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On May 09 2012 23:20 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 23:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 09 2012 23:05 Assirra wrote:On May 09 2012 22:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 09 2012 22:11 iCastor wrote: I am a Protoss player and I do think Protoss is a little strong even though I have a lot of trouble with zerg... anyone watching the GSL code S??? 3 toss top 4 :D iirc, when it was DRG vs. Genius, the other two players in the top four were both Terrans  So it hardly matters. Terran and Protoss were pretty even throughout the GSL this season. It's really the Zergs we should be looking at- how poorly they're doing, despite Zerg supposedly doing just fine against Protoss and Terran. Zergs were doing bad previous season as well tbh. DRG was the only zerg in the round of 8. Right, I meant in general TLPD winrates. Why is there supposed balance across the board when Zerg has only one or two notorious top finishers each season? What isn't carrying over from ladder and other tournaments (because Zergs do just fine there) into the GSL? Probably the time to prepare. Zergs are the most vurnable to timing attacks since they don't have a "oh shit" solution to stop or at least delay an attack. If you got the wrong units out, you die. You have no forcefields, you cannot move your natural to your main. They also got the lovely design that their main bust units (banelings) actually get lost no matter what. I dunno how this went in BW and i don't claim to be an expert in any means but zerg simply lacks utility.
I think that's why Zerg was given the fastest units with the most mobility (mutalisks, zerglings, overlord drop/ nydus options, etc.), to keep harrassing- especially with multi-pronged attacks, as Zerg isn't necessarily supposed to win in a straight up engagement (although some of their unit compositions aren't terrible, to be honest).
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On May 09 2012 23:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 23:20 Assirra wrote:On May 09 2012 23:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 09 2012 23:05 Assirra wrote:On May 09 2012 22:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 09 2012 22:11 iCastor wrote: I am a Protoss player and I do think Protoss is a little strong even though I have a lot of trouble with zerg... anyone watching the GSL code S??? 3 toss top 4 :D iirc, when it was DRG vs. Genius, the other two players in the top four were both Terrans  So it hardly matters. Terran and Protoss were pretty even throughout the GSL this season. It's really the Zergs we should be looking at- how poorly they're doing, despite Zerg supposedly doing just fine against Protoss and Terran. Zergs were doing bad previous season as well tbh. DRG was the only zerg in the round of 8. Right, I meant in general TLPD winrates. Why is there supposed balance across the board when Zerg has only one or two notorious top finishers each season? What isn't carrying over from ladder and other tournaments (because Zergs do just fine there) into the GSL? Probably the time to prepare. Zergs are the most vurnable to timing attacks since they don't have a "oh shit" solution to stop or at least delay an attack. If you got the wrong units out, you die. You have no forcefields, you cannot move your natural to your main. They also got the lovely design that their main bust units (banelings) actually get lost no matter what. I dunno how this went in BW and i don't claim to be an expert in any means but zerg simply lacks utility. I think that's why Zerg was given the fastest units with the most mobility (mutalisks, zerglings, overlord drop/ nydus options, etc.), to keep harrassing- especially with multi-pronged attacks, as Zerg isn't necessarily supposed to win in a straight up engagement (although some of their unit compositions aren't terrible, to be honest). Oh ofc some of the compositions aren't terrible, otherwise we would never seen a GSL win in the first place. about the mobility tough, stalkers and MMM are pretty dam fast as well, not as fast as lings muta's but they can do quite a bit more damage as well since they don't melt usually. Hell, maybe its the players and not the race. We constantly see new terran and new protoss coming up in code A/S except for zerg. It's about time to get a fresh batch of them, the last was DRG and how many months was that ago.
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I really dislike trying to get statements like this, as they just try to just get an "out-there" statement that can cause some controversy, and then people just run with it like shown here in this thread. I wish that people could just read stuff like this with a grain of salt. Most of the Koreans at HSC4 were basically just going "imba imba imba" at every possible thing when they commentated, and I think it just extends to something like this.
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On May 09 2012 23:28 Mirosuu wrote: I really dislike trying to get statements like this, as they just try to just get an "out-there" statement that can cause some controversy, and then people just run with it like shown here in this thread. I wish that people could just read stuff like this with a grain of salt. Most of the Koreans at HSC4 were basically just going "imba imba imba" at every possible thing when they commentated, and I think it just extends to something like this. the imba imba thing at HSC4 was just MC fooling around. Hell he called marine vs marine imba vs imba.
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BTW how come there is no Flash Fanclub thread yet??? I have tried looking for Flash Fanclub, KT_Flash Fanclub but had no luck in finding it
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
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The TL BW community has never really made fanclubs.
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On May 09 2012 23:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 23:20 Assirra wrote:On May 09 2012 23:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 09 2012 23:05 Assirra wrote:On May 09 2012 22:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 09 2012 22:11 iCastor wrote: I am a Protoss player and I do think Protoss is a little strong even though I have a lot of trouble with zerg... anyone watching the GSL code S??? 3 toss top 4 :D iirc, when it was DRG vs. Genius, the other two players in the top four were both Terrans  So it hardly matters. Terran and Protoss were pretty even throughout the GSL this season. It's really the Zergs we should be looking at- how poorly they're doing, despite Zerg supposedly doing just fine against Protoss and Terran. Zergs were doing bad previous season as well tbh. DRG was the only zerg in the round of 8. Right, I meant in general TLPD winrates. Why is there supposed balance across the board when Zerg has only one or two notorious top finishers each season? What isn't carrying over from ladder and other tournaments (because Zergs do just fine there) into the GSL? Probably the time to prepare. Zergs are the most vurnable to timing attacks since they don't have a "oh shit" solution to stop or at least delay an attack. If you got the wrong units out, you die. You have no forcefields, you cannot move your natural to your main. They also got the lovely design that their main bust units (banelings) actually get lost no matter what. I dunno how this went in BW and i don't claim to be an expert in any means but zerg simply lacks utility. I think that's why Zerg was given the fastest units with the most mobility (mutalisks, zerglings, overlord drop/ nydus options, etc.), to keep harrassing- especially with multi-pronged attacks, as Zerg isn't necessarily supposed to win in a straight up engagement (although some of their unit compositions aren't terrible, to be honest).
Really it's the creep. speeding up both your units and acting as a cloaked observer. It never feels like I can attack zerg if he has sufficient creep spread as I have to spend time going Alpha Centauri on the creep.
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On May 09 2012 23:50 Holgerius wrote: The TL BW community has never really made fanclubs.
I said that to echo 2pac's statement
On April 06 2012 04:57 2Pacalypse- wrote: In BW, when we want to make a fanclub about someone, we write a Final Edit about him.
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On May 09 2012 23:31 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 23:28 Mirosuu wrote: I really dislike trying to get statements like this, as they just try to just get an "out-there" statement that can cause some controversy, and then people just run with it like shown here in this thread. I wish that people could just read stuff like this with a grain of salt. Most of the Koreans at HSC4 were basically just going "imba imba imba" at every possible thing when they commentated, and I think it just extends to something like this. the imba imba thing at HSC4 was just MC fooling around. Hell he called marine vs marine imba vs imba.
Yeah, and as I said, it's usually done in the same manner as the stuff that happened at HSC4. It's just to grab some attention, not really for any substance and people shouldn't buy into it so much, but hell, because it's flash, it must be true. -rolls eyes-
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On May 09 2012 23:22 eery1 wrote: LOL. I'd still rather have Bisu as Toss than Flash
Flash wouldn't pick a race that would make him turtle up a max army while spamming turrets--err...cannons.
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I'm sure glad DRG isn't in that pile of corpses
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On May 10 2012 00:15 neoghaleon55 wrote:I'm sure glad DRG isn't in that pile of corpses Oh trust me, he is. He was one of the first slain, and is hidden somewhere in the bottom of the pile.
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On May 10 2012 00:25 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 00:15 neoghaleon55 wrote:I'm sure glad DRG isn't in that pile of corpses Oh trust me, he is. He was one of the first slain, and is hidden somewhere in the bottom of the pile. more importantly, who is the girl??? : D
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I'm looking forward to watching Flash's stream when he decides to open one. Preferablly one on Twitch.tv :D
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On May 10 2012 00:29 neozxa wrote: I'm looking forward to watching Flash's stream when he decides to open one. Preferablly one on Twitch.tv :D well have fun waiting. cause it will never happen.
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On May 10 2012 00:26 Disposition1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 00:25 Holgerius wrote:On May 10 2012 00:15 neoghaleon55 wrote:I'm sure glad DRG isn't in that pile of corpses Oh trust me, he is. He was one of the first slain, and is hidden somewhere in the bottom of the pile. more importantly, who is the girl??? : D She represents me.
And I doubt that Kespa will allow Flash to stream.
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On May 10 2012 01:15 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 00:26 Disposition1989 wrote:On May 10 2012 00:25 Holgerius wrote:On May 10 2012 00:15 neoghaleon55 wrote:I'm sure glad DRG isn't in that pile of corpses Oh trust me, he is. He was one of the first slain, and is hidden somewhere in the bottom of the pile. more importantly, who is the girl??? : D She represents me. And I doubt that Kespa will allow Flash to stream.
Why would they? Can they really dictate if one player can stream or not? :/
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