Wolf annoyed me at first because of what I perceived as arrogance. I think Wolf was just nervous and getting used to being in the public eye. He still says some things that are pretty conceited from time to time and I wasn't big on the way he handled Hero crying after those embarrassing losses.

I think now he's getting a lot smoother and coming off a lot less nervous. Overall I would have to disagree with people who say he is only an average caster, I think you would have a hard time not classifying him in the top tier of casters. Compared to Apollo, their casting styles, mannerisms, sense of humor, and slightly inflated confidence level, are almost identical, so it seems funny to say that Apollo is top tier and Wolf is not.

Wolf seems to be getting better and better every season, the only feedback I would have for him is to be a bit more humble, and otherwise keep doing whatever he's doing...it's working.

Fionn

United States23455 Posts

May 09 2012 15:57 GMT

#103

I love Wolf, man. With out him, who else would breakdown each player's hair style?

He's become a staple of the GSL just like Tastosis for me. He has become the voice of Code A and while other people have come on gone including Moletrap, Kelly, etc., he's stood the test of time.

kheldorin

Singapore539 Posts

May 09 2012 15:59 GMT

#104

I don't like Wolf. As an analytical caster he gets a lot of things wrong. Recently, I've been tracking how many calls he got wrong( saying something would happen but it never did) and it has been increasing. I think he's over-compensating for his lack of knowledge by trying too hard to predict everything and then being overly harsh on the players when the player fails to make his prediction true. Rather than trying to predict everything, he should just say something like "this is going to be tough for the player to make it work but he could do it if this and this happens". That adds a lot of depth and is a lot more specific. It's better than making a wrong call and then using hindsight to figure out what went wrong.

It's so obvious that much of his analysis is based on hindsight rather than prior knowledge. When he casted alongside dApollo for Dreamhack, the gap in true knowledge is apparent even though Wolf seems to be a know-it-all while dApollo was unsure in certain match-ups or certain styles. This is basically the Dunning-Kruger effect. Likewise Mr.Bitter is better at analyzing zerg while Rotterdam is better at analyzing Protoss. They don't pretend to know everything. They'll be cases where they'll be like "We've never seen this before. Let's learn this new style together." and that's better than using hindsight and acting as if you knew it all along. This is why when Rotterdam says that he knows a certain European player's style or has talked to him, I believe him but not when Wolf claims to "know" a Korean player.

SyrZulu

80 Posts

May 09 2012 16:01 GMT

#105

agreed. But wolf is really good i love him and khaldor great team

Jlei

97 Posts

May 09 2012 16:03 GMT

#106

He's good when casting Protoss games and is generally a very good analytical caster.

Him like everyone not named Apollo (and I'm including Artosis, Grubby who are amazing analytical casters) are not great at casting Terran games. He misses a lot and generally doesn't have great things to say when he is casting Terran not vs. Protoss. Saying Bio is worse than Mech and trying to hammer the point like Artosis is terrible. It makes them sound like they don't know anything when TONS of pro players think that both are very viable (including MVP). MMA has the highest TvT ELO (and is probably the best at TvT in the world) and absolutely never Mechs and dismantles Mech players routinely.

Sure theorycrafting if someone plays perfect that Mech should be better is fine but these guys aren't Flash. Given the current crop of players Mech and Bio are equally viable and mostly Map and Player dependent.

shell

Portugal2722 Posts

May 09 2012 16:04 GMT

#107

I like Wolf, i think he does a very good job with Khaldor for GSL code A.
I also liked all the other gigs he did with other casters but i think he mashes really well with Khaldor, because they have a good mentality and try and help each other.
He is funny and knows what he his talking about.

keep it up

S2Lunar

1051 Posts

May 09 2012 16:07 GMT

#108

On May 10 2012 01:03 Jlei wrote:
He's good when casting Protoss games and is generally a very good analytical caster.

Him like everyone not named Apollo (and I'm including Artosis, Grubby who are amazing analytical casters) are not great at casting Terran games. He misses a lot and generally doesn't have great things to say when he is casting Terran not vs. Protoss. Saying Bio is worse than Mech and trying to hammer the point like Artosis is terrible. It makes them sound like they don't know anything when TONS of pro players think that both are very viable (including MVP). MMA has the highest TvT ELO (and is probably the best at TvT in the world) and absolutely never Mechs and dismantles Mech players routinely.

Sure theorycrafting if someone plays perfect that Mech should be better is fine but these guys aren't Flash. Given the current crop of players Mech and Bio are equally viable and mostly Map and Player dependent.

You think Apollo has better terran analysis than Artosis...? Ok.......

PiGStarcraft

Australia999 Posts

May 09 2012 16:09 GMT

#109

My main problem is when him and khaldor BOTH decide that the player is doing the wrong build and that it's their duty to harp on about it for the next 2 minutes. This is something they've improved on a lot in past months and its steadily moving from bad calls and negative criticism towards more neutral/positive assessment of the situation. That being said there is still a degree of improvement needed in this regard.

TRaFFiC

Canada1448 Posts

May 09 2012 17:30 GMT

#110

I added a poll as per the requests. :D

I'm not going to vote till I see if he changes. I'd like to vote excellent, but the current level of player bashing makes me wants to turn him off.

zergmacro34

59 Posts

May 09 2012 17:49 GMT

#111

dont like his arrogance

grindC

Germany274 Posts

May 09 2012 17:56 GMT

#112

Wolf is one of my favourite English casters... alongside Tastosis, Day9, d.Apollo, Grubby, Bitterdam and iNc. He should just keep doing what he's doing.

Love the awkward jokes with Khaldor sometimes.

Edit: dammit, I keep editing because I forget about all the great casters...

plus1elf

Canada19 Posts

May 09 2012 17:58 GMT

#113

I feel like he has stolen a few too many of Artosis' mannerisms for my liking. E.g. saying, "I don't know [insert co-caster's name]!" or saying "it's like..." followed by a bunch of crappy Tastosis-esque jokes.

No doubt that you have to learn from the best and living in Korea, casting in that environment it's no doubt Artosis and Tasteless are a huge influence and would be to anyone in that position, but Wolf should be more comfortable putting his own personality out there and develop more of his own style, rather than making me watch a hackneyed Artosis impression.

MisterTea

United Kingdom1047 Posts

May 09 2012 17:59 GMT

#114

Wolf is an amazing caster 10/10.

also the Ladder skill level of a caster does not mean he knows nothing about the game, he spends time watching top level players play, and its his job to understand and watch , not play at a masters level it's totally different, just because "polt is the best terran in the world" doesn't mean wolf should never say when he thinks he does something wrong, he probably understands the game just as well as some of these players.

kafkaesque

Germany2006 Posts

May 09 2012 18:01 GMT

#115

When first you started, I couldn't comprehend why GOM would hire you, since then every cast I saw from you convinced me to the contrary.

Extremely solid casting and funny, nerdy banter, that's exactly what I want.

Keep doing what you do, you're awesome!

farvacola

United States18858 Posts

May 09 2012 18:07 GMT

#116

Wolf is freaking hilarious and is easily one of my favorite casters. He reminds me of the nerds I used to play magic with back in the day, and his rapport with Khaldor makes for one of the best casting duos in the business. I hope to someday best him in a Starfox64 1v1.

ShakkaFL

Norway647 Posts

May 09 2012 18:08 GMT

#117

Wolf is probably the best caster in sc2 atm

Samp

Canada783 Posts

May 09 2012 18:10 GMT

#118

He is probably the difference between ill watch Code A matches or I wont watch Code A matches.
I really like him, funny, passionate, good sh1t.

DeCoder

Finland236 Posts

May 09 2012 18:10 GMT

#119

DoA + Wolf was by far the best Code A casting combo, and Wolf is the only current Code A caster that I like. He is a very good mix of analytical+entertaining.

Vansetsu

United States1454 Posts

May 09 2012 18:11 GMT

#120

Hmmm, feedback you say?

1. Stop mimicking Artosis's mannerisms, it's awful.
2. Stop calling battles's you clearly don't know the outcome of. Khaldor calls you out (indirectly) on this sooo many times.
3. Stop incorrectly rating players or calling the game before it even starts. You just confuse noobs who don't watch enough to know better.

other than that, you can be a great analytical caster... just try being yourself a little more and being more objective instead of trying to skip ahead to whatever predetermined result you think will occur in various situations.