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NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
May 09 2012 21:57 GMT
#141
He needs to stop trying to be smart and guess the outcomes during games, and often turns out to be wrong. Stop calling players "embarassing" when theyr'e 10x better than you are.
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acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
May 09 2012 21:58 GMT
#142
Wolf is consistently one of my favorite casters, next to Day9 and Artosis. I can see how his coach-like visage can rub some people the wrong way, but it doesn't bother me.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 22:02:23
May 09 2012 21:59 GMT
#143
I do think that Wolf sometimes calles something wrong. I still remember that he once criticized a zerg for going fast expansion versus a fourgate. But overall I consider Wolf an excellent caster. He can do very good solo cast and he seems to work very well with any other caster. I have watched some matches purely because he cast them.

Of course he isn't perfect, but he does outstanding casts of Starcraft games.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
cesc
Profile Joined April 2011
South Africa77 Posts
May 09 2012 22:01 GMT
#144
Wolf was a total noob when he started casting - and he was still awesome.
Now that he has experience - he just makes gsl worth watching and its no surprise big tournaments are flying him everywhere to be their main caster.

I think you will find you are alone with you opinion about Wolf - the man deserves WAY more credit than he gets, nevermind criticism
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JLew
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada353 Posts
May 09 2012 22:09 GMT
#145
I wasn't a huge fan of Wolf or Khaldor (Wasn't overly negative towards either of them either, just preferred other people) but this season the combination of the two has been actually pretty good. I really enjoy the research that Khaldor puts into knowing the players and their match/tournament history's, as someone who follows conventional sports closely it reminds me of watching a Hockey or NFL game and the stats/history they use to fill empty air time instead of just blabbering about random shit and laughing at inside jokes.

Wolf also provides a good level of analysis, sometimes he might be a bit too critical of a players decisions, but anyone who has casted at all knows how easy of a trap this is to fall into. It's easy for even a silver league player to criticize a pro's decisions when he can see the entire map (much like someone commentating poker) and also when he can talk about things and decisions after they have played out and the caster has the advantage of hindsight as well as being able to see how each player stands after the engagement. Also it seems more common that professional games are lost by 1 player making an error or bad call, rather than the harder to detect subtle good decisions that player made up until that point that are basically irrelevant at the end of the a losing game. People will also criticize a caster for being overly positive about a player as well, so it's a tough balance to manage.

If I'm being 100% honest, a major detractor to Wolf's casting for me (and I realize how stupid this is, I feel stupid even writing it, but since this is a feedback thread I will) is his terrible posture. He is always so slouched over in his chair, it looks kind of childish and unprofessional.

Still, Wolf is a good caster and it is obvious to anyone who has watched him since his early days at GOM that he has made leaps and bounds on his way to becoming a better caster, and it has helped to have him with Khaldor as opposed to Doa and Moletrap.
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tarodotoxin
Profile Joined July 2011
United States110 Posts
May 09 2012 22:41 GMT
#146
theres wayyy too many times when Wolf says something wrong
he has good casting skills, but his comments on gameplay have many flaws.

its painful to listen to him for anyone who has above silver league knowledge imo
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
May 09 2012 22:45 GMT
#147
Wolf is awesome! :D
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
May 09 2012 22:50 GMT
#148
On May 10 2012 06:35 adi_hsd wrote:
I think Wolf should really immerse himself into the game. Make 12 hours playing sessions every day so he really has a feel for the game.
I find his commentating very fun, but when i watch games commentated by him i have no clue what is going on the map.
GOM doesnt really seem to understand that a large part of their viewers actually want to learn something from the games they watch.
For me id like them to get some good player(Catz would be pure gold for GOM imo) to do the analysis and have Wolf do his thing.

I've heard that Wolf ladders a lot and is masters on KR/TW actually.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 23:00:19
May 09 2012 22:57 GMT
#149
Wolfxc and Wolftosis are the best casting duos

Oh, and the biggest issue I had with Wolf was him always going on about how he created x protoss build on the ladder in beta, but I don't think he's done that so much recently.
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
Destroyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany299 Posts
May 09 2012 23:06 GMT
#150
I am really sad that wolf is everytime so negative about players decisions. This was also a topic of last weeks SOTG and I think Artosis was right with the points he made about the kind of casters that is overcritical. It really hurts me to hear all the time how bad players are (like litteraly every game) and it seems to be the main theme of the whole cast. I dont think that he is a bad caster but it is not really a plesure to watch his commentary because of his criticism. I hope he will some day start towards a different direction because at the moment I really am not satisfied to watch code A (even if i have to because of all the zergs in there o0). I hope for the best and think in general khaldor and wolf can be a very good team if they start to tune this whole theme a little bit down.
-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
May 09 2012 23:08 GMT
#151
Honestly he needs to stop talking about hair
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spbelky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States623 Posts
May 09 2012 23:37 GMT
#152
I view Wolf's casting style to be very similar to Artosis. They have a lot of the same mannerisms. However, I feel like Artosis has a better grasp of strategies and styles... So it is unfortunate for Wolf that he keeps being compared to Artosis, not because Wolf has any shortcomings, but because Artosis sets the bar so high.
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
May 09 2012 23:41 GMT
#153
His casting is good. It's hard to argue against that.

What bothers me is how annoying his laughter is and how he constantly laughs at his own jokes.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
May 09 2012 23:43 GMT
#154
Wolf's casting is fine, I don't see why people have a problem with him.

He has good technical knowledge and commentates well.
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kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
May 09 2012 23:47 GMT
#155
I like Wolf alot, would like him even better if he didn't talk about hair, didn't force laughter, and started wearing shorts when its hot. Im always sceptical to people that don't wear shorts.
"NO" -Has
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
May 09 2012 23:47 GMT
#156
Wolf's awkward but he has good analytical skills. He needs to get better with the basics of casting though.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
May 09 2012 23:53 GMT
#157
I like his casting the best out of all the code A casters and the best aside from possibly Artosis in korea.
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sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
May 09 2012 23:56 GMT
#158
On May 10 2012 07:50 Eee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 06:35 adi_hsd wrote:
I think Wolf should really immerse himself into the game. Make 12 hours playing sessions every day so he really has a feel for the game.
I find his commentating very fun, but when i watch games commentated by him i have no clue what is going on the map.
GOM doesnt really seem to understand that a large part of their viewers actually want to learn something from the games they watch.
For me id like them to get some good player(Catz would be pure gold for GOM imo) to do the analysis and have Wolf do his thing.

I've heard that Wolf ladders a lot and is masters on KR/TW actually.


Wolf is very good. Wasn't he initally on FXO as a player?
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
May 09 2012 23:56 GMT
#159
On May 09 2012 21:02 iYiYi wrote:
Wolf+Artosis is in my opinion the best casting duo. I wish those 2 could cast together more.


I've thought the same thing when I hear them together, they're really good, probably the best casting duo I've ever heard.
I've been lost since the day I was born ----- You're gonna carry that weight
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10344 Posts
May 09 2012 23:57 GMT
#160
He is great at casting. His "criticizing" is fine. The only real thing that sticks out (in a negative way) for him is his redundant voice inflections, specifically the kind he uses when questioning or criticizing someone. When he suggests/criticizes/questions things like that, he should mix the voice inflection a couple times or else it'll just emphasize his criticizing in a bad way like it is right now.

"He really should be moving his army here!"

(know what I mean?)


When I first listened to Wolf on GSL, I was really glad gom chose him. He has the excitement, the voice, the looks (kekek), and pretty good at the analysis thing.
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