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SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
May 10 2012 17:03 GMT
#181
Having subscribed to GOM, I find Wolf's commentary delightful. A good mix of player knowledge, weird nerd humour stuff and decent game knowldge. Dat laugh <3
KEEP UPO THE GOOD WORK WOLF! As per the polls, 90% of the TL crowd think u put on a "fair" to "excellent" cast. That's amazing these days, when caster are getting a lil rough time (I'm thinking Cloud's recent video, which btw I agreed with lol).
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
May 12 2012 01:45 GMT
#182
Wolf - I don't want to hear what a player should or shouldn't be doing right now. You are not a pro player. Shut up.

Tell me what's important about what they're doing, and explain what is happening. But don't pass judgement on them. You are there to commentate the matches, not review the players.
Supporting TypeII Gaming - www.typeii.net - TypeReaL, TypePhoeNix, TypeSuN, TypeDBS!!
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
May 17 2012 07:01 GMT
#183
Can't watch my fav show anymore thx to wolf. His ego has grown to be so inflated. Just one game last night. The theme: PLAYER BASHING.

1)Wolf says happy was code s round of 4 then proceeds to bash him as usual saying it was a long time ago and "nobody remembers."
2) Then he says FORGG and HAPPY need to "prove themselves." Holy shit, I hate that sentence. Number one reason why moletrap was horrible.
3)Calls the game before it's over and then...
4) This is "embarrassing for forgg" when the only person it was embarrassing for was himself for making the wrong call...
5)Goes on and on (mentions at least 4 times that forgg has better ups) then realizes 2 min later happy had 2 upgrade advantage the whole time and doesn't admit his mistake. Such an arrogant caster.

He's grown too big for his chair, seriously.

Khaldor doing a much better job despite knowing slightly less about sc2.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
May 17 2012 07:07 GMT
#184
On May 12 2012 10:45 Dhalphir wrote:
Wolf - I don't want to hear what a player should or shouldn't be doing right now. You are not a pro player. Shut up.

Tell me what's important about what they're doing, and explain what is happening. But don't pass judgement on them. You are there to commentate the matches, not review the players.

This please.

And turn off progress bars. Surprise me! (said in Anton Ego voice)
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 17 2012 07:08 GMT
#185
You honestly can't blame Wolf (and Khaldor, who said the same thing) for calling that game over.

ForGG did play embarrassingly. He should have won 100 times out of 100. Wolf made the right call.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
May 17 2012 07:12 GMT
#186
Wolf, you're a great caster. You work very well with Khaldor, as the analytical caster. However, please stop trying to be like Tastosis. You're an established name now. Show us Wolf.

Also, I only want to hear you up whether you think something is going to work or not. You're not a coach or the player, don't say what they should/should not do.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
May 17 2012 07:15 GMT
#187
On May 17 2012 16:08 FuzzyJAM wrote:
You honestly can't blame Wolf (and Khaldor, who said the same thing) for calling that game over.

ForGG did play embarrassingly. He should have won 100 times out of 100. Wolf made the right call.

Has nothing to do with multiple wrong calls and EVERYTHING to do with player bashing. If you can't see that, I'm sorry. Maybe people like to see the players get shit on because it makes them feel better.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
May 17 2012 07:19 GMT
#188
I agree with the other posters in this thread, I like wolf but not as much as I did when I first started listening. He comes off a little... bashy.. Regardless if what he is saying is subjective to him, or even objectively true, I don't think anything besides analyzing the game / providing facts and insight about the player is necessary

Just my opinion though, and on the whole I like his casting, as well as Khaldor
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zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
May 17 2012 07:23 GMT
#189
I like listening to Wolf a lot and think he has a natural talent for this gig, but I also agree with the comments above stressing that he is more than a bit overboard on the player bashing. It just saps so much out of the excitement of watching even if I agree sometimes. He's quite good so I'm sure it will get better with taking constructive criticism to heart and/or naturally improving with experience.
there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
Zahir
Profile Joined March 2012
United States947 Posts
May 17 2012 07:28 GMT
#190
I think wolf does a great job. His off topics and attempts at humor I can take or leave, but that goes for most casters outside of tastosis. Wolf is probably the most observant caster of them all, I feel, he seems to catch upgrade and tech timings and harass as soon as it occurs, and he's very good at blow by blow, and at conveying who is ahead and why. His game and trend knowledge is not quite at the level of an Artosis, but whose is really. But overall he's a good, solid caster, theres rarely an awkward moment or slip up in a wolf cast. Could use a bit more depth though.
If I had to choose casters I would put Artosis, khaldor, then wolf.
What is best? To crush the Zerg, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the Protoss.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 07:30:33
May 17 2012 07:29 GMT
#191
On May 17 2012 16:15 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 16:08 FuzzyJAM wrote:
You honestly can't blame Wolf (and Khaldor, who said the same thing) for calling that game over.

ForGG did play embarrassingly. He should have won 100 times out of 100. Wolf made the right call.

Has nothing to do with multiple wrong calls and EVERYTHING to do with player bashing. If you can't see that, I'm sorry. Maybe people like to see the players get shit on because it makes them feel better.

I agree in general that Wolf is overly negative. This is not one such occasion.

Edit: In regards to not admitting to a mistake because he's arrogant, how about him repeatedly saying "Sorry, I'm not on the ball today, keep messing up"? Like. . .how much more admittance do you need?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
May 17 2012 07:32 GMT
#192
Wolf was better when he first started casting for GOM. Now, he's just an arrogant caster that keeps calling players "embarassing" and "disappointing" and always trying to be smart and guess and declare things before hand. I guess he's betting on the fact that a fraction of his calls would be right calls so that he would look like a genius, just like Artosis used to bet on certain players and call them gosu, but often turns out to be wrong. Artosis realized that and is becoming more neutral and professional now aday. He even gave credit to TheBest (who he demonized before) by calling him a good player. Wolf is just going in the opposite direction, away from the word "professional".
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
May 17 2012 07:42 GMT
#193
Please stop talking about hair during your cast, it's really embarrassing/awkward for those of us watching the stream. I'd much rather you go back to talking about yugioh instead.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 17 2012 07:54 GMT
#194
On May 17 2012 16:42 Amlitzer wrote:
Please stop talking about hair during your cast, it's really embarrassing/awkward for those of us watching the stream. I'd much rather you go back to talking about yugioh instead.

That's the joke.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Zahir
Profile Joined March 2012
United States947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 08:03:02
May 17 2012 07:59 GMT
#195
I think many in this thread need to remove the planks from their eyes before they go complaining about motes. Wolf is one of the best casters in the world, yet some of you are talking like he's trash. Perhaps by analyzing your own actions, y'all will understand why sometimes people come off the way wolf does. When judging people in the light of an extremely high standard of performance, which is often the case in competitive arenas, it's all too easy to slip up and come off as too harsh.

I do think he would do well to sound more neutral. But lets set an example by not bashing a hard working talented guy who probably respects the players a lot more than his attempts at color commentary suggest.
What is best? To crush the Zerg, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the Protoss.
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 08:07:39
May 17 2012 08:07 GMT
#196
I love Wolf, he's very funny and knowledgeable. I hold him and Khaldor in very high regard when it comes to casting duos and they are fresh and enthusiastic about the game (Tastosis often mentions them showing up to the studio to watch the games they aren't casting).

I don't mind criticism, however I think Wolf and Khaldor have been getting in the habit of criticizing the players before their strategies pan out, which I don't think is fair! I'd like to hear the casters opinion of what the players are thinking as the game/strategy develops, and then what the casters thought about it after the first engagement or w/e is over and how it'll affect the game from then on out. Just stop calling things mistakes before they happen and they will be the golden duo :D
swinkles
Profile Joined June 2011
131 Posts
May 17 2012 08:13 GMT
#197
Wolf, if he ever reads this.

You and khaldor solidified for cade has made your commentary duo better than tastosis, who i think are pretty stale at this point, they could use a shake up. artosis with wolf last week was brilliant.

wolf, great caster, keep up the good work dude
Plague1503
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia466 Posts
May 17 2012 08:16 GMT
#198
Wolf, much like Artosis, gets the same shit for DOING HIS FUCKING JOB. Learn the difference between a caster and a commentator plz.
"Good luck." "I don't need luck. I have ammo."
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 09:17:34
May 17 2012 09:09 GMT
#199
On May 17 2012 16:29 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 16:15 TRaFFiC wrote:
On May 17 2012 16:08 FuzzyJAM wrote:
You honestly can't blame Wolf (and Khaldor, who said the same thing) for calling that game over.

ForGG did play embarrassingly. He should have won 100 times out of 100. Wolf made the right call.

Has nothing to do with multiple wrong calls and EVERYTHING to do with player bashing. If you can't see that, I'm sorry. Maybe people like to see the players get shit on because it makes them feel better.

I agree in general that Wolf is overly negative. This is not one such occasion.

Edit: In regards to not admitting to a mistake because he's arrogant, how about him repeatedly saying "Sorry, I'm not on the ball today, keep messing up"? Like. . .how much more admittance do you need?

I didn't watch the whole cast. He doesn't have to say "sorry." Just admit his mistake and move on, something he failed to do over and over again while at the same time criticizing the players. He just needs to stop the player bashing. I can live with his arrogance. That is all.

edit: Every single player in code a went through the rigorous code b qualifiers, one of the hardest in the world. Some of them are from code S where they played for many seasons. These players deserve the utmost respect, every single one of them. It sickens me when Wolf bashes some of the best players Code A has to offer. No player deserves that.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
May 17 2012 09:13 GMT
#200
On May 17 2012 17:16 Plague1503 wrote:
Wolf, much like Artosis, gets the same shit for DOING HIS FUCKING JOB. Learn the difference between a caster and a commentator plz.


Most people would, quite correctly, contend there's a difference between good color commentary and bad. The criticisms don't even say he's bad at it, but point out a specific instance where they think he's not that sharp and could improve overall. Seems pretty constructive, IMHO.
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