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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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Drlemur
United States153 Posts
IMO, Wolf (and Khaldor) are already pretty good at this and also very enjoyable casters to watch. I very much like watching him cast and would definitely consider him among the top tier of casters I listen to (with Tastosis, Bitterdam, Day9 & Husky). All casters should view their job as their "craft" at which they should be constantly striving to improve. Of course, knowing what is better is hard given the wide variety of opinions you see on threads like this. Personally, I'd still like to see a little more play-by-play in the casts, a little more context (e.g., tournament situation outside the game, recent prior games of players), and a touch less trying to predict what will happen next. | ||
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On May 09 2012 20:39 TRaFFiC wrote: and Wolf, at best, plays in the master league. Your post lost all it's credibility here. So in order to make a valuable judgement you need to be at least the same level the players are? We wouldn't see any commentaries for any sports (or even anything in general) if that was the case. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46548 Posts
On May 09 2012 22:42 Drlemur wrote: There is a middle ground between strongly criticizing the players and saying they are the best ever. For example, you can acknowledge their high level of skill and yet say they didn't execute a specific play or engagement precisely. IMO, Wolf (and Khaldor) are already pretty good at this and also very enjoyable casters to watch. I very much like watching him cast and would definitely consider him among the top tier of casters I listen to (with Tastosis, Bitterdam, Day9 & Husky). All casters should view their job as their "craft" at which they should be constantly striving to improve. Of course, knowing what is better is hard given the wide variety of opinions you see on threads like this. Personally, I'd still like to see a little more play-by-play in the casts, a little more context (e.g., tournament situation outside the game, recent prior games of players), and a touch less trying to predict what will happen next. I find that Artosis is very good at finding this middle ground when he casts the GSL. He might say something like "Ya know, I'm not really sure why he's doing this/ if this is what he wants to be doing; [explanation]." It's much more professional, analytical, and it gives us insight into the match-up. It's also a lot more helpful than just shooting down a player for being "bad". | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
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KoBlades
Austria248 Posts
EDIT: On May 09 2012 20:39 TRaFFiC wrote: and Wolf, at best, plays in the master league. .. this is not a good statement to make. Sorry. EDIT: as others have said, I too really enjoyed Wolf and Artosis casting together, liked it even better than Tastosis. | ||
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SupeR z
United States73 Posts
GSL needs to get him a decent Code A partner though | ||
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deusarba
Croatia27 Posts
I do dislike some casters but i don't put them down by saying they are bad at casting (which some really, really, really are), i just don't watch/mute or rage on the hate threads by saying he's a arrogant moron. Saying that he's bad at casting and really not liking him as a person is just wrong. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
But wolf is pretty good. Nice analysis most of the time, good synergie with Khaldor. Few mistakes here and there and perhaps a tiny lack of deep knowldge of the players ( beside dinning with Polt ) but in the end he's a good caster. | ||
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
Which means he's a rarity for me in that regard, unfortunately. | ||
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
I don't feel the need to give any 'constructive' critism. Wolf seems to be improving without my help already, and I'm sure he'll continue since he seems to work really hard. | ||
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phoenixfeather95
665 Posts
On May 09 2012 20:39 TRaFFiC wrote: I just did a search. There is no feedback thread. Let me start by saying I'm a long time fan. The improvements he has made are incredible and he obviously does his homework on the players, studying replays etc. Recently though, I have to say I can't stand parts of his casting. He's consistently saying the player's style is "wrong" or "needs to change." For example, tonight he said Polt needs to change his tvt style of marine/tank. I find that hilarious considering polt is one of the best Terrans in the world and Wolf, at best, plays in the master league. It's the wrong kind of criticism regardless of the caster's skill. People watch the game to see the player's genius. The caster should try to analyze it and make positive comments. He should not rip his build apart. Should not say how it should be. Incontrol does this brilliantly. He adds to what the player is doing instead of taking away from it. My 2 cents. Perhaps others would like to add feedback. Well Wolf was saying that Polt keeps using the same build over and over again (2 fact and no more!) and that this is making Polt predictable, which is bad for him. Wolf is saying Polt should mix his builds up a bit. Now what's so wrong with that? He's not dissing Polt or anything... | ||
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SuperCarl
Sweden36 Posts
To everyone who keeps bringing up the argument that he is not allowed to criticize players because they are better than him: Give it a rest, that argument is so old and broken. It's his job to give his view of things. Also casters can and often do have a higher understanding of the game than they can execute since they dont spend as many hours grinding mechanics as the pros so writing casters of since "they are only in masters league at best" just proves your own ignorance. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On May 09 2012 23:07 jakethesnake wrote: I think that my favourite moment of casting was the day that Wolf and Artosis casted together. I know it wasn't everyone's favourite, but it was for me. There was just so much passion and excitement from them both, it was contageous. Plus I learned a lot! I can't see how that combo could divide opinion. Wolf is miles better than Tasteless, and Wolf and Artosis are good friends so i'm sure i'm sure there would be some good banter, as well as good anaylsis from the both of them. I would like to see a lot more of Wolftosis at various events in the future! | ||
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mataxp
Chile538 Posts
Keep up the good job  | ||
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2275 Posts
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Sorkoas
549 Posts
On May 09 2012 23:14 SharkStarcraft wrote: Wolf is fine, i just don't like his combo with Khaldor.... This is not valuable feedback. What is it you don't like? Saying that you simply don't like them together won't help them improve. | ||
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Aphasie
Norway474 Posts
On May 09 2012 20:39 TRaFFiC wrote: I just did a search. There is no feedback thread. Let me start by saying I'm a long time fan. The improvements he has made are incredible and he obviously does his homework on the players, studying replays etc. Recently though, I have to say I can't stand parts of his casting. He's consistently saying the player's style is "wrong" or "needs to change." For example, tonight he said Polt needs to change his tvt style of marine/tank. I find that hilarious considering polt is one of the best Terrans in the world and Wolf, at best, plays in the master league. It's the wrong kind of criticism regardless of the caster's skill. People watch the game to see the player's genius. The caster should try to analyze it and make positive comments. He should not rip his build apart. Should not say how it should be. Incontrol does this brilliantly. He adds to what the player is doing instead of taking away from it. My 2 cents. Perhaps others would like to add feedback. For a "long time fan" you dont seem to pay much attention. Yes Wolf has consistently said that Polt should change his style, but has also consistently referred to Polt stating that he would rather go mech, but finds it too hard. You also seem to be ignorant of the fact that TvT is Polt's weakest match-up and that he is in fact 2w-3l so far this year (korea). Wolfs statements comes based on the fact that mech is the strongest, albeit hardest, TvT style - and when the competition in the game increases (and it will) everyone has to make that switch some time. Hence its better to do it now. | ||
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
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mrafaeldie12
Brazil537 Posts
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