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Flash said "Toss is too strong, I regreat picking terran" According to him, it's been 10 days since he's started seriously practicing, but he rolled ladder with just 3 units only.
Only the slightest possibility that Flash might reconsider his choice to play terran makes me nervous :S Just play terran Flash. Don't look back!
He is supposed to help us terrans out of the dark age with large macro maps and no viable terran lategame, lol
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On May 09 2012 19:32 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 19:28 algue wrote:On May 09 2012 19:11 scsnow wrote:On May 09 2012 19:03 papaz wrote: Ah, I love when Flash says "P is too strong".
Lets see all the forum warriors trying to explain to him that he is wrong and statistics and blabla shows otherwise.
It's like when he has spoken everyone is "ok, then it must be like that". http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_TournamentsThen why more people dont play P and win more of the big tournaments? Protoss is strong Protoss players are bad ( exept a few one ) people shouldn't say stupid things like this and get away with it... either way the bw players are gnerally switching to toss, or staying same race
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On May 09 2012 19:28 algue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 19:11 scsnow wrote:On May 09 2012 19:03 papaz wrote: Ah, I love when Flash says "P is too strong".
Lets see all the forum warriors trying to explain to him that he is wrong and statistics and blabla shows otherwise.
It's like when he has spoken everyone is "ok, then it must be like that". http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_TournamentsThen why more people dont play P and win more of the big tournaments? Protoss is strong Protoss players are bad ( exept a few one )
cool story bro, and now, why I cannot say shit like:
Terran is OP Terran players are bad (except MKP and MVP)
Zerg is OP Zerg players are horrible (except DRG and maybe Stephano)
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Its seems like general consensus to BW players that P is best race. Makes me sad hearing FBH switch
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Someone should do some statistical analysis on TL's forum balance whine. Would be funny to see the trends : like "Terran OP" before pros figured out 111 and "Protoss OP" nowadays.
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On May 09 2012 19:28 algue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 19:11 scsnow wrote:On May 09 2012 19:03 papaz wrote: Ah, I love when Flash says "P is too strong".
Lets see all the forum warriors trying to explain to him that he is wrong and statistics and blabla shows otherwise.
It's like when he has spoken everyone is "ok, then it must be like that". http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_TournamentsThen why more people dont play P and win more of the big tournaments? Protoss is strong Protoss players are bad ( exept a few one )
Well none of top EU P players were able to stop Stephano's roaches at Take's recent invitational. They all just got crushed by that even they knew what was coming. Clearly P overpowered...
You leave Z alone as P.. you die to mass / tech. You leave P alone as T.. you die to tech.
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I look back to the days where khaydarin amulet was still in the game and I laugh. :D
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On May 09 2012 20:00 Firebolt145 wrote: I look back to the days where khaydarin amulet was still in the game and I laugh. :D
Simply u cannot get ht, with stim timing at 5 minutes rotfl
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On May 09 2012 19:21 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 18:33 loginn wrote:On May 08 2012 22:59 kakaman wrote:
Looks like FBH is confirmed, and unfortunately confirmed to play P...not a big loss compared to if Bisu switched to T Stork is here too ! He's playing WoW at the top of MC's Friendlist :D Not sure if trolling. The name of the guy playing WoW isn't Stork's Korean name.
I know it's not Stork. Stork is just known for playing WoW. It was a joke ><
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Ah that's true. I still grin when I remember all the 2base all-ins that Protoss were doing without experimenting with anything else. But what do I know ~
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It's silly to switch to the strongest race anyway. If it's really that strong, Blizzard will do something about it. They should understand that right? It works like that in SC2.
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On May 09 2012 20:05 ZenithM wrote: It's silly to switch to the strongest race anyway. If it's really that strong, Blizzard will do something about it. They should understand that right? It works like that in SC2.
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On May 09 2012 20:05 ZenithM wrote: It's silly to switch to the strongest race anyway. If it's really that strong, Blizzard will do something about it. They should understand that right? It works like that in SC2.
Actually that's a good point. What if they think that the game is gonna stay the way it is now forever? xP That would explain all these comments. Inb4 flash-keanu reeves meme.
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Pls no Flash, no. Don't join the dark force. Keep playing Terran, I beg you
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On May 09 2012 19:39 AngryPenguin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 19:28 algue wrote:On May 09 2012 19:11 scsnow wrote:On May 09 2012 19:03 papaz wrote: Ah, I love when Flash says "P is too strong".
Lets see all the forum warriors trying to explain to him that he is wrong and statistics and blabla shows otherwise.
It's like when he has spoken everyone is "ok, then it must be like that". http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_TournamentsThen why more people dont play P and win more of the big tournaments? Protoss is strong Protoss players are bad ( exept a few one ) cool story bro, and now, why I cannot say shit like: Terran is OP Terran players are bad (except MKP and MVP) Zerg is OP Zerg players are horrible (except DRG and maybe Stephano) You can't say this because a lot of T players an Z players win tournament.
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Lol its to early to call this, almost everyone tries different races at the beginning, in the end they choose after SOME time and stick to it. Flash said he still did not experience all 3 races and he was playing terran mainly. Lets wait after OSL for more concrete standings, because now it will change a lot, all players could aswell switch again even those who are playing in masters/GM.
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On May 09 2012 20:07 Gantritor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 20:05 ZenithM wrote: It's silly to switch to the strongest race anyway. If it's really that strong, Blizzard will do something about it. They should understand that right? It works like that in SC2. Not ? I'm not saying they'll patch if a Protoss win the GSL. But surely if there are 32 Protoss in Code S Blizzard will do something you know. It does work like that, you cannot let a game in a state of complete imbalance if you care for esports just one bit.
So, I'm saying that even if pros believe a race is stronger at the moment, doesn't mean it will stay that way for too long, so it's silly to choose based on current balance. Surely you must see that right? And I'm not even talking about innovation from players themselves, balancing around maps and metagame shifts...
Edit: The keyword here is "current". Balance shifts all the time. If they were joining in late 2010, they would have all picked Terran and been doing stim timings and abusing cliffs with siege tanks right?
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On May 09 2012 19:59 scsnow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 19:28 algue wrote:On May 09 2012 19:11 scsnow wrote:On May 09 2012 19:03 papaz wrote: Ah, I love when Flash says "P is too strong".
Lets see all the forum warriors trying to explain to him that he is wrong and statistics and blabla shows otherwise.
It's like when he has spoken everyone is "ok, then it must be like that". http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_TournamentsThen why more people dont play P and win more of the big tournaments? Protoss is strong Protoss players are bad ( exept a few one ) Well none of top EU P players were able to stop Stephano's roaches at Take's recent invitational. They all just got crushed by that even they knew what was coming. Clearly P overpowered... You leave Z alone as P.. you die to mass / tech. You leave P alone as T.. you die to tech. What top EU P players are better than Stephano? And putting on pressure vs P and Z are two completely different things. Forcing unit production so zerg can't drone is key in both T and P vs. Z, while in TvP, at most u force some sentry warp ins.
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On May 09 2012 20:16 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 20:07 Gantritor wrote:On May 09 2012 20:05 ZenithM wrote: It's silly to switch to the strongest race anyway. If it's really that strong, Blizzard will do something about it. They should understand that right? It works like that in SC2. Not ? I'm not saying they'll patch if a Protoss win the GSL. But surely if there are 32 Protoss in Code S Blizzard will do something you know. It does work like that, you cannot let a game in a state of complete imbalance if you care for esports just one bit. So, I'm saying that even if pros believe a race is stronger at the moment, doesn't mean it will stay that way for too long, so it's silly to choose based on current balance. Surely you must see that right? And I'm not even talking about innovation from players themselves, balancing around maps and metagame shifts... Edit: The keyword here is "current". Balance shifts all the time. If they were joining in late 2010, they would have all picked Terran and been doing stim timings and abusing cliffs with siege tanks right?
You said "It works like that in SC2", I said "Not" as in a "Not-joke". Because Blizzard is just trolling us (terran players) since august 2010.
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On May 08 2012 15:30 maize wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2012 13:02 iky43210 wrote:On May 08 2012 12:39 vthree wrote:Look at how action packed that ZvP is god damn I hope it can be like that in SC2 some day. Problem is the way SC2 is designed doesn't really cater to action all over the map style. In BW, you can have small engagements all over the place. This is because defenders advantage is much greater and a smaller amount of units can hold off/trade efficiently vs a significantly larger force. So you end up with players having about 50% of their army defending their bases and the rest all over the map. In SC2, the bigger army (even 20% more support) has a huge advantage. Unless the unit comps are hard hard counters, the bigger army will win and more efficiently. So most SC2 engagements are ball vs ball. You do get multi prong attacks sometimes but most are just base harass and lasts a short time. You rarely see multi fights in different location. Because it is just better to your entire army all together. This is probably more true for protoss, they like their balls clump and tight, zerg and terran, not so much. It really boils down to the map types, and we ought to get rid of all these choke point/few entrances maps I think it's because it's just so much easier to move your entire army around now. Before, if you tried to move 40 dragoons across the map they would go all different directions and just keep bumping into each other but now pathfinding is better and you can put all your units on 1 hotkey.
That's one point, but the defenders advantage is a main factor. Unit Pathing and Control groups just emphazises the lazyness of players but would be seen less (after a lot of time) if there were the same defenders advantage as in bw.
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