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On April 27 2012 23:57 Telcontar wrote:
I don't really envy his job. There's only so much you can do with a game that's being dragged down by fundamental design flaws. He doesn't address issues like lategame TvP because he doesn't have the power to do anything about it.
Haha, you guys always try to turn everything into a "why SC2 sucks generally" discussion.
Topic: Balance --> "Poor guy has to balance a game that is not BW"
Topic: Competition --> "People can't become good because the game sucks"
Topic: Fun --> "The game sucks, you can't have fun with it"
Topic: Sports --> "People prefer sports these days, because SC2 sucks"
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Topic: Killer Tomatoes take over world control --> "Can't get worse than SC2"
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On April 28 2012 00:05 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 23:57 Telcontar wrote:
I don't really envy his job. There's only so much you can do with a game that's being dragged down by fundamental design flaws. He doesn't address issues like lategame TvP because he doesn't have the power to do anything about it. Haha, you guys always try to turn everything into a "why SC2 sucks generally" discussion. Topic: Balance --> "Poor guy has to balance a game that is not BW" Topic: Competition --> "People can't become good because the game sucks" Topic: Fun --> "The game sucks, you can't have fun with it" Topic: Sports --> "People prefer sports these days, because SC2 sucks" ... Topic: Killer Tomatoes take over world control --> "Can't get worse than SC2"
Yet they never leave, they simply hang around telling us how what they're doing in their spare time is awful.
Must be a great life.
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On April 27 2012 23:56 Krymming wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 23:50 noidontthinkso wrote:On April 27 2012 23:47 Krymming wrote:
My theory on why they didn't talk about TvP is because there's no one even trying to figure out mech yet. Protoss has been fighitng MMM since beta and tried every tech path so they are ready for almost anything MMM has to offer, I'm curious what would happen if some gosu pro (unlike me) figure out mech and the impact on the matchup. u cant play mech vs protoss, was figured out 2 years ago lol The game has changed a lot in 2 years. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Jinro defeat MC with some meching 2 years ago?
the first game jinro destroyed mcs eco with hellion harrassment, and even with this mc almost broke through his bunkers and spread tanks, the second game mc made carriers against a thor viking marine comp i believe... these games were amazing, but more or less an exception to the rule i guess.
then...
well they nerfed blueflame (nescessary, won't argue about it)...
renerfed the thor when it showed promise...
siegetanks suck since their damage adjustment against protoss...
so no matter what was, mech got worse, in addition the zealotcharge was fixed and the immortal got buffed.
finally, IMMVP said mech does not work, and since i respect him the most out of all terrans, mech does not work as standard army comp with no specific timing in mind.
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when are terrans gonna learn to stop whining and simply just add siege tanks into their unit comps, last i checked those outranged storms too and do splash
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and guess what, siegetanks are bad vs zealots/archons/immortals/air
oh wait 3 out of 4 standart unit composition vs terran
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On April 28 2012 00:09 ParkwayDrive wrote:
when are terrans gonna learn to stop whining and simply just add siege tanks into their unit comps, last i checked those outranged storms too and do splash
And they also make your bioball die even harder to chargelots.
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On April 28 2012 00:09 ParkwayDrive wrote:
when are terrans gonna learn to stop whining and simply just add siege tanks into their unit comps, last i checked those outranged storms too and do splash
cant stop laughing
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On April 28 2012 00:16 noidontthinkso wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 00:09 ParkwayDrive wrote:
when are terrans gonna learn to stop whining and simply just add siege tanks into their unit comps, last i checked those outranged storms too and do splash cant stop laughing
Maybe he is impliing tone 
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I don't see how zerg needs better scouting, there is already very little protoss can do to stop zerg from scouting what they are doing. zerg just sac a ovie or two and they know exactly was toss is doing and how to counter it.
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Community: Zerg early game scouting is bad.
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2 years later
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Blizzard: We think Zerg has trouble with early game scouting.
That works with a million other things too.
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On April 28 2012 00:09 ParkwayDrive wrote:
when are terrans gonna learn to stop whining and simply just add siege tanks into their unit comps, last i checked those outranged storms too and do splash
when are terrans gonna learn to stop whining and simply just add ravens vs protoss. pdd is so good vs stalkers and it might even make the protoss waste energy for feedback instead of storming
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There has literally been 1 foreigner Terran victory in a YEAR. Thorzain is the single foreign Terran to win an international tourney. DH was a relatively weak player field as well, and TSL3, while a great tournament, we all know was somewhat of a farce do to huge lag hindrance for the Koreans. Where the fuck is the disconnect between Korean terrans and foreigner terrans? Also, lol at what Klive5ive said... so true. 2 years from now Blizz is going to release LAN like they just thought it became an issue.
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The race with the best scouting units is having a problem with early scouting. Well at least I had a good laugh.
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On April 27 2012 23:57 Telcontar wrote:
I don't really envy his job. There's only so much you can do with a game that's being dragged down by fundamental design flaws. He doesn't address issues like lategame TvP because he doesn't have the power to do anything about it.
I feel this is the case.
The numbers say "balance". If people want more fun, options, etc, they will have to buy the expansions. And Dustin Browder hates mech for some reason lol
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On April 28 2012 00:05 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 23:57 Telcontar wrote:
I don't really envy his job. There's only so much you can do with a game that's being dragged down by fundamental design flaws. He doesn't address issues like lategame TvP because he doesn't have the power to do anything about it. Haha, you guys always try to turn everything into a "why SC2 sucks generally" discussion. Topic: Balance --> "Poor guy has to balance a game that is not BW" Topic: Competition --> "People can't become good because the game sucks" Topic: Fun --> "The game sucks, you can't have fun with it" Topic: Sports --> "People prefer sports these days, because SC2 sucks" ... Topic: Killer Tomatoes take over world control --> "Can't get worse than SC2"
Actually I like killer tomatoes .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_of_the_Killer_Tomatoes
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On April 28 2012 00:27 SupLilSon wrote:
There has literally been 1 foreigner Terran victory in a YEAR. Thorzain is the single foreign Terran to win an international tourney. DH was a relatively weak player field as well, and TSL3, while a great tournament, we all know was somewhat of a farce do to huge lag hindrance for the Koreans. Where the fuck is the disconnect between Korean terrans and foreigner terrans? Also, lol at what Klive5ive said... so true. 2 years from now Blizz is going to release LAN like they just thought it became an issue.
If you count out thorzain the last non-korean T to win a big (lan) event was naama at DHW 2010. 
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On April 28 2012 00:28 Sapphire.lux wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 23:57 Telcontar wrote:
I don't really envy his job. There's only so much you can do with a game that's being dragged down by fundamental design flaws. He doesn't address issues like lategame TvP because he doesn't have the power to do anything about it. I feel this is the case. The numbers say "balance". If people want more fun, options, etc, they will have to buy the expansions. And Dustin Browder hates mech for some reason lol
OF COURSE the numbers say balance
why?
becuase the fucking MM system wants everyone to have 50% WINRATE
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Really didnt expect the new maps to be showing those sorts of percentages for some match ups, 70% PvT for cloud kingdom is quite extreme isnt it? I would really like to see the pro statistics for these maps too, but they've said they have reduced the effect of skill as a factor in calculating their balance so im really not sure.
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On April 28 2012 00:27 marcesr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 00:09 ParkwayDrive wrote:
when are terrans gonna learn to stop whining and simply just add siege tanks into their unit comps, last i checked those outranged storms too and do splash when are terrans gonna learn to stop whining and simply just add ravens vs protoss. pdd is so good vs stalkers and it might even make the protoss waste energy for feedback instead of storming
Troll or what? When are Protoss gonna learn to do simple arithmetic. Raven: 100 minerals/200 gas. HT: 50 minerals/150gas. HT can be warped derped in while Raven requires you to build them slowly 1 at a time. HT 1 shots Raven with feedback from greater range than any Raven spell. Why exactly are Terrans supposed to add Raven? No competent Protoss make more than a few stalkers in their late game comp. Please stop with gold league suggestions.
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On April 28 2012 00:32 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 00:27 marcesr wrote:On April 28 2012 00:09 ParkwayDrive wrote:
when are terrans gonna learn to stop whining and simply just add siege tanks into their unit comps, last i checked those outranged storms too and do splash when are terrans gonna learn to stop whining and simply just add ravens vs protoss. pdd is so good vs stalkers and it might even make the protoss waste energy for feedback instead of storming Troll or what? When are Protoss gonna learn to do simple arithmetic. Raven: 100 minerals/200 gas. HT: 50 minerals/150gas. HT can be warped derped in while Raven requires you to build them slowly 1 at a time. HT 1 shots Raven with feedback from greater range than any Raven spell. Why exactly are Terrans supposed to add Raven? No competent Protoss make more than a few stalkers in their late game comp. Please stop with gold league suggestions.
To be fair I think T's need to add ravens just to clear obs, otherwise you might as well give StarTale protoss players Maphacks. But ravens spells is utterly useless vs P sadly.
In fact Feedback rapes so much of Terrans T3 LoL.
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