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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 23:48:13
May 07 2012 23:47 GMT
#861
On May 08 2012 08:22 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
[16:17] <SirJolt> Man, this news about all the heart of the swarm changes bums me out
[16:18] <SirJolt> Blizzard spends two years saying, "IT CAN'T BE DONE!" "THE TECHNOLOGY ISN'T THERE!" and now it turns around and says, "For the low, low cost of $60, the technology can be there."


Unless I am mistaken it is going to cost 40$ not 60. Unless that has changed recently as blizzard has stated multiple times that they are having it the cost of an expansion.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 07 2012 23:48 GMT
#862
On May 08 2012 08:45 MasterKang wrote:
Does anyone know if the unranked matchmaking will have MMR or if it will be just random people? Becuase if it's random people, it's basically the same as joining a custom game on a standard ladder map, which matches you with online people already


"We also intend to have our first version of unranked play so you will have the ability to match-make against like-skilled players without having to affect your ladder ranking while you practice off-race or experiment with a new build order."

It will be based off MMR, but wins/losses wont have any affect on MMR nor your league rank.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
juicy
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia145 Posts
May 07 2012 23:48 GMT
#863
I can't believe it took them two years to implement some of this stuff. I mean it's great and all, but "reload from replay" should have been so very long ago..
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 07 2012 23:49 GMT
#864
Blizzard actually listening? IS THIS REAL LIFE?
SO EXCITED :dddddd
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
May 07 2012 23:50 GMT
#865
On one hand, I have to love all these changes. Blizzard's been listening.

On the other hand, I'm having a hard time believing that HOTS will launch in 2012 with working versions of all these features.
Bearhammer
Profile Joined October 2011
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 23:52:50
May 07 2012 23:50 GMT
#866
Hell, it's about time!
"To give less than your best is to sacrfice the gift" -Steve Prefontaine
zumpy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States122 Posts
May 07 2012 23:50 GMT
#867
All these changes makes buying HoTS totally worth it 200% more
well won
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
May 07 2012 23:54 GMT
#868
Blizzard finally giving us what we want. Thank Flash!
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
May 07 2012 23:55 GMT
#869
I already assumed this stuff was coming as they're nice back of the box style features that they can put on the expansion packs budget, the problem is by tying these kind of large features to the release of the expansion packs they're now playing catch up. This stuff is all base line, and they still aren't where Dota 2 or LoL is with their infrastructure such that we can watch our friends ladder or play games on a delay or with only their fog of war which has basically become standard.

And they still can't commit to releasing with heart of the swarm, only "at or around the release of HotS".
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
May 07 2012 23:56 GMT
#870
Nice news. Funnily enough, though, they will still be behind their competitors when HotS is finally out and still need to catch up. I guess that years of WoW success were not sufficient to make the "games as a service" mindset creep to their other releases.
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
May 07 2012 23:58 GMT
#871
The technology's just not there yet!!!!

Sorry but I will believe this when I see it. All of this could have been implemented at any time pre or post release but they didn't consider it important enough. What Blizzard don't seem to realise is lack of these features caused a lot of people to stop playing, the whole experience was just too isolating.
-Couldn't watch replays together
-Couldn't try funsie builds to keep game fresh w/o hemorrhaging ladder points
-No clan support!
-Can't play with online friends from overseas w/o forking out $$ for another account.

The community would have been even stronger than it is now if these features had been included from beta/release. Why they think these things aren't important to growing their game is just idiotic, especially when they have all the knowledge of what made their previous games successful. Foremost, it is and always will be, a community of players.

/rant
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 08 2012 00:00 GMT
#872
On May 08 2012 08:47 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 08:22 Kiett wrote:
[16:17] <SirJolt> Man, this news about all the heart of the swarm changes bums me out
[16:18] <SirJolt> Blizzard spends two years saying, "IT CAN'T BE DONE!" "THE TECHNOLOGY ISN'T THERE!" and now it turns around and says, "For the low, low cost of $60, the technology can be there."


Unless I am mistaken it is going to cost 40$ not 60. Unless that has changed recently as blizzard has stated multiple times that they are having it the cost of an expansion.


Honestly I would pay 60 if thats what they wanted to charge. I mean they are giving me the content of a full game+multiplayer bonuses which is certainaly worth the cost of a full game.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 08 2012 00:00 GMT
#873
On May 08 2012 08:55 Dingobloo wrote:
I already assumed this stuff was coming as they're nice back of the box style features that they can put on the expansion packs budget, the problem is by tying these kind of large features to the release of the expansion packs they're now playing catch up. This stuff is all base line, and they still aren't where Dota 2 or LoL is with their infrastructure such that we can watch our friends ladder or play games on a delay or with only their fog of war which has basically become standard.

And they still can't commit to releasing with heart of the swarm, only "at or around the release of HotS".


Lol didn't even had replays until recently.....
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 08 2012 00:00 GMT
#874
On May 08 2012 09:00 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 08:47 blade55555 wrote:
On May 08 2012 08:22 Kiett wrote:
[16:17] <SirJolt> Man, this news about all the heart of the swarm changes bums me out
[16:18] <SirJolt> Blizzard spends two years saying, "IT CAN'T BE DONE!" "THE TECHNOLOGY ISN'T THERE!" and now it turns around and says, "For the low, low cost of $60, the technology can be there."


Unless I am mistaken it is going to cost 40$ not 60. Unless that has changed recently as blizzard has stated multiple times that they are having it the cost of an expansion.


Honestly I would pay 60 if thats what they wanted to charge. I mean they are giving me the content of a full game+multiplayer bonuses which is certainaly worth the cost of a full game.


Oh me to, but they aren't thank god
When I think of something else, something will go here
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 00:02:47
May 08 2012 00:01 GMT
#875
On May 08 2012 08:58 ThunderGod wrote:
The technology's just not there yet!!!!

Sorry but I will believe this when I see it. All of this could have been implemented at any time pre or post release but they didn't consider it important enough. What Blizzard don't seem to realise is lack of these features caused a lot of people to stop playing, the whole experience was just too isolating.
-Couldn't watch replays together
-Couldn't try funsie builds to keep game fresh w/o hemorrhaging ladder points
-No clan support!
-Can't play with online friends from overseas w/o forking out $$ for another account.

The community would have been even stronger than it is now if these features had been included from beta/release. Why they think these things aren't important to growing their game is just idiotic, especially when they have all the knowledge of what made their previous games successful. Foremost, it is and always will be, a community of players.

/rant


I disagree purely because with developement time new features take we probably wouldve gotten the game in either 2011 or early 2012 and the community would not have had time to grow to what it is.
hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
May 08 2012 00:04 GMT
#876
im super excited to see blizzard listening to the people and hopefully realizing the importance of esports and the longevity of the game!
Hooktits of Tits gaming @hooktits twit
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
May 08 2012 00:04 GMT
#877
it

took

them fucking 2 years to insert clans.

are you kidding me. fucking warcraft 3 reign of chaos had clans. man
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 00:07:35
May 08 2012 00:05 GMT
#878
On May 08 2012 09:01 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 08:58 ThunderGod wrote:
The technology's just not there yet!!!!

Sorry but I will believe this when I see it. All of this could have been implemented at any time pre or post release but they didn't consider it important enough. What Blizzard don't seem to realise is lack of these features caused a lot of people to stop playing, the whole experience was just too isolating.
-Couldn't watch replays together
-Couldn't try funsie builds to keep game fresh w/o hemorrhaging ladder points
-No clan support!
-Can't play with online friends from overseas w/o forking out $$ for another account.

The community would have been even stronger than it is now if these features had been included from beta/release. Why they think these things aren't important to growing their game is just idiotic, especially when they have all the knowledge of what made their previous games successful. Foremost, it is and always will be, a community of players.

/rant


I disagree purely because with developement time new features take we probably wouldve gotten the game in either 2011 or early 2012 and the community would not have had time to grow to what it is.


Yeah because they had to tap into that esports fountain that was only flowing in 2010. This is also assuming that features that we had in games 12 years ago would take that long to implement.


On May 08 2012 08:18 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 08:13 Serpico wrote:
On May 08 2012 07:40 Mzimzim wrote:
On May 08 2012 07:36 Gigaudas wrote:
Multiplayer resume from replay
Global Play
Multilanguage support
Clan/group system
Unranked matchmaking
Multiplayer replay viewing


While I'll def. have to purchase the expansion I can't help but hate Blizzard even more for being a company that makes money by screwing customers over.

These functions aren't something that you should get in an expansion, they are easy to implement and should've been patched into the game as soon as Blizzard realized people's demand for them (which should've been back in the beta of 2010).

I used to be happy to help fund Blizzard. Now I consider them a scourge of the gaming market, a company who's ideals must be fought for the sake of us gamers - and the only way a customer can fight is with his wallet.


Coming from console gaming and having to pay for Xbox Live and a new COD every 6 months, you won't see me complaining. As long as this will remain a good game for years to come, I don't mind paying $60 for the expansions.

Just the attitude pc gaming doesn't need. I don't see the rationale of paying that much for an expansion.


Depends on the expansion size. An update like this is HUGE. It brings a new campaign, new units, TONS of balance work and now all these new features we were asking for. It seems comparable in scale to the original game, or at least comparable enough to warrant paying 60 dollars for it.
If it was just the new campaign, or even the new campaign and the tons of work going into creating and balancing the new units during and after development, I wouldn't pay full price. Fortunately for them, this laundry list of awesome features that they just dumped on us warrants the payment I feel.


new units that could be made in map editors right now.

TONS of balance work that no one wants/game doesn't need.

"new" features we had in games that are decade old.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 08 2012 00:09 GMT
#879
Omg! This is it! This is pretty much everything we ever wanted! I can barely believe it !

Starcraft II just became the greatest game ever made to me! ;D

Blizzard <3
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
May 08 2012 00:14 GMT
#880
So Blizzard upgrades Bnet from 0.2 to 0.5 and people love them for it, lol...
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
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