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zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
April 30 2012 20:46 GMT
#81
+ she's a girl obviously
+ accent
+ i'll rather watch her than the clock

- i really don't care about sentrys patching history

MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
April 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#82
lol...

this thread gets more posts in an hour than our live reports...
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
April 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#83
On May 01 2012 05:49 MrBitter wrote:
lol...

this thread gets more posts in an hour than our live reports...


A GIRL IS ON THE INTERNET
this cannot stand!
Thank God and gunrun.
pAnatiC
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany123 Posts
April 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#84
Everything Soe touches turns into pure Gold!
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 20:52:40
April 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#85
On May 01 2012 05:49 MrBitter wrote:
lol...

this thread gets more posts in an hour than our live reports...


The community loves to pitchfork any woman in esports. Then anyone that comes to their defense is branded a white knight (not necessarily in this thread, but in general).
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
April 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#86
O.o Don't see what was so terribly wrong with that clip. It's aimed at super beginners, so who cares if she's not explaining things to the depth of Artosis and Day9... that's not the intended purpose.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
April 30 2012 20:52 GMT
#87
On May 01 2012 05:51 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 05:49 MrBitter wrote:
lol...

this thread gets more posts in an hour than our live reports...


The community loves to pitchfork any women in esports. Then anyone that comes to their defense is branded a white knight (not necessarily in this thread, but in general).


Defend girl on internet? Definitely trying to cyber.
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
April 30 2012 20:52 GMT
#88
lol is this thread serious? Of all the little segments like that on NASL sues corner was the best IMHO, regardless of her being a cute girl.

OP, please I hope right now your typing up your criticisms of 'mining out' and 'Gretorps top ten' too.
Give me a break.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
April 30 2012 20:54 GMT
#89
On May 01 2012 05:49 MrBitter wrote:
lol...

this thread gets more posts in an hour than our live reports...

Don't tell the community they're bigger fans of stuff outside the game than the game itself. I did it once. I barely survived.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
April 30 2012 20:54 GMT
#90
On May 01 2012 05:49 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 05:49 MrBitter wrote:
lol...

this thread gets more posts in an hour than our live reports...


A GIRL IS ON THE INTERNET
this cannot stand!


I never intended this to be a "girl on the internet" post, and it has been taken that way. I have stated numerous times, it was about content matter... If a male provided content I felt lacking, I would have posted also... If anything, the "it's a women" scare was the opposite I would ever want... Women in esports = 100% approval by me, for instance I was a fan of Scarlett before IPL (unlike most of this community) and the appearence of Anna from EG as host at an event I just can't recall...

So please stop insinuating that I am against girls on the internet, or the only reason I posted this was because of that... It's plain wrong.
FoTG fighting!
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
April 30 2012 20:56 GMT
#91
Not directed at you in particular, NeMeSiS3. Just that this is where the thread end up. Everyone sees it coming.
Thank God and gunrun.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 23:07:36
April 30 2012 20:57 GMT
#92
I'm the first one to jump on misuse of females in esports - unqualified talent that were hired based on looks etc....but this..this seems completely fine to me 0_o

When i first read your post i thought "oh not again" but upon watching the video it seems pretty light and entertaining - sure theres room for improvement, buts its a brand new segment and that's to be expected.

Overall, i find these small segments that NASL have been adding really interesting and break up the flow of constant games nicely.
hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 21:02:53
April 30 2012 20:57 GMT
#93
On May 01 2012 05:44 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 05:36 corpuscle wrote:
By the way, the segment they did with SelecT and viOLet using construction equipment to move around a pile a dirt didn't teach new players anything... you gonna complain about that too?

Even if she was a complete moron and everything she said was super basic and/or wrong, it's better than watching a "stay tuned!" screen and listening to some generic electro-pop or muscle rock, which is what 90% of tournaments do to fill time.


... If content is mean't to be funny, then I'm glad it is funny. If it is mean't to be analysis based, and is not, then why show it? The argument "even if she is a complete moron and everything she said was basic or wrong" is a terrible argument, firstly because I never once said she was wrong or a moron but mainly because that takes away from the community. If it is suppose to be her own talk show, with cool backstory and lore, then show that but don't get into a balance discussion over the unit or discuss its attributes so thinly. That is all I was trying to get across...

Soooo, try thinking of this as entertainment instead of education and you are good?

Seriously, it was had so much more content than dirt moving. That doesn't mean I'm going to judge the "mining content" harshly, I see no reason for this excessive criticism, the fillers are just that - fillers!

Nemesis: I think you started defending yourself against remarks that wasn't directed at your/your posts. I refer to the post below and the one eralier on the page. We are not out to get you, man, and people have made snide remarks directed at each other plenty of times in this thread.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 20:59:56
April 30 2012 20:59 GMT
#94
On May 01 2012 05:54 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 05:49 MrBitter wrote:
lol...

this thread gets more posts in an hour than our live reports...

Don't tell the community they're bigger fans of stuff outside the game than the game itself. I did it once. I barely survived.

Perhaps all of the negative feedback from player to pro is based on sarcastic remarks? I have yet to insult any professional player, and/or caster I even refrain usually from making fun of Blizzard employee's until Mr. Kim decided "imbalanced maps make the game more fun" and that crossed the line...

Constantly you have been labeling me, and the community as these stereotypical idiot trolls... I'm sorry, but myself personally, cannot agree with that. I have supported you as a professional player, and for the past 2 years in your horrendous slump I have always said "Nony's gonna come back" and I've been a loyal fan... You have continually been arrogant and rude, for no reason at all, and as I've said before you really just won't care, but I am no longer a fan... I tried to make this thread as unbias as possible, that doesn't matter... Perhaps instead of condeming the community as a group that "are bigger fans of stuff outside the game than the game itself" you should perhaps invest your time in "the game itself, instead of stuff outside the game" to perhaps improve... But what do I know, I'm not a professional player, so probably nothing.

And I'm sorry Mr Bitter that is the case, I didn't mean to create a thread to rival the post count of your live reports...
FoTG fighting!
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3097 Posts
April 30 2012 21:01 GMT
#95
This seems completely fine. Her strategy tips aren't high level, obviously, but they're not supposed to be, nor are they the main focus of the segment. As a simple explanation of what the unit is and what it does, it works quite nicely, and her artwork (which is excellent, by the way) is a nice way to illustrate what she's saying. I also really appreciate NASL not "sexing her up" in any way. She looks nice and normal, and that's great. Overall, it's a nice segment.

The only con I see is that her accent is occasionally a little hard to follow (though very clear in general). Other than that, it's all good.

I think a lot of people on this forum need to chill out. Not every new thing in ESPORTS needs to be raked over the coals or hyperventilated over.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
April 30 2012 21:01 GMT
#96
I still don't see what the problem is. Tons of SC2 content with questionable merit for the highest level players, why does this stand out?
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
April 30 2012 21:02 GMT
#97
On May 01 2012 05:49 MrBitter wrote:
lol...

this thread gets more posts in an hour than our live reports...

It's been a slow couple days. Most of the top threads have been there all weekend. No new news. No major tournaments. People were bound to jump on the first new thing there was to talk about.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
April 30 2012 21:03 GMT
#98
On May 01 2012 06:01 HorsemasterK wrote:
I still don't see what the problem is. Tons of SC2 content with questionable merit for the highest level players, why does this stand out?


I didn't feel as if this applied, I never said we should tailor it for the highest level players, low level is fine, I just felt it was dumb'd down so harshly and present poorly enough that it may have a negative impact on beginner players... For instance, many may say "Hey look, make this shit and I can 1A win" without really thinking to deeply. Sure that's fun, but if the goal is improvement it sure seems away from the point.
FoTG fighting!
Voreau
Profile Joined June 2011
United States192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 21:04:27
April 30 2012 21:03 GMT
#99
Funny how someone so concerned with accurate analysis could so wildly miss the point of the clip. And the finger shaking at NonY..? What a troll this kid is.

All the filler content NASL is producing is great, kudos to them for upping the standards.
kuroshiro
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom378 Posts
April 30 2012 21:04 GMT
#100
I thought that spot was pretty good.

Your points:
"-She seems to be reading a script she doesn't understand"
I know that's been debunked but the implication was that she was speaking uncomfortably, which I didn't detect beyond the standard non-native speaker thing.

"-She does not analyse the things she is discussing well"
If that's the case it went totally over my head. I'm gold-> plat league so maybe I don't know better, but it's sure given me what look like some fun ideas to practice. Maybe the spot just isn't aimed any higher. I certainly think it would be difficult to do so within 4 minutes, including the lore stuff, which as it happens I enjoyed (mostly because of the drawings).

That's my opinion at least!

Putting on my INTARNET SAICOLOGY hat: This thread is framed in a really `drama' fashion. Constantly being on the defensive and bringing up how this thread IS NOT about sexism only brings the sexism argument out of the background. If you have a valid point to make that's not related to sexism then just.. you know.. make it. And if it's valid or worth arguing over people will do so. Some asshats will bring up the sexism thing, but we ignore those guys. Cause they're asshats.
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