and excited just because of the tone and the way the ending drags. I dont know if you give a shit about that, but I thought Id mention it. I am certainly not one to be able to judge on speaking, because my voice is fucking awful through any medium, but it is a feedback thread.

That's all I got. Keep improving, you're awesome, and it's awesome to see you and khaldor outside of GSL and with other people. <3
theforsakenbro
Profile Joined May 2012
40 Posts
May 09 2012 21:26 GMT
#129
I voted excellent because my opinion is always correct.
meltingmykohchoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
166 Posts
May 09 2012 21:30 GMT
#130
I think wolf and artosis combo is the best combo in GSL. Cant stand khaldor... mute his games sometimes.. Wolf says things that push toward correct ideas but he pushes it too far sometimes and say that something is definately. wrong. He's a good fun critic to watch and the fact that he actually has a lot of knowledge on both players and gameplay. oh yeah... and he doesnt constantly apologize when he solo casts... cough cough KHALDOR cough
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adi_hsd
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania74 Posts
May 09 2012 21:35 GMT
#131
I think Wolf should really immerse himself into the game. Make 12 hours playing sessions every day so he really has a feel for the game.
I find his commentating very fun, but when i watch games commentated by him i have no clue what is going on the map.
GOM doesnt really seem to understand that a large part of their viewers actually want to learn something from the games they watch.
For me id like them to get some good player(Catz would be pure gold for GOM imo) to do the analysis and have Wolf do his thing.
PrAeToR.FeNiX
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada361 Posts
May 09 2012 21:38 GMT
#132
i really like wolf because he understand the game better than most of the other caster because he plays at a decent level. him + artosis are so fucking good together because I can learn from them sometimes.better than tasteless for sure
En taro Adun!
Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
May 09 2012 21:42 GMT
#133
Artosis and Wolf are in fact the only casters that are really solid. Excellent guy.
Joan_of_Arc
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia66 Posts
May 09 2012 21:46 GMT
#134
I rather like Wolf. He's grown a lot as a caster in his time working for Gom, and I enjoy his opinions. And even some of his puns

He does occaisionally get things wrong. Sometimes very wrong. But even the best casters miss things occasionally.
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
May 09 2012 21:48 GMT
#135
I have liked his casting since he started casting the super tournament with his DT-cocaster. I do agree with some of the comments that he is sometimes overly critical of players. If I were him, that would be my primary focus to improve. Other than that I don't really have anything negative to say.
What a player
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 21:49:51
May 09 2012 21:49 GMT
#136
somehting above good still not excellent - but i like him

#artosis is the one true god
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
May 09 2012 21:52 GMT
#137
Imo he is OK.. but not really anything special. I'm not sure why I don't rate him higher he knows stuff about the game but I just can't feel the passion in his casts. There is no fire in his voice during heated moments of battle.
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cronican
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada424 Posts
May 09 2012 21:53 GMT
#138
I like Wolf. He's gotten better over time and I think he has a real dedication to improve. Also he and Khaldor are really beginning to gel a lot better now.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
May 09 2012 21:54 GMT
#139
One thing I really hate about Wolf:

"I'll get back to that later, but right NOWWW..."

> Listens intently when action dies down, slight moment of silence

"Damn, look at that creep spread"

WTF?!
ChewbroCColi
Profile Joined July 2009
Denmark108 Posts
May 09 2012 21:54 GMT
#140
Wolf is really talented and him and Khaldor make an entertaining team that I just love watching!

One thing I paid attention to however is that he sometime says 'x needs to cancel that colossus before the building gets destroyed'. Now that doesn't make sense Wolf. You get all the minerals back even if the building is destroyed.

Besides that little remark, keep up the awesome work! :D
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